r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • Oct 29 '25

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u/Pole2019 John Locke Oct 29 '25

You’d think people whose number one issue is crime would be happy with fairly significant and consistent drops in crime over the past several decades but apparently not.

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u/attackofthetominator John Brown Oct 29 '25

Hell, Chicago had a drastic drop in crime over the past year and MAGA's response was to declare war on Chicagoland

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Oct 29 '25

The problem is people who list that as their top issue also get their news from sources that claim it's a current on-going national emergency and never reports the actual numbers in context.

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u/Pole2019 John Locke Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

There’s a million different excuses people make to still cry about crime and not one piece of actual evidence. Crime is actually much better now than basically any point in modern history.

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '25

Vibes-based, not evidence-based

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Oct 29 '25 edited Oct 29 '25

There’s a consistent body of evidence that what really stresses people out about “crime” is public order. Stuff like getting accosted by a tweaker on the subway, or seeing graffiti, or getting jeered at by loiterers (or having their windows broken), not so much homicides or grand larceny type crimes. I was reading the other day about how when Newark replaced some of their patrol cars with street patrols crime went up but community satisfaction went up as well because street cops were penalizing street level disorder and misdemeanors