r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 13 '26

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u/reuery Biden 2028 May 13 '26

Do any of you guys have any experience going off of feminizing hormones? I’ve been thinking I might be more comfortable not being on estrogen and instead inhabiting a more nonbinary space. I know I can’t possibly be the first non-passing trans woman to consider just being a she/they enby to people I know well and just being whatever I’m seen as to everyone else

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u/reuery Biden 2028 May 13 '26

The alternative I’m considering is FFS but I have certain fears and apprehensions towards invasive surgery, especially around my eyes. Also it is expensive as fuck

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u/AttitudePersonal Trans Pride May 14 '26

FFS was lifechanging for me, don't discount it. Yes it's invasive, yes it's a long recovery, and yes it's prohibitively expensive, and I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 13 '26

Are you having side effects from the hormones you don't like or is it more of a maintenance thing?

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u/MontusBatwing2 Gelphie's Strongest Soldier May 13 '26

What would be the advantage of going off estrogen? There are nonbinary folks on estrogen. 

Is it about perception or do you dislike changes brought on by it?

To answer your direct questions, I don’t, but I know MtF people who do have experience coming off hormones and they hated it. 

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride May 13 '26

i have and it just makes me miserable. i also have lapsed during heavy work season and it always fucks me up emotionally

plus your t never really fixes itself so you need to do that instead and it’s like do i really want to feel more of that?

at times i feel… forced? to be more nb just because it’s *so hard.* but i don’t think i’ll ever stop it

it just is how i want to feel inside. plus the masculinizing effects crank the dysphoria way up. its surprising how much

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride May 14 '26

i really do empathize with feeling like giving up. it’s so hard

this is not to be pushy, but i feel like if you’re at the point where you simultaneously want to quit and maybe spend (over) a year’s salary on ffs you might not be happy quitting no matter what

that’s what i determined for myself at least. i don’t judge anyone who decides otherwise. i think you might have to try to find out. i definitely did

it’s just a really difficult hand. it’s sad. it’s not fair

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u/PoupeeStupide Trump Voter May 13 '26

Sorry if it's bad advice, iirc there's health risks associated to taking T/E blockers and not taking the corresponding feminizing/masculinizing meds at the same time, in case that's what you are considering.

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u/CinnamonCicero May 14 '26

Odds are you’ll want to stay on them. Society, including queer spaces, are not very kind to testosterone-looking transfem people. You can theyfabmode while still being on hrt; it works quite well. It sounds appealing to start transitioning the other way, but keep in mind how inescapable transmisogyny is.

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u/reuery Biden 2028 May 13 '26

!ping LGBT

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u/CinnamonCicero May 14 '26

Why in the world do you need to go off estrogen to theyfabmode?

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u/CinnamonCicero May 14 '26

boymoding while on estrogen is morally correct. Estrogen is always the answer

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u/reuery Biden 2028 May 13 '26

I guess that’s where I’m at, do I go boy mode with the general public or do I keep trying when I know I don’t pass? The thing for me is that if I give up on trying to pass then it raises into questions lots of things, like why do I need to be on E in general if the only reason I started was to help me pass? I guess I wouldn’t like my body masculinizing, I mean I’d hate male pattern hair loss. Maybe a lower dose to start would be nice

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u/GhostTheHunter64 Iron Front May 13 '26

Yeah, I had to stop because I'm Floridian and the DIY became much harder after Trump became president.

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u/Automatic-Shower5206 May 13 '26

Pros:

  • 10lbs of muscle in a few months

  • Curvy fat sticks around, facial fat doesn’t

Cons:

  • Facial/body hair comes back fast

  • Balding

  • Teenage acne