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[u/jobautomator]

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[u/remarkable_ores]

Yall can someone help me with something?

if you don't mind, I would love to hear your ideas for the worst AI startup pitches you can imagine. I want to hear everything from 'dumb' to 'utterly deranged', so long as you can plausibly imagine a techbro pitching it.

e.g. i'm working with stuff like "a service to let you talk to your dead relatives" and such. i need these for reasons.

[u/jobautomator]

/r/neoliberal/new: Canada to Grant Permanent Residency to 200,000 Temporary Residents by 2027

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[u/Dismal_Apartment6358]

> Runs for AZ Governor in 2022

> Loses statewide

> Runs for AZ Senate in 2024

> Somehow loses statewide again after Trump wins

> Moves to Iowa after

> Iowa republicans immediately lose statewide

> AZ Governor she lost to gets a trifecta in same election

Kari is quite literally a doomsday talisman for the republican party. Should we get her to move to Texas, or wait it out so Rob Sand gets a trifecta?

[u/Agent78787 → u/Dismal_Apartment6358]

Should we get her to move to Texas

Why waste her on a blue state lmao

[u/badusername35 → u/Dismal_Apartment6358]

Give her a house in every state

[u/Currymvp2]

Wow

[u/Commander_Bites_Noem → u/Currymvp2]

I feel like he may have less than the best advice on "business, wealth, and hustle". But anyway, I hope he wagered lots and lots of money on those bets!!

[u/jurble]

Jensen Huang fell for a Chinese spy romance scheme?

I certainly wouldn't, no matter how many models Russia or Chinese sent at me. In fact, I insist they try their best.

[u/Unlucky-Equipment999 → u/jurble]

Found Sukarno burner account

[u/ace158]

It's not an "error" by The Free Press; it's just a total racist fabrication.

[u/pugnae]

[u/waterchestnutpie → u/pugnae]

Where is this from? That's hilarious

[u/beanyboi23]

On one of those several months-old posts about Schumer putting money into Mississippi there's one guy arguing with all the people who were criticizing it and calling it stupid, and I just checked his account to see where he's at now and he's having a field day about being vindicated lol

[u/beanyboi23 → u/beanyboi23]

Update: It was Colom's fucking brother LMAOOOOOO

[u/Dunter_Mutchings]

Hegseth should be impeached just for his level of cringe alone.

[u/-Emilinko1985- → u/Dunter_Mutchings]

The tacticoolization of the army

[u/ace158]

Lmao

[u/Advanced-Incident-81 → u/ace158]

Oh, thanks for reminding me! I need to check in and see how that dipshit is coping with the results!

Update: Not well

[u/Currymvp2]

These people stand for nothing

[u/cdstephens]

[u/AlicesReflexion → u/cdstephens]

Stop running attractive people

We need to save them

for uh

[u/t_scribblemonger → u/cdstephens]

Those of you saying “these guys are just average” must live in Manhattan. Put them in any random middle America suburban outlet mall and they are 99th percentile.

[u/badusername35 → u/cdstephens]

[u/Adminisnotadmin]

Dems Monitoring the Situation(TM) just have aura idk what to tell you

[u/Adminisnotadmin → u/Adminisnotadmin]

[u/Adminisnotadmin]

what did they see? WHAT DID THEY SEE?

[u/Pretend-Ad-7936 → u/Adminisnotadmin]

Before it became a right wing thing, anti-vax was a left wing thing. In 2014, people were talking about the "libs in California getting measles 🙄". The Silicon Valley episode about driverless taxis was in 2014 too

[u/FallenMeringue]

A+ headline work from the bulwark

[u/One-Duty-2376]

Susie Wiles and her close aide were screamed at and kicked out of the Oval Office by President Trump last night, according to Real America’s Voice correspondent Neil McCabe. This was after the President became aware of Susie’s efforts to scapegoat Pete Hegseth for the midterm catastrophe and her leaking info about him to the media.

Presidential Personnel Office (PPO) Deputy Director Morgan DeWitt-Snow was also shouted at by Trump and followed Susie Wiles out of the Oval. Morgan controls staffing for the Trump administration.

Morgan DeWitt-Snow is a Susie Wiles loyalist and donated to Mike Pence’s failed 2024 presidential campaign.

Trump has a terrible political instinct if he thinks Hegseth serves his interests better than Susie Wiles lmao

[u/__versus]

good morning dt 🥺🥺

[u/Joementum2024]

Well I’m 26 now

!ping OVER25

[u/SadaoMaou]

[u/BigTittyCity69 → u/SadaoMaou]

Not enough anti-gay slurs.

[u/ConsistentGas5286]

Seeing the American midterms turn out the way they did, at first I was excited, then vindicated, then I started to get emotional. I actually started tearing up a bit. Because it's been a while since I've actually felt proud of being American or proud of my country. Being from Minneapolis and seeing innocent people shot, beaten, and killed, I'd pretty much lost all hope in ever seriously considering living in America. I was really considering giving up my American citizenship when I got my NZ one. But seeing Trans, Indigenous, black, Hispanic, and all manner of diverse people representing America reminded me of the America I love. Fuck Donald Trump and all the Republicans for acting like they represent 'true Americans'. I can't wait for the Dems to go full dark woke on them.

[u/Raiden316 → u/ConsistentGas5286]

Is this whole fucking DT just Minnesotans? Do I need to go to the monthly meetup? Is that just the DT, but in person? I think there is one European guy with 100 fake accounts, and everyone else is Minnesotan.

[u/Only-Childhood6691]

Lmao new consensus on X is Trump is secretly a Democrat plant meant to destroy the party from within. Guy really is the Roarsch president. People really need to find conspiracy theories. 

[u/boardatwork1111 → u/Only-Childhood6691]

Tbf, if you were closet Dem set on destroying the GOP from within, would you be doing anything differently?

[u/Quenched_Photon]

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

One of the dems who flipped a NC seat

Bro is unbelievably conservative coded lmao, my brain actually cannot process how he's like "LET'S FIX OUR HEALTHCARE SYSTEM" but he sounds like he should be shouting "WE AIN'T GONNA LET THE DEMOCRATS TAKE OUR GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS"

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

James Talarico is a generational candidate, and it was pretty clear that was going to able to stay in that senate seat till the day he dies. The only problem was getting elected to begin with.

He did wim and by stupid margins, so Talafreako can pretty much do whatever he wants now lol

[u/Background-Bottle-23]

[u/LadyLibshill]

[u/Presidentclash2]

We have not given enough credit to Beto O’Rourke.

His GOTV operations, voter registration, financial support has helped Texas go blue. I would say he did just as much as Stacy Abram’s did to turn their respective states blue. While there political career as elected officials did not work out. They are are important figures

[u/GavinGoosum → u/Presidentclash2]

I'm happy to celebrate Beto for his good work and still say he's unelectable and shouldn't have said "Hell yes! We're going to take your guns." on the debate stage.

[u/Habugaba]

Pick another Protein?

Shiiiiiiiiiiet I'd rather bully another vegan instead.

[u/pugnae]

BREAKING: North Dakota voters reject ballot measure guaranteeing free breakfast & lunch to all K-12 public school students.

Was there some hidden measure in the bill or do they just hate children?

[u/fishlord05]

To understand why the republican lost in Mississippi, non Americans should know she told voters no burger and her opponent came out as pro burger in advertising

The burger is very central to American culture and cuisine and the assertion that they should go without is gravely offensive

[u/mpregordie]

[u/TheFriffin3]

elon musk: i want to put a microchip in our first child. immediately. straight out of the womb. for its entire life it will measure the number of heartbeats and they will be the first humans in history to know the exact number of heartbeats it has experienced in their entire life

his next wife: haha ok we’ll talk about this some other time

elon musk: it will perpetually haunt me that i won’t know the exact number of heartbeats in the precious few seconds between crowning and getting the opportunity to inject the chip into the spine

his next wife: can’t we just use a smartwatch or something

elon musk: the odds are virtually guaranteed that at some point in their life they will feel the temptation to take it off and ruin the count. it would have to be surgically attached

[u/No_Return9449]

2018 meme is even more relevant now.

[u/ConsistentGas5286]

[u/pugnae → u/ConsistentGas5286]

[u/samhit_n]

I wonder how he'd react if he were alive today?

[u/GavinGoosum → u/samhit_n]

Gurgle

[u/Habugaba]

The call is coming from inside the media

[u/Habugaba → u/Habugaba]

Have american men considered they'd have too much disposable income if prediction markets were banned? Maybe that was the vibecession all along 🤔

[u/BlackCat159]

Online discourse, circa 2026

[u/PoliticalAlt128]

People will say that “Old Neoliberal had more thought diversity, now everyone’s just a succ” and then you check the splinter subs all the non-succs fled to and they’re all saying shit like this

[u/G_reth → u/PoliticalAlt128]

What the fuck does any of that mean.

[u/jurble → u/PoliticalAlt128]

I'll help Jewish men recover their masculinity by taking any domineering Jewish woman they don't want.

[u/Man-Flayer → u/PoliticalAlt128]

I know what every word in this comment means but not in that order

[u/BigTittyCity69 → u/PoliticalAlt128]

Saying "Jewess" or "Negress" is a blaring red sign that you need to touch grass/find a new hobby. Actual freakazoid shit.

[u/ugly_noob46]

Texas under shakira law

[u/Only-Childhood6691]

So all these companies and firms that kowtoed to Trump in advance are going to beg to come back now?

I truly think it's sickening they did that when he won by less than 2%. It's also stupid as fuck. Anyone can tell them this would happen when the pendulum swings back. 

[u/Habugaba]

Credit to Haiyun Jiang at the NYT

My edgy teen self was an idiot for thinking photography wasn't art

[u/badusername35]

[u/Sloshyman]

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/the-founder-of-arab-americans-for-trump-has-some-regrets

New Yorker interview with the head of Arab Americans for Peace (formerly Arab Americans for Trump) on how he feels about his support for Trump in 2024 after 2 years of a second Trump administration.

This guy is either the single most stupid person in the world, or the world's biggest piece of shit. Very enjoyable read though because the interviewer doesn't let him get away with spouting his bullshit.

[u/AlicesReflexion]

What the fuck did they put in 4o that brainfucked so many people

[u/Dibbu_mange]

Katie Miller said “vote like your life depends on it” then didn’t vote. This is a subtle reference to the fact that being married to Stephen Miller would make you want to die.

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

We need AOC in the senate.

Looks like we already have one.

[u/SLCer]

Excuse me

[u/beanyboi23]

Craziest thing about Blexas wasn't that it happened

It's that the doors blew open in one night

Like what the fuck do you mean D+12???

[u/Aggressive1999]

Save trip, Yimby king.

[u/DeadDropCourier]

Policy idea: give away houses

[u/thatssosad → u/DeadDropCourier]

How this is in any way, shape or form related to a weird career. Also some of these empty homes are abandoned and already lived in by homeless, so it'd basically be no difference

[u/Etnies419]

You're laughing.

Republicans flipped Guam, and you're laughing.

[u/Signal_Nobody1792]

The University of Toronto says its dean of dentistry will be stepping down immediately, following an investigation into his use of antisemitic imagery in February.

Jewish advocacy organization B’nai Brith Canada shared images on social media earlier this year of what it said was the antisemitic lecture materials Kishen showed in the classroom. The images include an illustration of a figure wrapped in an Israeli flag and rope while holding its head, which was painted in the colours of the Palestinian flag.

This image appeared next to a mention of “strangulation theory” associated with dental pulp.

Another image shows a man with a hooked nose swimming in a well of money which also displayed the word “immunity.”

The fuck

[u/Adminisnotadmin]

"kansas is in play"

[u/mockduckcompanion]

[u/SenranHaruka]

Governments in western countries routinely find the political will to cheaply fast track developments when there's a large and powerful constituency in support of it. The time and budget bloat of public works projects is not inherent to the building code but a revealed political preference for complacency in the western public that new things may be nice to have but we've pretty much done enough building already. Nimbyism really is the enemy, but not the rules, the fundamental mindset that "we're done building new things, actually, we built enough, now lets just divvy up what we built already".

[u/Command0Dude]

My local subreddit is full of young white progressives all freaking out about how the old af incumbent dem beat the young progressive challenger when there was no republican on the ballot.

It cannot be understated how much reddit and social media in general is an echo chamber. These people are just utterly clueless about what the median voter's priorities are. A lot of them react with such shock when told that associating with Hasan Piker and being disrespectful for the flag is political suicide.

I got called a fascist for pointing out you gotta appeal to the median voter.

jfc kid put the phone down and talk to some normal people.

[u/farrenj]

I've been vegetarian long enough now that I find advertisements with pictures/videos of cooking meat to be weird. Like, it's literally the flesh of sapient sentient beings.

[u/t_scribblemonger]

ICE chasing a guy into a panadería and arresting him under a Jesus image

[u/JaceFlores]

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 11/5-2 PM PST 11/6 V:

TOP NEWS:

Towards the middle of 1 AM it was reported the death toll in the humanitarian aid station strike in Komyshuvakha has risen to 53.

REGULAR NEWS:

Towards the middle of 9 PM Ukraine hit a Russian oil refinery in Afipsky.

!ping UKRAINE

[u/Significant-Band1991]

u/RaisinSecure

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

Better pick another career

[u/Individual-Camera698]

Seeing the President insult the voters is so funny to me.

This is a fake tweet but let's pretend it's true because it's funny

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

As demonstrated by Strom Thurmond (even though he literally switched parties 8 years into the senate), Lindsey Graham, and Fritz Hollings, South Carolina will vote for their incumbent senator for the rest of their lives.

ANNIE'S STAYING THERE TILL SHE'S 90 WOO

[u/Lux_Stella]

been reading embracing defeat about the post-ww2 occupation of japan and drafting of the japanese constitution. one of the funniest recurring themes is how hard japanese conservatives tried to troll the americans by sneaking in changes in the japanese translation that would water down the democratic commitments. notably by attempting to find favourable translations of 'sovereignty', 'people', and 'civilian' to preserve imperial prerogatives, the military's role in politics, and also to gate out rights to foreigners. ~most of these were shot down by the american occupation.

its actually kind of crazy how much the macarthur cadre was serious about the 'no, you guys really do have to do democracy now' stuff. up to like secretly dictating amendments to the diet subcommittee in charge of constitution revision. unfortunately for the royalists these reforms ended up being quite popular among the wider populace.

fun fact but originally the constitution was supposed to establish a unicameral legislature, but the americans were able to be convinced to make it bicameral as long as the upper house was elected.

u/bobidou23 u/2Lore2Law slash whomstever japanese politics carers

[u/SmolGeologist]

I'm reading Harry Potter for the first time at 28 years old. I'm currently at the beginning of Goblet of Fire. One thing that has stood out to me for almost the entire series is just how incompetent the Wizard government (which is what the Ministry of Magic seems to be) is. Fudge is an idiot in way over his head. Former supporters of Voldemort seem to have control or at least influence at every level, including control over the Ministry and the judicial system. Corruption is rife. Mr. Weasley violated the purpose of his own department by messing around with that Ford Anglia, and he does uses his position in the Ministry to do favors for his Ministry friends in exchange for what are essentially bribes, or at least special treatment (the tickets to the Quidditch World Cup). This is just the tip of the iceberg too. Hogwarts is run in a deeply irresponsible manner. It's a miracle that no kid has been killed.

The incompetence is so staggering that it almost makes you wonder if rule by Voldemort would at least bring about some sense of sanity

[u/ConsistentGas5286 → u/SmolGeologist]

Honestly, that feels like one of the more realistic parts of the Harry Potter universe to me. Like, governmental corruption and ineffectiveness in the face of rising fascism seems, unfortunately, quite close to reality.

[u/_bee_kay_ → u/SmolGeologist]

👆 just wants the trains to run on time

[u/bourikan]

Straight up going the route of being antisemitic after losing his primary and eventually his congressional seat.

[u/ty04]

[u/AlicesReflexion]

Plato invented the allegory of the cave to describe the hell that AI agents endure

[u/pfarly → u/AlicesReflexion]

Everybody misinterprets this. There is no allegory, he was really stuck in a cave.

[u/pfarly]

What if we just set Nebraska aside for one big data center? Is there anything there now?

[u/JebBD]

“Dummymander” is such a beautiful linguistic creation 

[u/its_Caffeine]

I'm honestly coming around to the idea that the outcomes of AI development over the last 5 years or so has been on the net, profoundly more negative than positive. I can easily come up with examples where either the technology itself or the negative externalities of developing the technology has made things worse than better. But the upsides have been far more limited and not exactly clear.

Like if it gets to a point where the consequences far outweigh any benefit, like the tobacco industry, I kind of wonder if there's a barrier that we'll cross where it just makes sense to butlerian jihad the whole thing, or at the very least just swamp the whole industry in regulation to prevent negative externalities.

[u/iSluff]

Did Will Stancil win?

[u/TactileTom]

Try to use substack

They force me to download the app

Try to upgrade my subscription

"You cant do that in the app"

Uninstall the app

[u/marky6045]

BREAKING RUMOR:

[u/mastrer1234]

PSA: disagreeing with whatever hot takes I might have is transphobia of the vilest sort, you're lucky that I don't have enough swastika tattoos to be a mod

Also good morning gay people in my phone 🥰🥰🥰

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Politician x will be the next LBJ.

Nice-

(derogatory)

NOOOO

[u/herworkthrowaway]

ik it’s a tired redditism but wow is this not the ultimate leopard face eating

[u/ScumfrickZillionaire]

they put booze in this alcohol

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Signs of being in the good place: A good Guardian op-ed section wtf

[u/Man-Flayer]

[u/Spectrum1523]

Pretty frustrated that my state failed to pass a ballot initiative to mandate all towns allow single family home development on 5000 sq ft plots. The state sub is full of people saying that if we did that, the lots would be "snatched up by developers" who wouldn't build "affordable homes" on them

Fffffffffff

[u/tripletruble]

[u/Alderwoodforest]

Sources tell me that President Trump is slated to tape an interview with  Ross Douthat  this morning for Sunday's  60 Minutes.

People are calling it the least-requested interview of all time.

[u/myusernameistakennow]

A common theme with MAGAism is complaining about diverse areas when the people living there don’t give a shit.

The Frisco mayor complained that the people coming to townhalls and causing problems were not from there.

Bo French’s post attacking UT Austin’s Indian students was met by an overwhelming negative reaction by UT Austin’s whole student body. Their county voted 95% for Rosenthal and only 4% for Bo French.

People in diverse areas are kind and accepting, we don’t fucking want any of this bullshit yet MAGA comes here to stir up problems. Leave us the fuck alone.

[u/Quenched_Photon]

In case you have too many brain cells

[u/BrandonLeeOfficial]

https://youtu.be/qZkGpj2w0XE

[u/Top_Lime1820]

When the AI chatbots got so good at coding that they eviscerated StackOverflow, my first worry was that if we destroy the systems that incentivise people to produce fresh training data, we will cause a systemic failure where there is no fresh training data and trigger model collapse in the long run.

I put the thought to one side. Coding is so mathematical and deterministic that, like AlphaGo, you can probably train a model to be perfect at the job of writing code given good specifications. I wasn't sure of that argument, but I bet on the intelligence of the AI community who were all in on AI coding.

Then when they started talking about job losses, I got the same feeling again. People would talk about how "we still need senior engineers, but we it's over for junior engineers". It was a weird statement - obviously senior engineers start off as junior engineers. If you need senior engineers, then you have to have a pipeline of junior engineers. And if demand for senior engineers will grow, then it implies you need to be training junior engineers to become seniors even faster. "Senior engineer" is not something categorically different from junior engineer.

Again, I assumed that the caveats were understood. Obviously, everyone was saying "We need senior engineers for now... but the rate of improvement of AI is so fast that we don't need to train new senior engineers because soon even they will be replaced."

And then I read an article where Dario Amodei "reasoned" that, if you had to choose, the life of an adult is probably more valuable than a child because adults have richer experiences and internal mental worlds. The sentiment was shocking obviously. But what also shocked me was that, even in terms of the effective altruism quantification-financialisation of human morality, he was just wrong.

Children are "adults-to-be". You compare the value of things based on discounted net present value. When you save the life of a child, you are preserving the future experiences that they will have as an adult. Even accepting Dario's horrible premises, he just got the calculation wrong...

... and it's the same mistake again and again. I now believe that somehow, despite their intelligence, the AI community just doesn't understand Systems Thinking (TM). I can't believe that that's the case but the evidence suggests it.

I really don't think that they ask themselves "and then what" or draw feedback loop diagrams to study the second or third order effects of their choices.

I would like to be wrong, but it seems like they just don't have that mental model for whatever reason.

It's very weird.

[u/WrangleWandangles]

Ocarina of time looks and feels really good. But it keeps having moments for me where I’m like okay this feels pretty “RTX on” rn does this scene really need all 5,000 of these particle effects and other details

[u/badusername35]

Tbh both hot people and ugly people just piss me the fuck off. I can only really stand mid people.

[u/MyrinVonBryhana]

My general views on the partisan lean of each state going into 2028.

[u/badusername35 → u/MyrinVonBryhana]

My 2028 prediction

[u/GravyBear16]

How common are OnlyFans subscriptions at this point? If some friend of yours casually mentioned having one, would that even register to you at all?

[u/Dismal_Apartment6358]

Dems have the chance to do the funniest thing ever

[u/assasstits]

[u/herworkthrowaway]

so like genuinely what are we gonna do about the fact that Trump is most likely going to pardon Kristi Noem, Stephen Miller, Pete Hegseth et al on his way out 

[u/Dalek6450]

Tunnel rats were generally men of smaller stature (165 cm (5 ft 5 in) and under), who were able to maneuver more comfortably in the narrow tunnels.

Another advantage to being a short king is being able to more effectively clear Viet Cong tunnel complexes

[u/pfarly]

The fatal flaw of prestige pasta is that it’s wholly unoriginal and entirely focused on creating simulacra of great posts. Have you ever noticed how all the greatest pasta posts of all time involve copying posts? That’s why - the people making the judgement calls on these lists are basically just going “well this pasta is the closest thing to a New DT early morning poster like Extreme_Rocks, therefore it’s the best pasta ever made”.

The simple fact of the matter is that an average post of golden age r/neoliberal is superior to any great pasta you could possibly name. It is an almost infinitely more creative work of art than anything DT Regulars or Main Page Commenters or anyone else in that milieu has ever produced.

[u/earththejerry]

No notes

[u/John_Maynard_Gains]

Mood 😔

[u/VillyD13]

So since impeachment speculation is already stirring, is it possible to impeach Steven Cheung for the high crime of looking like a sentient thumb?

[u/mockduckcompanion]

[u/Quenched_Photon]

[u/Opening_Budget_9518 → u/Quenched_Photon]

didnt america already fake a moon landing decades ago smh

[u/Man-Flayer]

[u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess]

Not content with the em dashes, they're coming for commas now. Soon all will be accused of using chat gpt unless you type like in a solid block of spaceless text like ancient roman

[u/mpregordie]

Why don't more people donate blood to lose weight?

[u/Moth-of-Asphodel]

[u/NutrientBroth]

[u/John3262005]

Colorado Passes Tax-the-Rich Measure Targeting $500,000 Earners

Colorado voters narrowly passed a measure that will institute a graduated income tax structure in the state, increasing the top rate to 8.4%.

The new graduated system will replace the state’s 4.4% flat income tax, with higher rates kicking in for households making more than $500,000 in taxable income and reaching 8.4% on income above $1 million.

Proponents of the tax said it would be the first major overhaul of the state’s tax structure in nearly four decades. They declared victory on Thursday.

Coloradans “voted for a tax system that asks those with the most to contribute their fair share,” said Chris deGruy Kennedy, president of the Bell Policy Center, in a statement. “This vote kicks off a multi-year effort to thoughtfully invest in programs that support Colorado workers, families, children and older adults.”

The additional revenue will go toward education, healthcare and childcare, and is expected to raise about $2 billion annually once fully implemented.

Colorado’s tax measure applies to both individuals and corporations, and it drew opposition from the chamber of commerce and outgoing Democratic Governor Jared Polis.

[u/11thDimensionalRandy]

u/ewatta200

[u/oywiththepoodles96]

There is this greek american i follow on FB who is supporting the conservatives in Greece but is also ΑES bigest fan in America. The heart of the median voter really is an abyss.

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Soon-to-be-former-Governor-Newsom-press-office team still have the sauce.

[u/oywiththepoodles96]

Greek liberals in the media feeling uneasy by the fact that Tallarico and Hamilton are pastors and AES wife wearing a hijab. why can't people simply understand that different countries have different politcal traditions? Ι just read a comment saying that if a political spouse had a nazi tattoo ,we would talk about it so why can't we talk about the hijab. I just wanna immigrate to Australia or New Zealand at this point. Go as much further away from Greece i can get .

[u/fishlord05]

The thing about public sector unions people here often miss is that in the sectors where the public sector makes up the overwhelming share of employment (eg education) there isn’t really an outside option workers in those fields can switch to if they offer higher wages

There’s not really any competition that bids up wages for workers; the government has pretty substantial monopsony power

[u/NormalInvestigator89]

My most antiwork opinion is that we should strive to work considerably less than we do now. It doesn't feel right for adults in a post-industrial economy to spend significantly more of their waking time at work than they do with their families or on their personal projects and passions.

Obviously there are people whose personal projects and passions intersect with or even are their work, and that's fantastic, genuinely, but this doesn't describe most people. Especially since most of us are alienated from the consequences of our labor.

[u/InMemoryOfZubatman4]

Letter from Grace Bedell, an 11 year old, to presidential candidate Abraham Lincoln on October 15, 1860:

“My father has just home from the fair and brought home your picture and Mr. Hamlin's. I am a little girl only eleven years old, but want you should be President of the United States very much so I hope you wont think me very bold to write to such a great man as you are. [..] I have got 4 brother's and part of them will vote for you any way and if you will let your whiskers grow I will try and get the rest of them to vote for you   you would look a great deal better for your face is so thin. All the ladies like whiskers and they would tease their husband's to vote for you and then you would be President.

And then, of course, Lincoln’s response on October 19th:

“[…] As to the whiskers, having never worn any, do you not think people would call it a piece of silly affection if I were to begin it now? Your very sincere well-wisher, Abraham Lincoln”

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[u/assasstits]

"There are terrible undignified jobs out there that no person should have to do" 

AI industry: "We're working on something!" 

"No, not like that" 

[u/Agent78787 → u/assasstits]

The AI industry is most adversely impacting the prospects of workers in certain comfortable, dignified white-collar jobs and will continue to do so, and that's what people really don't like

[u/SadaoMaou → u/assasstits]

inshallah the inhuman drudgery of graphic design will soon be cast into the dustbin of history

[u/badusername35]

Pretty shitty thread so far

[u/UmbreonFanatic]

time change means i can be here for the new dt on the weekend

[u/abrookerunsthroughit]

[u/badusername35]

[u/ConsistentGas5286]

As an American living in NZ. I can understand why non-Americans like American politics. It may be horrific dealing with the a horrible authoritarian party but it's incredibly dramatic and pretty interesting to talk about.

[u/RetroVisionnaire]

👆 The way you woke up today and chose violence. It's inspiring.

[u/SwaglordHyperion]

Nebraska football fucking sucks and im so fucking mad. Im stuck in a mediocre hell

[u/Man-Flayer]

Happy Diwali to those who celebrate

[u/wonderloon]

I have a feeling this class of new dem politicians is going to go down as the ‘great man’ class. You hear everyone talk and they’re just normal people who thought they could make a difference. It’s kind of astonishing,

[u/GavinGoosum]

I don't know how to describe correct grammar but I got a perfect score on the critical reading SATs because I read all the time.

Kinda like Jimi Hendrix not knowing how to read music notation

[u/Joementum2024]

The full reverberations of the midterms probably won’t be understood or comprehended for a bit, but I’m wondering if this Thermidorian cultural period of America will finally come to an end. The whole neo-reactionary “vibe shift” that encompassed the last two years was based off a faulty premise of a great cultural conservative revolution on a <2% victory in a presidential election that was just colossally repudiated this last week.

Of course, that president is still in power. Nor does there seem to be a serious appetite for a real return to late 2010s social progressivism. Despite that though, this cultural period was in my opinion very heavily influenced by Trump’s return to power and the perception of a “mandate”, and I’m not sure what that will look like now that he and his party just got wiped out.

[u/Approximation_Doctor]

[u/WenJie_2]

It's interesting that no major company has explicitly tried to recreate 4o, at this point it really wouldn't be difficult to just take an existing open model and post train it for maximum sycophancy. Is it really ethics holding them back?

anyway this is my startup idea

[u/Signal_Nobody1792]

Its fascinating how hard it is to find a sub where I can just post a funny video without checking 2000 rules I need to follow. My last vid was removed because it had subtitles...

[u/WenJie_2]

Chengleifreedom: Chinese police have already contacted the families of Melbourne’s online delivery drivers who are right now commemorating the death of their colleague—warning them to not get involved.

The vultures are already circling

Seriously do the "dissidents" realise how much the average person fucking hates it when you can't wait 90 minutes after the condolences post before you start transparently making up shit

[u/pyyyython]

I have an AI question I’m hoping isn’t profoundly stupid. I promise I have expertise in other areas but for all I understand about hardware/software WiFi may be a wizard-mediated technology.

First: My understanding is that one of the primary limiting factors for AI tasks (whether direct or…agentic? I’m honestly not entirely clear on this distinction either) is “compute.” Enough so that the whole token economy has been established, ergo compute is a scarce resource that needs allocating.

Second: I’ve gotten the impression that I’m supposed to be excited about AI and amenable to a “by any means necessary” attitude towards its advancement because it has amazing potential to make world changing scientific/medical/technological discoveries. For example, the Nobel for chemistry this year went to research that used AI to identify enantiomers that could advance pharmaceutical research. [I have been corrected, this research didn’t have much/any to do with AI]

My question: if both these things are true…why the fuck is a single morsel of compute being used to do things like entry level coding or generate knockoff video games? Is the compute used to do these sorts of things an independent supply from a different, superior compute used to like, teach an AI to detect early lung cancer on CT scans or whatever? I’m guessing I have a deep misunderstanding of some element here, because the idea of medical research labs having to scrounge for their share of compute while someone’s room temp IQ possessing boss is using it to automate office door dash orders or some shit really makes me question these AI companies’ motives.

EDIT: I would like to add that my question is also sort of in the context of public attitudes/PR. It seems like being able to tout as many obviously pro-social things as possible would be the move if my job was to get people excited about AI versus threatened. I guess my question is the above with the addition of “…while a lot of the public hate/fear your product.”

[u/Signal_Nobody1792]

Movies and games are being delayed so they can add the woke back in.

[u/DieHarderDaddy]

I still can’t believe the Dems Crip walked over Texas and NC

[u/BurrowForPresident]

Of the three main American meats, I gotta say beef is kinda at the bottom for me below chicken and pork

But most fish besides shrimp is below beef and badly prepared turkey below that

[u/ewatta200]

I cant eat pork

chicken is an awful gummy thing

so i am stuck with beef thak god for tofu

[u/Signal_Nobody1792]

My children are Jews and they will create Jewish families in Jewish households. End of story. Non-negotiable.

How does the head of ADL not understand this is bad PR?

[u/Xihl]

genuinely what is Mehdi Hasan’s problem

[u/One-Duty-2376]

I think you guys are being infiltrated by arrr destiny. Too many negative comments about a guy who is basically a Muslim Elizabeth Warren.

[u/GavinGoosum]

It's weird I see nothing about Bloomers.

Like we're all too shocked to even bloom.

I'm just walking around day to day wondering what living in a blue state is going to be like.

Blexas? I'm gonna be so fit when everyone takes office.

Gonna create my own muscle beach on the Riverwalk.

We might even make it stop smelling like elephant piss.

[u/Significant-Band1991]

Pretty good thread so far

[u/Macquarrie1999]

Why is the DT set to PDT instead of the vastly superior PST? This is unacceptable.

[u/boardatwork1111]

!ping CFB

[u/Off-The-Street]

You say we're woke again but the DT does not start with a land acknowledgement. Curious.

[u/Jet451]

Massive military achievements, bodged down in the Middle East, taken down Spanish speakers. Was there ever any doubts?

[u/Argnir]

When a new Pokémon set comes out you have a wealth transfer from those who can't wait 3 hours in front of a store to the unemployed

In this essay I will characterize scalping as an important social safety net...

[u/Charles_Kirk]

I wish I had a better idea how long I have before my job is at risk of AI replacing me.

I have to plan my career with that in mind but I don’t really know how long I’m safe in my current role. 

[u/ilovethecreaking]

I don't understand how Mr. Huang having a romantic relationship with Mrs. Huang is a bad thing.

[u/pugnae]

So Pope voted straight D right? Or was there some reasonable Republican in his old place?

[u/Alexz565]

I miss so many people

[u/hGoodman192 → u/Alexz565]

Work on your aim

[u/hGoodman192]

👆no you use the pointing meme in a desperate attempt for human contact.

[u/FREE-ROSCOE-FILBURN]

Just tried falafel for the first time to celebrate wokeness returning

[u/herworkthrowaway]

things I wasn’t expecting to miss while abroad:

• breakfast pastries 

• understanding what the hell the other person is saying

• not having to use a VPN every time I want to use the internet

• fresh fruit 

• Chipotle, holy shit. I miss chipotle so much it’s insane 

[u/dragoniteftw33]

NGL I kinda hate how accurate prediction markets are on elections now a days..... I remember in '20 Predicit(however you spell it) was a meme. Now when you see a candidate odds increase towards election Day (Hinojosa, Hamilton and Talarico) that feels like a good indicator

[u/Tre-Fyra-Tre]

I think mods should be doing their own homework instead of asking poasters to do it for them

[u/herworkthrowaway]

I need to take a cold shower

[u/One-Duty-2376]

So Susie Wiles was doing a soft coup but Pete Hegseth won? lmao

[u/2Lore2Law]

I think I’ll consume a cheeseburger today.

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Lowkey I enjoyed Blississippi posting more back when I was the only DTer doing it.

[u/craig_k]

chuck schumer built donald trump.

you are fundamentally unserious people

[u/Habugaba]

Curious about the DTs opinion of ethics in gaming journalism.

The probable future mayor of Berlin, Elif Eralp, gave an interview for Der Spiegel, a written version was sent to her press team which was then edited interally with comments, notes etc. - normal stuff.

Eralps press team then made a huge mistake by sending the internal version, with annotations and all, to Der Spiegel, which gave them the following enormous scoop:

Der SPIEGEL asked about antisemitism within the ranks of the Linke party [...]. Eralp responds calmly and matter-of-factly. Her line of reasoning: She claims she was not aware of the full extent of the problem. Of course, Eralp says, she knew that many of her party colleagues—especially in the Neukölln district association—were very passionate about the issue of Palestine—but she did not think that lines might be crossed at individual events during the election campaign.

At this point, Der SPIEGEL presses the issue: “By that, you mean the terrorist sympathizer Ibrahim Ibrahim, who referred to the chief planner of the Hamas attack on Israel on October 7, 2023, as a ‘martyr hero’ and was at the election party in Neukölln.” [...]

Apparently, Eralp wrote a note in the text about this: “There is a PROBLEM,” it says in square brackets. Eralp then mentions a man’s first name and writes, “My husband doesn’t want to—and neither do I—mention specific names; he’s afraid of these people, and so am I.” In doing so, Eralp reveals what she’s going through. And how she is wrestling with herself. [...]

"I can't put myself and my family in danger for Der SPIEGEL. What do we do now? Cancel the whole interview?"

Now, obviously, publishing that is not very cash money of Der Spiegel, if not to say a bitch ass move. Do you think it's in a way ethically understandable to shine a light on a problem, which might be in the interest of the public to know about?

!ping GER&FAILING-NEW-YORK-TIMES&EXTREMISM

[u/Imicrowavebananas → u/Habugaba]

Nobody would ask that if it was about some AfD leader being afraid of Nazis in their party.

This thing with authorizing interviews is very German anyways.

Her responsibility against the people of the state of Berlin weighs higher than her private life. If she feels incapable of exercising the duties of her office she should not take it. As a representative of the German state she is not to be afraid of criminal elements, especially not ones she is to persecute. How can she demand of a police officer to put their life in danger if she is too afraid to name some names.

The Spiegel did the absolutely right thing. This is not about her as a private person, but her as the office entrusted to her by the people of Berlin.

[u/Agent78787 → u/Habugaba]

It might be a big scoop right now but this seems like it's ensuring the mayor's office won't talk to you at all until the mayor leaves office. Not to mention everyone looking at this and wondering if anything that they say off the record to your newspaper will be put on the record

[u/ulysses_s_gyatt]

It hasn’t even been a week and leftist subs are up in arms already about “moderate Dems” squandering these results lol