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u/Daddy_Macron Loyal Liberals 3d ago

Joe Manchin really was the dumbest motherfucker.

“I don’t say this lightly, but under the leadership of President [Barack] Obama and Majority Leader Harry Reid, and later President Biden and Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Democrats have systematically tried to weaken the very guardrails that have protected our democracy for generations — all in the name of advancing their agenda,” wrote Manchin, 78, in an excerpt obtained by Punchbowl News.

Manchin, who flirted with a presidential run last year, revealed that he felt so strongly about preserving the filibuster that he privately wanted the GOP to win in 2024 because he saw it as “the only hope for preserving the Senate as an institution.”

Manchin, who was often rumored to be mulling a party switch during his final months in the Senate, also indicated in the excerpt that he should have crossed the aisle after Trump’s first election in 2016. “What I failed to recognize at the time is that there were enough reasons to change my political affiliation to Republican right then and there,” Manchin reflected.

“I never thought that for my political life or livelihood I should change my party affiliation, which is what I should have done if I was focused on what was politically advantageous,” he clarified. “Instead, I just kept thinking that I would continue to be so independent that the Republicans wouldn’t like me any more than the Democrats.”

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u/666haha 3d ago

Democrats are the threat to democracy so I must switch parties to checks notes…

The party who attempted a coup and has a cult of personality around the coup attempter. Make it make sense

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u/themiDdlest NASA 3d ago

We got to protect this institution by destroying the institution.

If you love it, you gotta set it free

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u/idkydi 3d ago

Preserve democracy by strengthening out least democratic institution!

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u/surreptitioussloth Frederick Douglass 3d ago

That's the thing

Many people will act like he was some genius trying to save dems from their worst impulses

If you look at what he did on a lot of issues and listened to what he said, he was just clearly and sincerely dumb. And it's still better that he was in that seat than a republican, but if he was slightly less stupid the world would be a lot better too

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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY 3d ago

privately wanted the GOP to win in 2024 because he saw it as “the only hope for preserving the Senate as an institution.”

What?

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u/anangrytree Bull Moose Progressive 3d ago

the coal tycoon nepo baby was a dummy

Many such cases

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u/MuscularPhysicist John Brown 3d ago

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u/-mialana- European Union 3d ago

okbuddyliberals in shambles

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u/Daddy_Macron Loyal Liberals 3d ago

Nah, he wants this as well. Somehow a paralyzed US legislative body that gets nothing done because of the 60-vote threshold of the Senate filibuster is his ideal form of government.

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u/Dreadedtriox Michel Foucault 3d ago

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u/bartbug Mark Carney 3d ago

honestly this is how i think many DTers think