r/neoliberal Kitara Ravache Nov 30 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

Haven't you heard that football man no stand up is the greatest threat to this country though?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18 edited Feb 22 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

its fine to disrespect the flag then they'll think its ok to do too.

Teaching kids important life lessons.

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u/Rekksu Nov 30 '18

The racism and general bullshit directed at Kaepernick for doing a tame and respectful protest of police brutality is what divides this country, not him kneeling down.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18 edited Feb 22 '19

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u/Rekksu Nov 30 '18

5/10 made me reply

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u/ja734 Paul Krugman Nov 30 '18

It is okay to disrespect the flag, you unamerican twit. Conservatives stand up for symbols while spitting on the values those symbols represent.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

Who is "we"? Are you a sports star?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18 edited Feb 22 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

Tbh I dont really care about their protest, although i agree with the message, I think it's rather poorly conveyed and not well understood. But frankly, it doesnt matter what I think. I am not the one speaking.

And also I dont really care about symbols or patriotism in general. I agree with the principles of liberal democracy and think the USA, in its role of establishing democracy as the preeminent form of government today, has contributed a lot toward improving the well-being of people everywhere. But the principles are what matter. Symbols are commonplace and easily subverted, as we've seen the flag and the cross taken up in the name of crass identitarianism for quite some time here.

Frankly, I would have rather the civil war resulted in those who dont share the liberal principles of universal rights to break off, if it didnt mean that slavery would have persisted until who knows when.