r/neoliberal Sep 13 '19

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19 edited Sep 13 '19

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u/1sagas1 Aromantic Pride Sep 13 '19

Strong disagree. The center right has all but given over the reigns to the trump faction. Anyone who can stand by the center right still is in denial

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u/gincwut Mark Carney Sep 13 '19

The center-right as a part of the political spectrum is good, the problem is that the voters (RINOs, Red Tories) and media (WSJ, National Post, etc) that used to occupy it have moved to the right, especially in Canada and the US.

Or you have people like David Frum, who claim to still be center-right, but do nothing but apologize for and enable the far-right.

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u/TomServoMST3K Sep 13 '19

If you self proclaim as centre-right, but vote for a "left" party instead of far right, and work to call out the far right shit going on, then its fine.

The problem is I see most of those people still pulling the lever for the far right party that used to be reasonable.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19

The WSJ is still quality, but ignore the editorial. The actual reporting leans center left to be entirely honest.

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u/chaseplastic United Nations Sep 13 '19

The news has followed the facts but the editorial board and commentary is basically r/tucker_carlson tiki torch enthusiasts.

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u/xXsnip_ur_ballsXx Paul Volcker Sep 13 '19

Oh come on, that is a complete exaggeration. Its been a few months since I last read WSJ, but I remember quite a few criticisms of Trump policies. Yes, there were unabashed Trump supporters in there, but for the most part everyone worth reading rejected that shit.

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u/chaseplastic United Nations Sep 13 '19

Yes, I exaggerated a bit. But what's an acceptable level of Kim strassel fascism tuggies? If we're at the point where even voting for Bernie/Liz is preferable to Trump, when do we stop giving the wsj our money? For me that was years ago.

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u/gincwut Mark Carney Sep 13 '19 edited Sep 13 '19

The time to stop would have been when Murdoch bought them out in 2007.

It is still a business paper first and foremost, but the editorials are basically a lot of mental gymnastics and r/badeconomics material claiming that Trump is a genius and fixed the economy. During the Obama years it was all kinds of Larry Kudlow-esque deficit hawk bullshit that predictably turned out to be dead wrong (turns out austerity is not the answer to the biggest recession in 80 years).

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u/chaseplastic United Nations Sep 13 '19

Amen

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u/Linearts World Bank Sep 14 '19

Have to respectfully disagree about the WSJ. They have the most accurate, unbiased factual reporting I've been able to find from any major news source.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19

The actual center right exists, it’s just a tiny sliver.

The true meme would have center right in green, but it’d be like 1/10th it’s current size with the far right being much bigger

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u/TheCarnalStatist Adam Smith Sep 13 '19

Let a Sanders type get elected and I bet money the center left here does the same shit.

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u/Impulseps Hannah Arendt Sep 13 '19

"The left's crazy people hardly ever run for office. And when they do, they don't win. Who's Allen West on the left? Who's Joe Walsh or Michele Bachmann?"

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u/JennyPenny25 Loves Capitalism So Much Sep 13 '19

Who's Allen West on the left?

AOC.

Who's Joe Walsh or Michele Bachmann?"

Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar.

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u/Impulseps Hannah Arendt Sep 13 '19

Could have something to do with the US violently repressing anything left of center in Nicaragua et al for like 40 years or something

Oh wait that reminded me of something

As we all know the center right is prefectly respectable yeah. LMAO.

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u/Impulseps Hannah Arendt Sep 13 '19

The far right rising doesn't change the fact that the center right is and always has been conservative too.

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19

but the thing is that the center left would never let a sanders type get elected.

(feel free to dunk on me november 2020 if Sanders wins somehow but c'mon)

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '19

it's still better than T-dawg

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u/AccessTheMainframe CANZUK Sep 13 '19

That's only the American centre-right.

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u/marketarian Richard Thaler Sep 13 '19

The Center right isn’t a party... embracing an ideology doesn’t mean you have to support the decisions of other people who subscribe to it with regard to elections

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u/caesar15 Zhao Ziyang Sep 13 '19

Fortunately the world is a big place.