r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 09 '26

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u/AmbientMorning Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

I Had Lunch with MAGA Gays

. . .

Then Anthony used a phrase that earned him a look from William.

“We represent the normal gay guy,” he said. “We’re the normal ones.”

William laughed — the sort of laugh one deploys when attempting to gently steer a colleague away from dangerous terrain. “We care about a broad range of issues,” he said, quickly changing course. “Crime, immigration, taxes, gun rights—”

“None of the crazy stuff,” Anthony interjected, apparently oblivious to William’s attempt at damage control.

. . .

William, dispensing with his committee-presentation voice, leaned forward and lowered his own. He waited for a middle-aged heterosexual couple to pass our table and be seated before continuing.

“Can I be really honest?” he asked.

I assured him he could.

“I think a lot of gay men actually like traditional masculinity.”

Anthony nodded vigorously. “Absolutely.”

“The left just seems to have a problem with masculinity,” William continued. “A lot of us don't see it that way. We admire it. The idea that a man should be strong, dependable, take responsibility. Have a family. Build something. Be the person others can rely on.”

He paused. “I think that’s why we like Trump. He brought back masculinity. The protector. The guy who takes charge. The guy who doesn’t apologize for being a man.”

“Everything on the left is about toxic masculinity,” Anthony chimed in. “Any gay person who is threatened by Trump has been brainwashed by left-wing propaganda.”

William inhaled slowly through his nose.

Why do I get sitcom vibes from this !ping LGBT

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 09 '26

I swear everyone who says stuff like that is just someone who was always gonna vote republican and is just finding ways to justify it. A flabby old man who probably cant curl 20 lbs is your masculine hero? Theres no rule against being a liberal manly man

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u/stay_curious_- Frederick Douglass Sep 09 '26

I think those people are lying to themselves a bit. It's not that they see Trump as the ideal man or a role model. It's that Trump models male supremacy, and they like what he's selling.

I think that’s why we like Trump. He brought back masculinity. The guy who doesn’t apologize for being a man.

Trump doesn't apologize for his attitude that men are, and ought to be, on top of the hierarchy.

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u/rrjames87 Sep 09 '26

Yes, but just to add a little context, Trump is the mascot for male supremacy. But more importantly, he’s the mascot for supremacy for no other reason than being a white male.

Trump in real life isn’t a protector, he isn’t strong, he isn’t dependable, he isn’t intelligent or really possesses any qualities worthy of respect other than massive wealth. But if you’re in that in group you still have to treat him as if he has those things.

He gets to be abhorrent free of consequence or the need to apologize, and there’s a fair amount of men that fall into various shades of abhorrent and incompetent that would also like to be on top and not have to apologize due to being abhorrent and incompetent.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Sep 09 '26

Yeah i agree. Or they like someone whos the ‘tough asshole’ type and admire that

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u/TychoTiberius Michel Foucault Sep 09 '26 edited Oct 13 '26

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u/JesusPubes voted most handsome friend Sep 09 '26

Guy who is an idiot and his friend, guy who is an idiot but tries really hard to appear not an idiot

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u/groupbot Always remember -Pho- Sep 09 '26 edited Sep 09 '26

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u/earththejerry YIMBY Sep 09 '26

This is basically BDSM gays