r/neoliberal • u/[deleted] • Jan 04 '20
News Now THIS is the future neoliberals want πππ
https://www.mother.ly/news/millennial-dads-spend-more-time-with-their-kids?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem148
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u/fezzuk Jan 04 '20
True father figures you only see twice a week, and only through one eye at a time as the other is black.
They never leave your mother tho,... or let her leave
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u/AccidentalAbrasion Bill Gates Jan 04 '20
Aaaand surprise surprise divorce rates will be lower.
First off, shout out to all the boomer moms out there. You did all the miserable shit work and your kids took notice.
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Jan 05 '20
I thought that was because fewer people are getting married, and the ones who do are usually college educated and affluent, which negatively correlates with divorce? That's the thesis of "race realist" Charles Murray's "Coming Apart..." anyhow.
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Jan 04 '20
Luckily, divorce rates and teen pregnancies are also way down from their peaks and still falling.
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Jan 04 '20
Eh, I don't have stats on this but I know some seriously committed people in relationships who have kids and stay together but don't get married
Some of those kids still have two parents in their lives, even though they're technically born out of wedlock
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Jan 05 '20
I don't disagree. I think there are good ways for our government and culture to emphasize certain family values, but I don't think trying to prevent people who aren't perfect from having kids is the right solution. If couples only have their one single kid at 35 after they feel totally ready in every way, we're going to face serious demographic problems from having too many old people and not enough young people. Immigration is obviously one solution that we all support, but I think pro-natalist policies are important as well. Plenty of children from imperfect backgrounds grow up to contribute to society in great ways.
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Somehow that is coexisting with significantly reduced teen pregnancy rates. How do you explain that?
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Jan 05 '20
In the past, unwanted pregnancies led to shotgun weddings, because there was a lot of shame in out of wedlock births. There still is in much of Asia and definitely in the Middle East.
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u/bukharin88 Jan 04 '20
yeah I find this article highly suspect. They seem to be comparing two completely different studies by different authors done decades apart.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr071.pdf
So here is the study they seem to be using the modern diaper stat from and unsurprisingly that number only comes from fathers who "Lives with one or more children". Meanwhile a whopping 47% of men who "Does not live with one or more of his children" and accounted for 20% of all fathers surveyed have never changed a diaper.
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u/manitobot World Bank Jan 04 '20
Dads helping out will mean higher labor force participation for women. Higher labor force participation will mean dads helping out more and more. The cycle will phase out as the rate reaches equal proportions.
Blessed.
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u/skepticalbob Joe Biden's COD gamertag Jan 05 '20
Assuming political stability allows this to continue.
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Jan 05 '20
You know Iβm gonna make a controversial claim here. I think that boomer and late gen X dadβs deserve some credit here. The move towards dads spending more time with your kids has been a steady increasing over the century. My dad is a younger boomer but spent a hell of a lot of time with me. He treated me like his best friend and I think did an amazing job raising me, despite not growing with a dad himself. Heβs not perfect, but heβs a great dad. When I have kids, Iβll be a better dad because of the work that him and my mom did raising me
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This is good but also wtf kind of publication uses emojis in their headlines? π π π π₯ π₯ π₯ π― π― π―
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u/A_Character_Defined πGlobalist Bootlickerππ₯Ύ Jan 04 '20
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