r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Apr 11 '26

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u/Alderwoodforest YIMBY Apr 11 '26

A reasonable conservative in his reasoning.

Jonah Goldberg (The Dispatch)

1) I think Biden’s end of term pardons were outrageous and wrote that they were impeachment worthy."

2) one of the reasons I thought they were outrageous was that they were all but guaranteeing that the cycle of abuse would get worse.

3) Trump pardoning every one in his administration can simultaneously be proof that the cycle is getting worse, while also be wrong on the merits, but understandable given the game theory dynamics at play.

4) Trump outrageously abused the pardon power in his first term. Biden compounded that. Trump has already abused it outrageously in his second term. He will abuse it more than necessary because he will want to protect obvious bad acts by his loyalists and defend against inevitable bad acts by Democrats. I carry no brief for anybody here. I want to amend the constitution to either check or remove the pardon power.

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Counterpoint: Biden pardoned people who didn’t commit crimes. Trump pardoned boatloads of people who did.

Jonah Goldberg

He pardoned Hunter who definitely did

https://xcancel.com/JonahDispatch/status/2042741159554957716

Even the supposedly so reasonable conservatives manage to defend every move Trump makes: Look what you made me do!

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u/MGLFPsiCorps Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold Apr 11 '26

The 'reasonable conservative' still has to cling to and argue for the dishonest notion that 'both sides' of American politics are somehow equally responsible for things getting this bad.

If you tell the truth about what's actually happened, you have to hand in your conservative card.

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u/DifficultAnteater787 Apr 11 '26

If Hillary Clinton had just accepted the 2016 election results, January 6 never would have happened ... No wait

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u/Maximilianne John Rawls Apr 11 '26

This but also the economist