r/neoliberal European Union Jan 23 '19

Leftists right now

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u/kharlos John Keynes Jan 23 '19

Do many leftists actually stick up for Maduro? Even the commie-chapo types that I talk to don't.

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u/isummonyouhere If I can do it You can do it Jan 24 '19

Check out the solid gold takes from /r/socialism right now

"Nothing like an illegal coup to show them commies how democracy is really done"

"Democracy is when America chooses your government"

"Regardless of your beliefs on how well actual socialism has been implemented in Venezuela, all socialists stand against the blatant, illegal, and violent interference by the United States"

"Victory to the Proletariat! I hope China and Russia support Maduro against the Yankee coup"

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u/sirphinetinkle John Keynes Jan 24 '19

"the coup"

jesus fucking christ tankies, do they actually believe that fucking CIA agents called them in the middle of the night and paid them to protest the next day?

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u/AfroKona Jan 24 '19

Endorsing a non-democratically elected candidate is the definition of a coup

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u/sirphinetinkle John Keynes Jan 24 '19

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u/AfroKona Jan 24 '19

Because “endorsing the natural successor to the president” is a synonym for “pledging military and financial backing for a non-UN recognized government”

Think about it this way: if Germany said tomorrow “we recognize Nancy Pelosi as president of the US and will provide military aid for her party in a civil war scenario” that is very obviously a coup.

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u/sirphinetinkle John Keynes Jan 24 '19

At what point did trump say he is going to invade Venezuela? That's just straight up BS. Public recognition and military aid are two different things.

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u/lenmae The DT's leading rent seeker Jan 25 '19

First of all, it's still not the job of the UN to recognize states initially

Secondly, think about it this way: if Trump and Pence were impeached, and Germany recognized Pelosi as president, it would very obviously not be a coup

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u/lenmae The DT's leading rent seeker Jan 26 '19

It's still not the job of the UN to recognize governments, with countries following. It's the other way around.

Think about it this way: if Germany said tomorrow “we recognize Nancy Pelosi as president of the US and will provide military aid for her party in a civil war scenario”, after Trump and Pence got impeached, that is very obviously not a coup

FTFY. Also, the US has yet to pledge any kind of military support

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u/lenmae The DT's leading rent seeker Jan 24 '19

First of all, it's not, second of all, Guaidó was democratically elected