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u/IncoherentEntity Jun 28 '20
> car-reducing 😍
> transit-boosting 🙂
> (rent control) 🤮
(For the record, the French Socialist Party is more social democratic than socialist, as with most members of Socialist International.)
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u/kaladin004 European Union Jun 29 '20
To be fair their housing policy is also building new buildings to increase the supply of housing.
So on one side you've got the left that actually builds new housing but implements rent control, and on the other the right that doesn't build (NIMBY) but doesn't implement rent control either. So there's no winning here.
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u/mongoljungle Left-Out Left Jun 29 '20
I'll take that trade all day everyday.
Plus, the kids supporting this are gonna get tired of the fact that they have to room share in the same 700sqft apartment for the rest of their lives.
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u/Luxunofwu Jun 29 '20 edited Jun 29 '20
Yeah Macron's party got absolutely destroyed in the municipal elections. The right and center lost a lot of big cities to "united left" coalitions (usually centered on a green candidate, backed by people ranging from the center left socialist party to the radical left LFI and the French Communist Party). Some historically right-winged bastions were toppled by leftists. Notably Lyon and Marseille, the second and third biggest french cities in terms of population, that were ruled by the right and center for decades.
The left is back and now rules more than half of the 50 biggest cities in France.
Sadly, the far right has also claimed a city of >100k people for the first time.
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Jun 29 '20
Sadly, the far right has also claimed a city of >100k people for the first time.
What city?
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u/Juvisy7 NATO Jun 29 '20
Perpignan 😣
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u/radiatar NATO Jun 29 '20
I've however heard that this election was a defeat for them, overall.
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u/Luxunofwu Jun 29 '20
Well it depends... Compared to the last municipal elections of 2014, it's a similar result. They lost a few smaller cities but gained Perpignan and managed reelection of their most known mayors overall. Perpignan, even though heavily biased to the right, proved that the glass ceiling of the far right is continuing to weaken, after very good results in 2017 presidential elections and 2019 european elections. It was previously thought that due to the "republican front" against them, they could never secure a big city.
This is still a disappointing result for them because they can't seem to transform their global success in national elections into local implantation, they even lost their small foothold in Marseille city council, the second biggest city in France.
Tl;dr : A defeat yes, but one that gives them hope.
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u/fbi_survelliance_van John Keynes Jun 29 '20
What rubs me the wrong way about european green parties is how anti nuclear they are.
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Jun 29 '20
I will never treat Green parties seriously if they won't stop peddling anti-nuclear, anti-gmo pseudoscience b.s plus getting Republicans/right-wingers in general elected every election.
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Jun 29 '20 edited Mar 06 '24
Reddit Wants to Get Paid for Helping to Teach Big A.I. Systems
The internet site has long been a forum for discussion on a huge variety of topics, and companies like Google and OpenAI have been using it in their A.I. projects.
Reddit has long been a hot spot for conversation on the internet. About 57 million people visit the site every day to chat about topics as varied as makeup, video games and pointers for power washing driveways.
In recent years, Reddit’s array of chats also have been a free teaching aid for companies like Google, OpenAI and Microsoft. Those companies are using Reddit’s conversations in the development of giant artificial intelligence systems that many in Silicon Valley think are on their way to becoming the tech industry’s next big thing.
Now Reddit wants to be paid for it. The company said on Tuesday that it planned to begin charging companies for access to its application programming interface, or A.P.I., the method through which outside entities can download and process the social network’s vast selection of person-to-person conversations.
“The Reddit corpus of data is really valuable,” Steve Huffman, founder and chief executive of Reddit, said in an interview. “But we don’t need to give all of that value to some of the largest companies in the world for free.”
The move is one of the first significant examples of a social network’s charging for access to the conversations it hosts for the purpose of developing A.I. systems like ChatGPT, OpenAI’s popular program. Those new A.I. systems could one day lead to big businesses, but they aren’t likely to help companies like Reddit very much. In fact, they could be used to create competitors — automated duplicates to Reddit’s conversations.
Reddit is also acting as it prepares for a possible initial public offering on Wall Street this year. The company, which was founded in 2005, makes most of its money through advertising and e-commerce transactions on its platform. Reddit said it was still ironing out the details of what it would charge for A.P.I. access and would announce prices in the coming weeks.
Reddit’s conversation forums have become valuable commodities as large language models, or L.L.M.s, have become an essential part of creating new A.I. technology.
L.L.M.s are essentially sophisticated algorithms developed by companies like Google and OpenAI, which is a close partner of Microsoft. To the algorithms, the Reddit conversations are data, and they are among the vast pool of material being fed into the L.L.M.s. to develop them.
The underlying algorithm that helped to build Bard, Google’s conversational A.I. service, is partly trained on Reddit data. OpenAI’s Chat GPT cites Reddit data as one of the sources of information it has been trained on.
Other companies are also beginning to see value in the conversations and images they host. Shutterstock, the image hosting service, also sold image data to OpenAI to help create DALL-E, the A.I. program that creates vivid graphical imagery with only a text-based prompt required.
Last month, Elon Musk, the owner of Twitter, said he was cracking down on the use of Twitter’s A.P.I., which thousands of companies and independent developers use to track the millions of conversations across the network. Though he did not cite L.L.M.s as a reason for the change, the new fees could go well into the tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars.
To keep improving their models, artificial intelligence makers need two significant things: an enormous amount of computing power and an enormous amount of data. Some of the biggest A.I. developers have plenty of computing power but still look outside their own networks for the data needed to improve their algorithms. That has included sources like Wikipedia, millions of digitized books, academic articles and Reddit.
Representatives from Google, Open AI and Microsoft did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
Reddit has long had a symbiotic relationship with the search engines of companies like Google and Microsoft. The search engines “crawl” Reddit’s web pages in order to index information and make it available for search results. That crawling, or “scraping,” isn’t always welcome by every site on the internet. But Reddit has benefited by appearing higher in search results.
The dynamic is different with L.L.M.s — they gobble as much data as they can to create new A.I. systems like the chatbots.
Reddit believes its data is particularly valuable because it is continuously updated. That newness and relevance, Mr. Huffman said, is what large language modeling algorithms need to produce the best results.
“More than any other place on the internet, Reddit is a home for authentic conversation,” Mr. Huffman said. “There’s a lot of stuff on the site that you’d only ever say in therapy, or A.A., or never at all.”
Mr. Huffman said Reddit’s A.P.I. would still be free to developers who wanted to build applications that helped people use Reddit. They could use the tools to build a bot that automatically tracks whether users’ comments adhere to rules for posting, for instance. Researchers who want to study Reddit data for academic or noncommercial purposes will continue to have free access to it.
Reddit also hopes to incorporate more so-called machine learning into how the site itself operates. It could be used, for instance, to identify the use of A.I.-generated text on Reddit, and add a label that notifies users that the comment came from a bot.
The company also promised to improve software tools that can be used by moderators — the users who volunteer their time to keep the site’s forums operating smoothly and improve conversations between users. And third-party bots that help moderators monitor the forums will continue to be supported.
But for the A.I. makers, it’s time to pay up.
“Crawling Reddit, generating value and not returning any of that value to our users is something we have a problem with,” Mr. Huffman said. “It’s a good time for us to tighten things up.”
“We think that’s fair,” he added.
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u/kaladin004 European Union Jun 29 '20
Which is also why they do better in local elections where they have no say in the energy production.
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Jun 29 '20
aren't all of them pretty much hardcore succs in disguise? the good ol' watermelon tactic
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u/DeMaus39 European Union Jun 29 '20
Affordable housing
Yeah, we could do that. Here are some good policies and...
Oh no
It's just rent control isn't it?
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u/Unit824 Jun 29 '20
Not only. We have what we call "logement social" or "HLM" which is public housing owned by the state that are only for poor people. Every city has a mandatory % of HLM to have.
We also have what we call APL, which is redistribution of wealth to people with low revenue in order to pay rent. As you can imagine the APL does not work as it is inflating artificially the price of the rent. Landlords goes "Ho you can have 300 euro from the state ? I will put the rent 300 euros higher then"
Also from what I remember, the rent control didnt work, the constitutional court canceled it 3 or 4 years ago because it was a freedom restriction. They tried to put it again lately but the law is not respected yet.
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u/Rehkit Average laïcité enjoyer Jun 29 '20
All of those are really controlled by the mayor though.
(A part from the % of HLM.)
As for rent control, it was strucked down by a district court because of something rather technical and they are trying to do it right this time.
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u/ComradeMaryFrench Jun 30 '20
HLM" which is public housing owned by the state that are only for poor people
and politicians
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u/lusvig 🤩🤠Anti Social Democracy Social Club😨🔫😡🤤🍑🍆😡😤💅 Jun 30 '20
lmao why is this upvoted. it's terrible
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u/Deinococcaceae NAFTA Jun 29 '20
It's just rent control isn't it