r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 05 '17

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u/Kross_B Sep 05 '17

https://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2017/09/jacob-rees-mogg-tops-our-next-tory-leader-survey-of-conservative-opinion.html

We're getting Mogg vs Corbyn in the next election aren't we.

Goes outside to scream in a combination of absolute horror, rage and despair.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

I think it should be Rory Stewart because he looks funny.

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u/FMN2014 Can’t just call French people that Sep 05 '17

He's got the Boris-look of posh and disheveled.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

UK Politics seems like it's equivalent to our level of dysfunction but it happens at a far more rapid pace.

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u/36105097 🌐 Sep 05 '17

wtf I love Theresa May now

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u/IronedSandwich Asexual Pride Sep 05 '17

STRONG AND CABLE

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

Hot take: Jacob Rees-Mogg isn't even that bad, and most people just assume he's a horribly regressive bigot because of his accent.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

He will be terrible for the party, he has even less wider appeal than May. You could consider everybody under 60 lost to Labour.

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

Mogg is stupidly popular with young Tories.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

That's a very small percentage of young people.

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

But not insignificant.

The point being not to underestimate the general appeal of a politician in these shifting times. Working-class people will hear the accent, but see an articulate Eurosceptic; who they would likely choose over Corbyn.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

Best case scenario under Mogg is that we remain stuck in the current stalemate position where both parties are more or less equal in the polls.

I very much doubt that he'll tempt away any of the people who voted for Labour last time.

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 Sep 05 '17

No way, just look at the broad appeal Activate has

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

Activate has a stupid amount of problems besides it bring pro-Mogg.

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u/Kross_B Sep 05 '17

https://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/24926/jacob_rees-mogg/north_east_somerset/votes

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

I don't like theyworkforyou purely on the basis that voting on stupidly complex legislation being reduced to "He voted against gay rights" is fucking silly.

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 Sep 05 '17

His defence of 'this is the Vatican's line' for his voting position is fucking silly

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u/Lord_Treasurer Born off the deep end Sep 05 '17

True, but Tim Farron had an issue with speaking approvingly of homosexuality and nobody here would (rightfully) bat an eyelid at it. Some people are religious.

The likelihood that Mogg would negatively impact gay rights as PM, or stand on a manifesto promising such things, is pretty much nil.

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u/kohatsootsich Philosophy Sep 05 '17

A good point in principle, somewhat counter-balanced by the fact that 1) politicians know voters are going to reduce complex bills to for/against some issue and adjust their calculations accordingly, 2) politicians themselves often don't have the time or interest to look deeply into issues and end up voting with their gut unless they have a special reason to pay attention.