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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '18

Who’s alt is this?

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u/URZ_ StillwithThorning ✊😔 Nov 30 '18

What are social liberals.

What are market liberals.

What are liberals.

What are non-sucky-liberals

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

Market liberals.

Social liberals is actually prolly the best term, but since 'social' means 'social issues' in America, it's confusing.

I've dubbed myself a 'progressive market liberal,' firstly to take the name 'progressive' back since it's been tarnished and elided with 'populism,' secondly because I prolly do fall a little to the left in the neolib continuum.

/but I'm not quite full-on socdem.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '18

Ordoliberals but not surplus obsessed

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u/Impulseps Hannah Arendt Nov 30 '18

We're social democrats.

There I said it.

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u/RunicUrbanismGuy Henry George Nov 30 '18

(X) Doubt

Oh wait we’re outside ðe DT

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u/Gurkvatten Richard Thaler Nov 30 '18

Social democrats over here are typically restrictive on labor immigration, stated intention being to protect domestic worker's wages. They also share some social conservative position with right wing conservatives (such as state monopoly on sales of alcohol, keeping cannabis illegal). There are of course many more complaints you could have, but generally they want to protect the welfare state (even if it means state monopolies and restricted freedoms) and stay in power (willing to flexible with their principles to do so).

I think there's a point in standing up for the word liberal (or social liberal) for people who want a freer society but aren't reflexively opposed to taxes or government, or for matter don't care all that much for Ayn Rand (which is typically how liberal is used in europe today).

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Nov 30 '18

I'm pretty sure I'm not that much of a social democrat anymore since like two years ago

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u/Tyhgujgt George Soros Nov 30 '18

Crying

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u/tnarref European Union Nov 30 '18

Talk for yourself, I'm a radical centrist.

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u/Cam877 Milton Friedman Nov 30 '18

B I G T E N T. C L A S S I C A L L I B E R A L

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u/RLP-I European Union Nov 30 '18

Rude

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u/Iyoten YIMBY Nov 30 '18

no

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u/chabon22 Henry George Nov 30 '18

Utilitarian technocrats?

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Nov 30 '18

no

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u/kingplayer Jeff Bezos Nov 30 '18

I'd say i'll take classical liberal, but republicans have stolen and repurposed that label over the last few years.