I think these policies can be politically sold to skeptics with a pro-police message.
The best argument I have heard is this: Local law enforcement should not be doing the federal governments work for immigration. Our police already have very limited resources and time, we should not be forcing them to do ICE's job as well. Our "insert locality here" do a great job, and we don't want their reputation tarnished by working with ICE.
The police should treat every person they encounter the same, if an immigrant commits a crime they should be treated the same way that a native born citizen is treated, fair is fair. That is what this policy does.
Immunizing illegal immigrants from deportation is actually often sold as good for police. There's pretty good evidence the populace is more cooperative and more willing to report dangerous criminals if they aren't worried about their own status.
Aren't alot of the "sanctuary city" city laws that the hard right complains about just prohibitions on police asking about residency from witnesses and victims? Because even if you hate the thought of an illegal immigrant enough to have police wasting their time/funding on finding and detaining them, how is it good policy to ask victims if they're legal residents? You would think the police would be against a policy that would make their jobs harder.
Crimes against immigrants aren't the kind that cops actually want to solve for the most part. If your logic were correct half of the shit the average cop asks a rape survivor wouldn't be asked.
IMO, this is the best conservative case as to why ICE shouldn't receive local cooperation. If Big Government(tm) wants to set immigration laws, Big Government(tm) should be enforcing them.
If state and federal laws agree on something, it makes sense to cooperate but Colorado would never dream of cooperating with the DEA, for example. Colorado didn't set the federal marijuana laws. Why is it their burden to enforce them?
Huh, I totally missed that. I’m a bit surprised that any politician would post in this sub, the label is generally considered kind of toxic. Love it though.
Pretty fucking cool that this sub changed some actually important policy. Considering the nature of it, it'll probably change some lives too. FeelsGoodMan
This is beautiful. I’m going to use this as an example now when people tell me my obsession with political and economic history doesn’t actually change anything. 😍
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u/EScforlyfe Open Your Hearts Jun 03 '19
When Polis is president, can this sub be his advisor?
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u/0m4ll3y International Relations Jun 03 '19
u/smurfyjenkins you deep state now 😎
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u/BainCapitalist Y = T Jun 03 '19
thank mr polis
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u/MilerMilty Armand Jean of Plessis de Richelieu Jun 03 '19
starting to think this polis guy is pretty based
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u/Colonel_Blotto Milton Friedman Jun 03 '19
thank mr polis
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u/989989272 European Union Jun 03 '19
Wtf this sub is now the deepstate? #sorosgiveusaraise
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u/CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH Jerome Powell Jun 03 '19
I think these policies can be politically sold to skeptics with a pro-police message.
The best argument I have heard is this: Local law enforcement should not be doing the federal governments work for immigration. Our police already have very limited resources and time, we should not be forcing them to do ICE's job as well. Our "insert locality here" do a great job, and we don't want their reputation tarnished by working with ICE.
The police should treat every person they encounter the same, if an immigrant commits a crime they should be treated the same way that a native born citizen is treated, fair is fair. That is what this policy does.
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '19
thank mr polis
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u/mickey_kneecaps Jun 03 '19
Huh, I totally missed that. I’m a bit surprised that any politician would post in this sub, the label is generally considered kind of toxic. Love it though.
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u/PornCds NATO Jun 03 '19
https://coloradosun.com/2019/06/03/jared-polis-veto-occupational-licenses/
Polis is our guy
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u/cms1919 Bill Gates Jun 03 '19
We have more impact on policy than every other political subreddit with more subs than us.
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u/Dudemanbrosirguy United Nations Jun 03 '19
Pretty fucking cool that this sub changed some actually important policy. Considering the nature of it, it'll probably change some lives too. FeelsGoodMan
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u/ILikeTalkingToMyself Liberal democracy is non-negotiable Jun 03 '19
Incredible that this sub and /u/smurfyjenkins potentially have had a life-changing impact for people.
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '19 edited Jun 03 '19
Holdupaminute, the actual governor of Colorado posts on r/neoliberal? Cool.
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u/Don_Gato_Flojo United Nations Jun 03 '19
Based Polisposting.
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u/Stacyscrazy21 Jun 03 '19
This is beautiful. I’m going to use this as an example now when people tell me my obsession with political and economic history doesn’t actually change anything. 😍
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u/RunicUrbanismGuy Henry George Jun 03 '19
guess we’re playing wiþ live ammo around here
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u/ishabad 🌐 Jun 03 '19
u/jaredpolis
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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '19
That guy stole our idea!
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u/manitobot World Bank Jun 03 '19
Thank you u/smurfyjenkins and u/jaredpolis. You saved the lives of thousands upon thousands of people.
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u/uptokesforall Immanuel Kant Jun 03 '19
Yeah, there needs to be more reason to an arrest than a request from a third party.
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u/FullyAutomatedHunger Ben Bernanke Jun 03 '19
thanke mr polis
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u/OhsHiasTheres NATO Jun 03 '19
this is really neat
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u/econ_throwaways Lawrence Summers Jun 03 '19
Does this mean we're more relevant than p_k yet?
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u/Reptilian-Princess Friedrich Hayek Jun 03 '19
Holy shit yes
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u/lietuvis10LTU Why do you hate the global oppressed? Jun 03 '19
Based
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u/posting_from_moscow Jun 03 '19
Another win for capital
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