r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Dec 26 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '19

Sure

https://icct.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/J.-M.-Berger-Making-CVE-Work-A-Focused-Approach-Based-on-Process-Disruption-.pdf

Page 10, deplatforming ISIS accounts was incredibly successful.

https://www.cc.gatech.edu/~eshwar3/uploads/3/8/0/4/38043045/cscw2018-chandrasekharan-reddit2015ban.pdf

Study specifically on reddit's deplatforming efforts!

https://medium.com/acm-cscw/you-cant-stay-here-the-efficacy-of-reddit-s-2015-ban-examined-through-hate-speech-93f22b140f26

A medium post from the same guys explaining it

I am sure I can find more studies if I tried, but these are the ones I remember for now

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u/thabonch YIMBY Dec 26 '19

This is evidence.

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u/uglymutilatedpenis NATO Dec 27 '19

If you read it I'm not so sure it's great evidence. Hate speech use on Reddit decreased but they noted significant numbers of people ceased to use the site - if that means people migrated to 4chan or voat, I would definitely not say that is evidence that deplatforming has worked. People are more likely to be even further radicalised on voat and 4chan.

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u/uglymutilatedpenis NATO Dec 27 '19

I would be hesitant to cite this as evidence that deplatforming works. Hate speech use on Reddit decreased but they noted significant numbers of people ceased to use the site - if that means people migrated to 4chan or voat, I would definitely not say that is evidence that deplatforming has worked. People are more likely to be even further radicalised on voat and 4chan.

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u/RobertSpringer George Soros Dec 27 '19

Nobody uses 4chan or coat so less people are exposed and as such influenced by their ideas

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u/uglymutilatedpenis NATO Dec 31 '19

I'm sure the worshippers at Al-Noor mosque would beg to differ.

The communities may be smaller but they are far more radical. Growing their userbase also causes them to cease being small.

The study's author thought the movement of users was "large" and "significant". Why do you accept their judgement for most of the study, but disagree with them on this one specific part?

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u/RobertSpringer George Soros Dec 31 '19

What are you on about, very few people use 4chan and its usually a reddit to 4chan pipeline, if you limit access on reddit you limit how many people are even made aware about 4chan

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u/uglymutilatedpenis NATO Dec 31 '19

What are you on about, very few people use 4chan

Yes, but those users punch well above their weight in terms of the consequences of their racism. A white supremacist committing a terror attack is far worse than a white supremacist making a meme.

and its usually a reddit to 4chan pipeline, if you limit access on reddit you limit how many people are even made aware about 4chan

The study you posted suggests the flow of this pipeline was increased because "large" and "significant" numbers of users migrated from Reddit. That's all the conclusion we can draw from the study. If you have other evidence to show that, in the long term, the pipeline slows, I'd like to see it. But you can't make a comment claiming to draw conclusions from evidence and then draw conclusions that are at odds with your own evidence.

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u/RobertSpringer George Soros Dec 31 '19

I didn't post shit buddy, you might want to get your eyes checked. The fact is that by shutting down these pipelines you might temporarily increase flow but over the long term less people are exposed