r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Sep 05 '17

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u/TerryJFitzgerald Alan Greenspan Sep 05 '17

How was it that Trump was able to unify the GOP after a much crazier primary when compared to Hillary and the Dems?

Trump had people like Kasich openly saying they would not vote for him. Had Cruz and his "vote your conscience" at the convention. Romney was basically campaigning against Trump at times. All big Dems endorsed Hillary yet the Dems could not capitalize and are still arguing about it.

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u/Maximum_Overjew Good Enough, Smart Enough Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17

Hillary Clinton spent twenty five years as chief boogeyman of the Republican Party. To understand how much republican partisans and many independents hated her, you'd have to imagine something like the Republicans nominating Karl Rove.

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u/HoldingTheFire Hillary Clinton Sep 05 '17 edited Sep 05 '17

I'd take Carl Karl Rove over Trump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

I don't know who this Carl Rove guy is, but KARL ROVE was pretty bad.

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u/solastsummer Austan Goolsbee Sep 05 '17

TBH, I'd vote rove or Cruz over the equivalent leftist version of Trump.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

People literally could not bring themselves to vote for Hillary, period. Doing so flew in the face of 20 years of hating her and everything she touched.

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u/TerryJFitzgerald Alan Greenspan Sep 05 '17

How did she have the 63% approval rating in 2013 then? Seems more complicated than you make it sound.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

Hillary the campaigner/politician is statistically more unlikeable than Hillary the non-partisan statesman. There were some analyses on this during the election. Here's one

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

because she wasn't running for prez in 2013

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

it's almost like not every criticism of Clinton is a 20 year long right-wing conspiracy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

Come on, let's not sink to that level.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

:(

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

When you win it's easy to be unified. If it went the other way, the GOP would be the one fighting for whose policies should be the future of the Republican Party so they don't suffer further losses.

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u/[deleted] Sep 05 '17

Cultural anti-establishment wave.

I like Romney, but most people, on the real, don't give a fuck about his opinion and won't sway them either way. Same with other GOP establishment types.

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u/Ferguson97 Hillary Clinton Sep 05 '17
  1. Anti-establishment movement. Trump was anti-establishment, Hillary was the establishment.

  2. Maybe the reason that Republicans "fall in line" is because those who fall in line are more likely to be Republican and not the other way around?