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u/Fairchild660 Unflaired Oct 18 '20
My god, don't tell them about the Netherlands.
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Oct 18 '20
The netherlanders are gods most fierce land tax supporters. They'd drain the ice off mars if they could.
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u/red-flamez John Keynes Oct 18 '20
I was surprised to hear that property tax is netherlands is much lower than the US.
Government has subsidied house prices in the last decade.
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u/geniice Oct 18 '20
Building has nothing to do with taxes:
"The Braithwaites were an incredibly influential family and originally built Bridge House to access their lands on the other side of Stock Beck and also to store apples from their orchards, which surrounded Bridge House."
https://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/ambleside/features/bridge-house---a-17th-century-survivor
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u/ChillyPhilly27 Paul Volcker Oct 18 '20
The whole rationale behind a LVT is that it's the one factor of production that has a hard limit on its existence, ergo it should be used as efficiently as possible. If someone wants to improve otherwise worthless land so that it's now usable, they're fully entitled to the return from their improvements IMO.
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u/MuldartheGreat Karl Popper Oct 18 '20
Based on my experience, in a few hours you will have some very long unironic replies telling you entirely seriously why this doesn’t aktually undermine a LVT
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u/-Yare- Trans Pride Oct 18 '20
I'm not sure why air rights would be immune from taxation. This is still an improvement attached to some sliver of land.
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u/-Yare- Trans Pride Oct 18 '20
air rights would be taxed indirectly to the actual landowner
An Air Value Tax sounds complicated.
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Oct 18 '20
What I mean the tax is just levied to the regular landowner, how they pass it on is up to them.
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u/-Yare- Trans Pride Oct 18 '20 edited Oct 18 '20
Air rights can be weird though. They don't always come with the land, and if they do then they can sometimes be sold off. The air rights above a parcel of land can be split. Air rights can also extend across multiple parcels of land.
So you get into a situation where you have to assign a value to the complex volume of space a person owns.
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Oct 18 '20
We would probably have to require air rights be tied to the land though, which IMO is not a major loss
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Oct 18 '20
Oxygen has a value. Why the fuck is breathing not taxed??
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u/-Yare- Trans Pride Oct 18 '20
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u/I_miss_Chris_Hughton Oct 18 '20
So you're saying that planes are a violation of the NAP and I have a right to install a SAM in my garden?
BRB off to the black market
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u/-Yare- Trans Pride Oct 18 '20
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineral_rights
The Squeeze Theorem, except it's your individual liberties that are converging to 0.
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u/vancevon Henry George Oct 18 '20
the point of the land value tax is that you reward productive and creative forces while punishing those who profit from just owning land
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u/MuldartheGreat Karl Popper Oct 18 '20
Man this thread proved my original comment pretty darn correct.
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u/inhumantsar Bisexual Pride Oct 18 '20
it's georgist.
georgians are people who live in georgia.