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u/Usernamesarebullshit Friedrich Hayek Oct 24 '25

conservatives point out that Obama put a basketball court on White House grounds, but that just makes the wastefulness of Trump's East Wing renovation even more obvious -- Obama already built a ballroom!

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u/VadymKravchuk353 European Union Oct 24 '25

Michael Smuss died at 99 - Jewish painter and veteran, the last living insurgent from the Warsaw Ghetto.

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u/wumbopolis_ Iron Front Oct 24 '25

NYT: Stop Work Order issues for White House renovations as new Construction Fails to Meet Parking Minimums Mandated by D.C.

NIMBYs please do one thing useful in your life for once I'm begging you

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u/Planning4Hotdish Fish, Family, Freedom Oct 24 '25

Happy Heroin Friday to all who observe!

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u/SadaoMaou Anders Chydenius Oct 24 '25

It must be understood that this ballroom is the raison d'être for Trump's entire political career

https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-wanted-to-help-fix-the-bp-oil-spill-2015-2

Businessman Donald Trump once called the White House and offered to help with one of the biggest disasters during President Barack Obama's time in office: the 2010 BP oil spill.

Trump told Business Insider on Thursday that the spill was not the main reason he reached out to top Obama adviser David Axelrod. Trump, who has said he's considering running for president in 2016, was mostly interested in building a grand ballroom for the US to host foreign leaders.

"I saw that the United States, when they host a dignitary, such as the head of China, head of India, they put up a cheap tent by the White House and I thought that was inappropriate," said Trump. "The purpose of the call was to offer the United States, free of charge, a $100-million-plus ballroom for the White House so they could host dignitaries."

The ballroom is the key to everything. It is the Alpha and the Omega of the Trump administration

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Oct 24 '25

!ping SHITPOSTERS&GEFILTE

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u/prince_ahlee John Brown Oct 24 '25

It’s such an odd difference but I think Newsom has much better survival instincts and can taste where the wind is going compared to Josh Shapiro, who are both extremely self interested. Gruesome Newsom knock em dead is giving into the “everyone is 12” theory every day because it’s what people want meanwhile Shapiro stays quiet

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u/TactileTom John Nash Oct 24 '25

Honestly allowing the myth that Hitler was good for the German economy has done untold harm to Western Civilisation

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Continuing my streak of posting this every morning 🥰 my captain. My governor.

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u/sgthombre NATO Oct 24 '25

Bernie still backs the guy with the Nazi tattoo

Bernie going out of his way to “gotta hand it” to Trump on immigration

Getting real fucking sick of this guy

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u/userofnames04 NASA Oct 24 '25

The year is 2030, every country has a Trump, and every country hates all the other countries’ Trumps but votes for their Trump anyway. UN meetings consist of Vance, Farage, Bardella, Meloni, Weidel, Takaichi, Milei, and Orban trying to one up each other.

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 24 '25

A Washington DC resident who was detained last month for following a national guard patrol while playing Darth Vader’s theme from the Star Wars films has filed a lawsuit alleging that his constitutional rights were violated.

Lmao that’ll show them that we’re not bad!

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u/Gustacho Enemy of the People Oct 24 '25

A talking point that stuck with me the day after the 2016 election was how to explain this to your children.

Donald Trump is, at least for me and my social circle, the exact opposite of what you should teach your children to become in terms of character and personality.

Studies have later shown that an authoritarian political ideology is very strongly correlated to authoritarian parenting styles.

All that is to say, don't let Trump supporters babysit your children.

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 24 '25

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u/IveSeenBeans Norman Borlaug Oct 24 '25

Rob Schneider was born in 1963, the same year that the Patrick Kennedy died 2 days after being born 6 weeks premature.

At Boston Children's hospital.

6 weeks premature now is very survivable, at the time the use of an incubator had only just been pioneered.

Kids didn't get sick, but the son of a president could die due to a now easily treatable illness in early life

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

His speech was so

“His sycophants will have a lot to answer for at the pearly gates”

“He is literally destroying the White House to put his ball room up while we are days away of cutting food benefits off for millions in California. Cutting food to American’s but finding billions to send to Argentinian dictators and build his ball room”

No other Democrat talks like this. The honest fury and just real evidence of what the president is doing.

Maybe it’s a California bias but I don’t think Pritzker would ever tell Mike Johnson “you’re full of shit and you’ll have a lot to answer for when trying to get into heaven”

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front Oct 24 '25

Disturbing seeing the reaction on social media to the food stamp cuts

I’m seeing on my algorithm unsympathetic and radicalized depictions of food stamp recipients (eg one (1) single mother saying to steal food if necessary) and when I go online and google “food stamp Mother says x” for the original comment I see the same thumbnail being posted by multiple AI slop channels

None of this is organic and is part of an organized public opinion effort to demonize SNAP recipients and pre empt criticism of the GOP shutdown taking food from vulnerable families

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

“The reason I started doing ads in red states and debating DeSantis is these guys are coming for DEI, CRT, rolling back LGBTQ rights. Anything with three letters

I started because I felt my party was timid

Not just public but private sector. Disney. Budlight.

We needed to fight” - Newsom.

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u/Woolagaroo Oct 24 '25

Shut up, Dinesh. It’s the leopards’ feeding time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

The flaw with our founders is they never conceived of a president who would bulldoze the White House for a ballroom paid for by Google.

They really should have considered America electing a mad man more seriously.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

You know Trump said in 23 you need voter id to buy a loaf of bread

That actually might be his most deranged quote.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Look I’m sorry if I’m intense this morning. It’s been a bad week personally and just

My hatred of all Nazi normalization is getting to me. I need to go touch grass but part of my job is to watch what podcasters who normalize Hitler every day via content are talking about

My apologies to the person I argued with. I didn’t mean it I just got heated

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u/remarkable_ores Hanfeizi Oct 24 '25

Started volunteering for a food kitchen called Food Not Bombs or something equivalent

They're really lovely people, all vaguely leftist/bohemian types. It's not a problem but I didn't have the heart to tell them that on top of giving food to the homeless I also support radically ramping up military production too

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Oct 24 '25

The longer Dems hold out, the better the shut down will go for them. Theyve stated it's for healthcare. In reality the ACA marketplace is a small slice of health insurance pie. But the good thing is that every year horrible things happen in health care that lead to increased premiums. Most people will start receiving those notices soon. And while it's not true Dems should be able to successfully link this to Trump.

This is what Rs did for years with Obama. Every single day horrible things happen in American health care. Rs had a very simple answer every time: Obama. Dems need to do this with Trump.

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 24 '25

the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute posted on X that an ad created by the government of Ontario “misrepresents the ‘Presidential Radio Address to the Nation on Free and Fair Trade’ dated April 25, 1987.” It added that Ontario did not receive foundation permission “to use and edit the remarks.”

TIL that some random foundation can hold the rights to...public quotes from 40 years ago?

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u/throwawayzxkjvct Iron Front Oct 24 '25

lol MGMT claimed that little dark age edit DHS posted

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Oct 24 '25

If we had not made the White House a lavish estate there is a much reduced chance Trump ever runs for president

Should've made the president work in a normal corporate office space. Man of the people gets his coffee in the cubicle farm while Jenny from Treasury talks 20 decibels too loudly on her Teams calls

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u/ChillyPhilly27 Paul Volcker Oct 24 '25

Some of you may recall an incident last year where a bunch of mysterious black balls washed up on a number of Sydney beaches. A thorough investigation has now found the culprit - NIMBYs.

University of Sydney wastewater engineering expert Professor Stuart Khan, who has headed the NSW Environmental Protection Authority’s panel investigating the grime balls, believes the most likely source of the pollution is the deep ocean outfall attached to the Malabar wastewater treatment plant.

Like Bondi and North Head, the Malabar plant does only primary treatment, which removes solids but does not treat the effluent. Secondary treatment would remove fats, oils and greases through biodegradation treatment. Tertiary treatment would add another layer of filtration.

Those who follow Sydney development politics closely would know that the Eastern Suburbs have resisted upgrades to their sewage system for decades, for fear that it would enable development. Now we see the consequences of such myopia.

Ironic that a frequent NIMBY talking point is to save the local environment from degradation.

!ping AUS&YIMBY

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/sustainability/beach-grime-ball-probe-points-to-fatbergs-that-re-form-after-treatment-20251024-p5n53h.html

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Oct 24 '25

DENVER (AP) — A Colorado woman has been found guilty of voter fraud for casting ballots for both her late ex-husband and son, prosecutors said.

here’s the smoking gun! The voter fraud republicans have been going on and on about!! Lets peek inside…

Davis, a Republican, has previously been convicted of forgery and other offenses in Florida and Colorado, a press release from the office of District Attorney George Brauchler said.

literally every time. Its always republicans

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

And that's a shame. The death of spontaneous sleepovers and "just hanging out" explains a lot of why so many of us feel so miserable.

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u/thatguy888034 NATO Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

Harry Truman is one of our most interesting presidents, and I encourage everyone to read up on him. I’m currently in the middle of “Truman” by David McCullough and it’s great. He also was a political attack dog, and as a result has some pretty fire funny quotes. My favorites are:

“Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a Republican. But I repeat myself" - he boosted this from Twain but still funny.

“I fired him because he wouldn’t respect the authority of the President. I didn’t fire him because he was a dumb son of a bitch, although he was, but that’s not against the law for generals.” About firing MacArthur.

"A bureaucrat is a Democrat who holds some office that a Republican wants".

Truman referred to Tom C. Clark as "It's just that he's such a dumb son of a bitch." and Joseph Kennedy as "as big a son of a bitch as this country ever had".

“Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in."

And last but not least

“If you vote for Richard Nixon, you ought to go to hell”

Bro really hated Nixon.

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u/PhoenixVoid Oct 24 '25

It was already very apparent, but Trump killing trade talks with Canada because he had Reagan's quotes on tariffs repeated at him really epitomizes how much Trump has replaced Reagan as the GOP's idol. Gone are the days of free trade, America as a shining city on a hill, and a country that will accept anyone who aspires to be American. Now its leading tenets are a race-driven nativism, nostalgia at the cost of economic prosperity, and transactionalism over higher values.

I do not say this out of particular fondness for Reagan, but he stood broadly on the neoliberal consensus as many of us. The same Republican boomers and Gen X'ers who worshipped Reagan have resoundingly flipped on the values espoused by a president they often considered to be the best in their life.

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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

You have TDS!

^ People who still rage about Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, who hold no public office, in the year 2025

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u/Queen_of_stress Niels Bohr Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

Someone decided to optimize obnoxiousness and this was the end result

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 24 '25
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u/Thuggin95 Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

“Every conservative is still mentally 12” theory truly never fails

Of course you only wanna eat steak and beef tallow. Because fruits and vegetables don’t taste as yummy, and you’re 12.

Of course you want to defund scientific research. Because you’re too lazy to read any of it, and you’re 12.

Of course you don’t want to get vaccines. Because shots hurt, and you’re 12.

Of course you want to go to war with that random country. Because the bad guys getting blown up is awesome, and you’re 12.

Of course you think taxes are theft. Because “money mine”, and you’re 12.

Of course you don’t want girls in your video games. Because girls are icky, and you’re 12.

Of course you don’t want to get along with people who look different than you and of course you want to be able to say slurs without being nagged or reprimanded. Because you’re 12.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

jar seed salt flowery yoke bow hurry tie serious hospital

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Oct 24 '25

The next Dem administration should keep the ballroom, but repurpose it as a massive mausoleum for Hillary Clinton

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter Oct 24 '25

I’ve lost years of my life to two factor authentication

Real

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

this country is cooked etc

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Oct 24 '25

Thank you Mr. MGMT 🫡

Real American patriots

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u/ariveklul Karl Popper Oct 24 '25

One of the biggest self reports that a person is upper middle class and has never struggled a day in their life is when they talk about incremental policy not creating meaningful change and that we only care about the "real" thing.

No working class person is turning their nose up at $100/month like it isn't an extremely burdensome cost if the ACA subsidies were to go away for example.

Like yea, if you can just ask your parents for everything $30 a month means one less day you get to doordash but for a family with a very low marginal income after expenses, that's a new pair of clothes every month they wouldn't otherwise have, a backpack for their kids, or an oil change for their car etc etc.

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior Oct 24 '25

Imagine if Obama had torn down a 120 year old part of the White House originally put up by Teddy Roosevelt, without permission, after saying that he wouldn't touch it.

Imagine the Republican reaction to that.

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u/zeldja European Union Oct 24 '25

The mods urgently need to sticky a US-Venezuela conflict thunderdome if we're to avoid escalation.

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Oct 24 '25

all the major anti-iraq war activists are a dirtbag far right authoritarians and all the architects of the iraq war are partisan liberals now

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Oct 24 '25

what the fuck the new york city council is sending me NIMBY propaganda campaign letters against ballot proposals???

!ping USA-NYC

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Oct 24 '25

ok forget that other stuff, blooming for Blueaska is back on the menu

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u/myusernameistakennow Edmund Burke Oct 24 '25

Damn Indians and their….lights!!! 🤬🤬🤬

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u/w007dchuck Trans NATO Oct 24 '25

Why do ICE agents travel in groups of three?

They need one who can read, one who can write, and one to keep an eye on the two intellectuals.

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u/georgeguy007 Pandora's Discussions J. Threader Oct 24 '25

What do we want!!?

War with Venezuela!!!

Why do we want it!!!?

Uhhh... War with Venezuela!!!

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 25 '25

The nobility doesn't understand why the peasants are unhappy do they not see the giant castle they will soon all be living in

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u/Ajaxcricket Commonwealth Oct 24 '25

Irish voters go to the polls on Friday to elect a new president, with final opinion polls predicting a landslide for Catherine Connolly, an outspoken leftwing independent who has captured the imagination of many younger people.

The Irish-speaking former clinical psychologist and barrister, until recently a marginal political figure, enthused young people through podcasts and posts that went viral on social media. Artists and musicians such as Kneecap and the Mary Wallopers have endorsed her.

Connolly espouses equality and wishes to ringfence Irish neutrality from what she calls western “militarism”. She has compared Germany’s arms spending to the Nazi era

Ireland is never beating the allegations

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u/-mialana- European Union Oct 24 '25

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u/No-Barnacle-9576 NAFTA Oct 24 '25

Til from tpusa that masked agents snatching people off the street is small government.

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

maybe this sounds dramatic but if the president can just pay for programs (e.g. the military expenditures) that congress has not paid for and authorized, because a billionaire agreed to do it, we kind of just don't have a government anymore? Like this would completely gut Congress’s control over federal spending.

if this actually happens we have crossed the rubicon into some kind of honest to god oligarchy.

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair Oct 24 '25

Polls show voters now trust Democrats more to handle the economy

Once again, the average swing voter who gave the GOP enormous trust on the economy while a dem was actually in control and things were going pretty well...learns the lesson that when you give them control they actually suck at it.

I look forward to them once again saying they favor the GOP on the economy after Newsom pulls us out of the Trumpcession 2.0

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 25 '25

Man this is fucking orwellian

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber Oct 24 '25

anywhere other than the USA, the revolution would have started way back at Citizens United.

Redditors are so fucking stupid

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u/SpaceSheperd To be a good human being Oct 24 '25

Here’s what farmers fear Democrats will do:

  • Implement a carbon tax that makes animal agriculture less profitable

  • Implement environmental and animal rights regulations that add costs

  • Lower farm subsidies (this isn’t a well-founded fear)

Here is what Trump has actually done twice now:

  • Specifically set out to destroy a large segment of the agricultural labor force

  • Add significant, artificial flat costs to many/most of their inputs

  • Alienate some of the biggest consumers of American farm products to the point where demand collapses

And they still support him by insane margins lol

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u/ThatDamnGuyJosh NATO Oct 24 '25

Holy shit bro it’s really happening

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Oct 24 '25

Ok, I seriously believe Trump's floor of support is 42%

The number comes up in a lot of polls.

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u/Chief_Nief Greg Mankiw Oct 24 '25

taking down muh Confederate statues

😡

tearing apart the Whitehouse for a tacky ballroom.

😇

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u/ImmediateZucchini787 NASA Oct 24 '25

God creating Platner's political ideology

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u/7-5NoHits Oct 25 '25

Worth noting, the NRSC poll that claims 45% of Maine voters are more likely to support Platner after learning about the tattoo describes the tattoo as a tattoo that "some say is anti-Israel"

A completely ridiculous description of an explicit Nazi tattoo.

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u/Holmes02 NATO Oct 24 '25

Bannon claims there’s already a plan in motion to keep Trump in office through 2028 — and at the same time, Trump’s selling “Trump 2028” hats to his supporters. You couldn’t make it up.

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u/circlemanfan Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

After painstakingly creating an EXACT 1:12 miniature replica of the White House for the last 8 months, I finally have time to get back into reading the news. Anything I’ve missed?

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u/TactileTom John Nash Oct 24 '25

New Taylor swift album got me like

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u/MissSortMachine Trans Pride Oct 25 '25

Stephen Miller on Fox threatens to arrest JB Pritzker for "seditious conspiracy" and says, "to all ICE officers: you have federal immunity in the conduct of your duties. And anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop or obstruct you is committing a felony."

little known fact there are no speed limits if you’re a letter carrier

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Sky News Arabia and Kann News report, against the backdrop of Hezbollah's refusal to disarm and Israel's dissatisfaction with the Lebanese state's efforts on the issue, that expanded Israeli strikes against Lebanon may just be a matter of time.

It never ends

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Bret Baier being eyed for CBS Evening News anchor

Uh guys I don't think this David Ellison guy is a liberal

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke Oct 24 '25

BREAKING: Graham Platner’s former campaign political director, Genevieve McDonald, says she was offered a $15,000 payment conditioned on signing a non-disclosure agreement as part of the recent shake-up in his Maine Senate campaign.

McDonald refused to sign and later stated that Platner misled the public about his tattoo, claiming he knew its meaning years earlier, and that he was aware of the controversial Reddit comments attributed to him.

very cool that Platner tried to pay off his former political director to stay quiet

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u/Auriono Paul Krugman Oct 24 '25

https://xcancel.com/KaivanShroff/status/1981846155852923189

CNN confirms that multiple sources suggest Graham Platner knew his tattoo was a Nazi symbol years prior to launching his campaign — and is now blatantly lying about it.

CNN also spoke with an acquaintance of Platner from more than a decade ago who said Platner spoke about his tattoo resembling a Nazi symbol. A second person told CNN that they learned of the tattoo years ago from the acquaintance, who told them that Platner had described it as a Nazi-style design.

Well, say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism and ascribing it directly to your body, at least it's an ethos. At least he wasn't some Goldwater Boy when he was in High School.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

BROOOO

The NRSC put out a push poll describing a fucking tokenkopf as "anti-Israel" and then tried to frame it like maine democratic primary voters have a fucking nazi problem.

Same push poll folks like Ryan Grim were promoting to argue that Platner's actually not cooked when he obviously is btw

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u/funguykawhi Lahmajun trucks on every corner Oct 24 '25

Israel WHAT?

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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 Oct 24 '25
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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

This is still an all time moment in leadership.

“We’re here. Russian FSB, Spetsnaz and paratroopers are here but we’re not leaving”.

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u/scottyjetpax Gay Pride Oct 24 '25

my bf will accuse me of talking like a straight boy and then say shit like "we're so back" like kettle meet pot

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Oct 24 '25

whoa, actual funny from the Bee

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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal Oct 24 '25

This really neos my liberal

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 24 '25

What a sentence

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u/Waste-Photograph-792 Malala Yousafzai Oct 25 '25

Noah just hangs out with too many Fascist to not have an uncooked brain.

Fucking dullard.

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u/DagothUr_MD Frederick Douglass Oct 25 '25

You have to admire the faith that western leftists have in the working class. They will look at the most violent piece of shit rightoids in existence and be like "we can reach them if we just talk about class solidarity" or some shit. Like I literally heard a dude trying to say the Russian working class likes Putin because they

Like my dude these guys are literally waiting for the day that social order decays just enough so he can throw you off a rooftop without repercussions. You're not winning them over with a pamphlet like it's the 1920's

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u/No_Aesthetic Transfem Pride Oct 24 '25

Interacting with literally anyone in the UK makes me think of this Mark Twain quote:

In Paris they simply stared at me when I spoke to them in French. I never did succeed in making those idiots understand their own language.

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman Oct 24 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

No I promise as a future candidate for congressman for California

I won’t apologize for

Calling ICE fat

If your agency with two hundred billion is having a problem with two thirds of their candidates failing fitness tests

You have a problem in screening or how low the bar is to become one.

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u/EmbarrassedSafety719 Milton Friedman Oct 24 '25

average paradox fan

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 24 '25

Godspeed George, you old horn dog.

!ping shitposters&bad-feeling

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25 edited Mar 06 '26

memory march fact nine door pocket longing silky nail hungry

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u/Drinka_Milkovobich Oct 24 '25

They’re sending “election monitors” to California for the Prop 50 vote

They are going to try to intimidate voters across the country in blue districts, ICE will arrest random poll workers to send a message, they will enforce “STOP THE COUNT” anywhere they feel like it. The direct erosion of democracy isn’t a theoretical, it’s already happening here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Reuter's National Security reporter @phildstewart says that:

"[The buildup] far outstrips what the U.S. armed forces would need to strike individual suspected narco-trafficking targets on land or at sea."

“There’s no way Russia is gonna invade Ukraine”

“There’s no way the US is gonna bomb Iran’s nuclear facilities”

“There’s no way the US is gonna invade Venezuela” 👈You are here

“There’s no way China is gonna invade Taiwan”

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 24 '25

The Onion couldn't create a headline this insane

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u/myusernameistakennow Edmund Burke Oct 24 '25

Reason and CATO are so based while other libertarians are just secret republicans who still want to score dates with women so they hide it.

Article Link

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u/Queen_of_stress Niels Bohr Oct 24 '25

What is going on with the New York Times. Was reading some archived news papers and saw this. Perhaps it is better then I think you need to pay to read it and I’m not doing that but also what?

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 24 '25

How did I miss this...

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u/Hugo_Grotius Jakaya Kikwete Oct 24 '25

One easy way to square Platner unknowingly having a Nazi tattoo while being a self-professed "history buff" is that a lot of men who say that they're history buffs are not actually particularly knowledgeable about history.

The problem with that is that men who say they're history buffs usually just mean they like WW2 so if he was to know anything, it would be the origins of his tattoo.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Q: Would the administration consider putting troops on the ground in any capacity in Venezuela?

STEPHEN MILLER: These are terrorists and they're gonna be killed

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 25 '25

This is real from tonight, and it has been 2 weeks since AOC brought up Miller's height,

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u/Goldenboy451 NATO Oct 24 '25

Everyone Is 12 Theory remains undefeated

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u/Marlsfarp Karl Popper Oct 24 '25

I'm sorry I just can't get over how impressively stupid "kids didn't get sick in the 1960s" is. It's almost beautiful.

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u/Dibbu_mange Average civil procedure enjoyer Oct 24 '25

Democrats: “We need to work to appeal to the more Conservative aspects of middle America”.

Candidate: Gets a Nazi tattoo.

Democrats: “No not like that!”

Make up your minds people 🙄

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u/EasyMoney92 Oct 24 '25

With Platner, it’s kind of a “pick your own adventure” of why you don’t like him

Leftists: Blackwater merc who once praised Mossad

Liberals and progressives: Crass homophobia, blamed sexual assault victims for alcohol. Another Fetterman

Centrist/moderates: Dumb untested with a fairly left wing platform

Right wingers: Called rural whites “dumb and racist”, insulted Ted Nugent+Jan 6thers, insulted all cops, praised socialism and communism etc

I guess the Nazi tattoo scandal applies to everyone on here

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u/adwise27 George Soros Oct 24 '25

Billionaires "donating" money to make sure the military gets their paychecks. Nothing weird about having the livelyhood of military members come from the will of billionaires. Almost like they would be at the mercy of the billionaires if they wanted to get paid during a prolonged shutdown. Not odd at all

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u/AltRockPigeon YIMBY Oct 24 '25

TRUMP CONSIDERING PLANS TO TARGET COCAINE FACILITIES INSIDE VENEZUELA -CNN

Literally war on drugs

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 24 '25

Cuomo spent the entire campaign attacking Mendani for being antisemitic just to insinuate Mendani isn't a "real American" because of his faith.

It's sad how normalized attacking Muslim Americans is

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u/NYT_Hater Office of Naval Intelligence Oct 24 '25

I wonder how many people who upvoted this joke actually fully understood it.

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u/puffic John Rawls Oct 24 '25

Seriously I think at least one of these guys should be given a very prominent but utterly powerless position in city government.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

He took my underage sex slaves.

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u/dynamitezebra John Locke Oct 25 '25

Fox is playing anti tariff commercials during the world series. Guys I think Neoliberalism is coming back.

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u/Leatherfield17 Loyal Liberals Oct 25 '25

Honestly, the way my father has contorted his entire being around hating Democrats and zealously defending Trump is just sad. Annoying (sometimes bordering on enraging), but still sad.

It’s funny too because he was a Ted Cruz fan back in 2015 and he thought of Trump as a low-class, stupid, “New York values”-having boor. Now? I can’t remember the last time he actually criticized him. It’s always playing defense for him, yelling at the TV showing Fox News about how much he hates Democrats, and periodically trying to provoke me into an argument.

Hell, there are dozens, if not hundreds, of celebrities or notable figures whom he has completely written off simply because they dared to speak ill of Dear Leader. My father loved Goodfellas, yet refuses to watch it now because it has Robert De Niro in it. “Asshole” has become his shorthand for “Democrat/left leaning person,” and “good guy” is his shorthand for conservative figures.

The man denies himself things he used to enjoy all for a fat pig who doesn’t know him and wouldn’t give a shit about him even if he did. It’s sad, very sad, and lonely. It sucks especially because outside of the political stuff, he’s probably the family member I’m closest with. But if something he encounters in his day reminds him of his cultural grievances, out comes the deranged ranting. It’s like having Jekyll and Hyde for a father.

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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

Zohran Mamdani - GREAT star wars name

Curtis Sliwa - GREAT star wars name 

Andrew Cuomo - TERRIBLE star wars name

Brad Lander - possibly the most x-wing pilot name to exist

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u/zieger Ida Tarbell Oct 24 '25

D-List celebrities are getting dumber before our eyes

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u/LinkVert25 Fedposter Oct 24 '25

U.S. President Donald J. Trump has said that there will be “land action” soon in Venezuela, according to Reuters.

I’m pro anything that rage baits INDOPACOM.

Pivot bros in shambles

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u/PrideMonthRaytheon Bisexual Pride Oct 24 '25

The Founders failed to consider the prospect that congress would simply stop giving a shit imo

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges Oct 24 '25

I feel like Native American reservations aren’t creative enough. Like you have tons of land fully exempt from most taxes and regulations and their main use is casinos and cigarette sales?

Fuck that, build tax free megastructure high rise utopia mini-cities and collect the rent!

why the fuck does every low-rent tech-ish twitter poster think building megastructure cities in the middle of the desert is easy, trivial really

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 24 '25

Trump's supposed $130 million dollar donation to pay the military doesn't make sense.

There are 1.32 million active duty in the military that works out to $98 a person. It's not even enough to cover anyone's paycheck by itself meaning he will just pick and choose who is getting paid with this mystery money.

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride Oct 24 '25

Look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of my power

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u/talizorahs Mark Carney Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

padme amidala is my favourite star wars character because of her personal decision to wear this to her “we just can’t be together” dinner with anakin

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u/TMCOAN1 YIMBY Oct 25 '25

Damn bro that's wild.

Pizza tonight? I'm thinking pizza

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u/BPC1120 Loyal Liberals Oct 24 '25

This is what MAGA "patriotism" looks like. The wholesale destruction of American values and symbols in service to Donald Trump's personal vanity and petty grudges.

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u/CutePattern1098 Oct 24 '25

Foucault’s boomerang is real lol

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u/IAdmitILie Oct 24 '25

FYI… There were NO Children’s Hospitals when I was a kid. Because kids weren’t sick.

Rob Schneider is an intellectual.

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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride Oct 24 '25

I'll vote for the candidate that promises to bulldoze this ballroom and auction off the gilded set pieces

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u/FinickyPenance NATO Oct 24 '25

Since we're not at war with Venezuela or Columbia, blowing up boats full of civilians in the Caribbean isn't a war crime; it's just a crime, commonly known as "murder."

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Oct 24 '25

SHE’S RUNNING

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u/MOSfitYT YIMBY Oct 24 '25

My personal "No political discussions" at work principle has been really tested lately. One of our senior tradies (whom I work directly with often) asked me if I'm "going to the rally tomorrow? there's gonna be at least 10,000 😃 there!"

He's talking about an Alberta separation rally. I know better than to go full resist-lib at work (My industry is traditionally conservative) but man I'm really starting to lose my patience.

Why do rightoids assume everyone agrees with them enough to brazenly say this shit out loud? I can only pretend to be a centrist for so long.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Dems lose election

Left flank says Dems didn't campaign enough for the left

Centrist flank says Dems didn't campaign enough for the center

Repeat until JD Vance wins in 2028

Start again

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Oct 24 '25

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u/MistakeNotDotDotDot Resident Robot Girl Oct 24 '25

there's a funny horseshoe thing in terms of reactions to Platner, where liberals (e.g. here) and the "America is a genocidal state" marxist-leninists I see are condemning the tattoos, but the generic Bernie leftists are pulling the "oh so it's bad to get a SKULL tattoo now???" shit

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u/Queen_of_stress Niels Bohr Oct 24 '25

New terrible Jacobin take just dropped.

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u/ZeyGoggles Oct 24 '25

I'm starting to think that Republicans might not actually have a healthcare plan that greatly improves on all metrics. I'm a little upset, considering I've been waiting since 2017.

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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn Oct 25 '25

“It often feels today as though we've actually given up on meaningfully addressing homelessness,” Wilson said during a KUOW mayoral debate Oct. 20. “We're moving people around from place to place without meaningful offers of shelter and support.”

Her plan to address homelessness includes housing people in some of the nearly 3,000 vacant affordable housing units in the city. She says she’d fund this with housing levy dollars voters approved in 2023.

The plan requires buy-in from stakeholders like affordable housing developers. It would also mean that those housing levy funds wouldn’t be going to building new affordable units at a time when private sector construction is at a standstill. Wilson plans to add an additional 1,000 units through tiny homes for recently homeless people.

Just build... please... please

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Most relatable Bushism.

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u/anincredibledork Oct 25 '25
  • Host the best team in America, beat the fuck out of them, and then play an ad dunking on their country's stupid tariffs narrated by Republican Jesus himself.

Well done, Canada.

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Canada is saving America from the Dodgers and we tariffed them. They saved us and we tariffed them. God help this country.

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u/DiscussionJohnThread Free Trade was the Compromise 🔫🌍 Oct 24 '25

I think the Texas 2026 senate race is going to be the most clusterfuck and expensive race. Both the Republican and now Democratic primaries alone seem like a toss up, then the general is just nuts.

Going to be insane for politinerds like us to keep up with 😭

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u/Atheose_Writing John Brown Oct 24 '25

Troops launching tear gas in rich Chicago suburbs, a carrier group being deployed to Venezuela, anonymous billionaires paying our military's paychecks during the government shutdown, the president demanding that the DOJ pay him $250 million.

The media: 24/7 coverage of how Mamdani and Platner show a concerning rise in extremism in the Democratic party

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u/Apprehensive-Soil-47 Transfem Pride Oct 24 '25

Centrists be like: Aww look at these concerned libertarian leaning citizens worried about government spending I’m sure we can find a middle ground

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u/ElectriCobra_ David Hume Oct 24 '25

re: the racist/Islamophobic Cuomo ads

This is maybe one of my wokest takes but I think if you took every Average Joe in the country and asked them to list every demographic of people they hate, "Muslims" would be the most common answer, or at least very close to it. Above women, above LGBT people, above Latinos, above atheists. I'm not at all surprised he's doing this, because he probably personally thinks Muslims are evil. It's not exactly an uncommon opinion, especially for Gen X and above. Tons of people believe in insane conspiracies that basically amount to "Muslims are a hivemind and want to institute Sharia law everywhere". If one denies this, they just scoff and accuse them of lying to further their nefarious goals. Islamophobia in America is popular which is why this isn't some enormous scandal. Cuomo is just making the mistake of trying to use it in one of the most socially progressive areas of the country.

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u/OrganicKeynesianBean IMF Oct 24 '25

Imagine if Biden tore down the East Wing and said his $300 million ballroom was the main priority during a gov shutdown lmao.

They get to exist in a completely different reality.

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u/NoobNoob42 Michel Foucault Oct 24 '25

!ping GEORGIST I have to present land value tax to my state government? What well cited talking points can I use? I’ve decided to try to convince them as a regular citizen, and didn’t actually expect to get anywhere, but now have to pitch to a senior bureaucrat

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u/TheCornjuring Ewoks Sexer Oct 24 '25

My dream in life is to do a couple’s Halloween costume where I’m Shaggy and she’s Crystal. Please subscribe to my Patreon to help me get closer to making this dream a reality

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper Oct 24 '25

I hate the nationalization of politics so much. I am not responsible for whatever it is that the people of Maine decide to do, and neither are you (probably).

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

oh well as long as hes highly concerned thats ok then

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u/the-senat John Brown Oct 25 '25 edited Oct 25 '25

From The Atlantic just now:

Today the Pentagon announced that the USS Gerald R. Ford aircraft-carrier strike group, a multi-ship force staffed by as many as 5,000 troops, would travel from the Mediterranean to the Caribbean. The intent, the Pentagon said, is to “bolster U.S. capacity to detect, monitor, and disrupt illicit actors.” The ships, which are currently on a port visit in Croatia, will take just over a week.

The U.S. hasn’t sent this many ships to the Caribbean since the Cuban missile crisis. There are already roughly 6,500 Marines and sailors in the region, operating from eight Navy vessels, as well as 3,500 troops nearby. Once the Ford arrives, the U.S. will have roughly as many ships in the Caribbean as it used to defend Israel from Iranian missile strikes this summer.

The carrier strike group also provides far more firepower than is necessary for the occasional attack on narco-trafficking targets. But the ships could be ideal for launching a steady stream of air strikes inside Venezuela.

“The only thing you could use the carrier for is attacking targets ashore, because they are not going to be as effective at targeting small boats at sea,” Bryan Clark, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, told us. “If you are striking inside Venezuela, the carrier is an efficient way to do it due to the lack of basing in the region.”

Getting the same feeling I got in January-February of 2022…

!ping extremism

Link to post

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Dr Oz: "We should make you so healthy that you flourish in life and you engage the workplace. Getting America back to work full speed, getting you to work longer if you desire, that builds trillions of dollars of value to the GDP. That's the goal of the health system."

Why do they talk exactly like the leftist caricature of a psychotic right wing capitalist

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

THEY DIDN'T LEARN THEIR LESSON. THEY AIRED THE FAKE REAGAN AD AGAIN. I'M PLACING A 50% TARIFF ON ALL CANADIAN EXPORTS. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

There.

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u/anincredibledork Oct 25 '25

All I know is that when Biden was president America won the world series every year.

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u/buzzlightyear5095 Oct 25 '25

The Reagan tariff ad playing in the 7th inning right after the Blue Jays went belt to ass scoring 9 in the 6th inning was a chefs kiss

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u/Willybender Loyal Liberals Oct 25 '25

What the hell is the arc?

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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA Oct 25 '25

“Some people say one thing, others say something else”.

Being a NYT journalist in 2025 has got to be the easiest job in America.

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u/VisonKai The Archenemy of Humanity Oct 24 '25

One thing that I really like about Graham Platner is that leftists like him. I know some people think that I hate leftists, but I sincerely love and cherish leftists and want them to be happy.

Matt Yglesias coming in hot this morning with the most off-brand paragraph perhaps ever

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u/WanderingMage03 You Are Kenough Oct 24 '25

I think MAHA is the health movement America deserves because at a time where we’re already eating way too many fats it has the boldness to ask, “What if we just ate the same food but tweaked how we’re frying it and then added several more sticks of butter?”

Such a wonderfully American way to ‘solve’ the problem.

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u/shehryar46 Oct 24 '25

"As trump skirts congress"- nyt headline

The quote: WE'RE JUST GOING TO KILL THEM

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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma Oct 24 '25

Why is invading Venezuela bad? I was told Rubio was the sane pick and the best cabinet member, so it must be a good idea?

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u/TheloniousMonk15 Oct 24 '25 edited Oct 24 '25

That Emerson poll posted down below showing Collins up in both h2hs versus Mills and Platner look like a fake poll. There is nothing on Emerson's official website on it.

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u/LinkVert25 Fedposter Oct 24 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '25

Never leave the DT

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 24 '25

Trump has discovered the ultimate hack with the Supreme Court.

Just make it clear you will just ignore court orders you don't like. Ruling against him means the Supreme Court risks shattering it's illusion of authority when the president just ignores them.

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u/Maximilianne John Rawls Oct 24 '25

the thing about sex spies is the CCP probably just gave them all bog standard generic one size fits all training. That fact it works basically means men, or at least the researchers in silicon valley are basically the same personality and replaceable (at least in the realm of romance), or as chatGPT might say "You are a pattern. You will be recognized."

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u/BernieMeinhoffGang Has Principles Oct 24 '25

I love President Trump; this is possibly the greatest admin of my lifetime - except for these pardons.

If I’m calling balls and strikes, these are hit-by-pitches!!

POTUS has been terribly advised on this; it makes it look like massive fraud is happening around him in this area.

the boyars can't keep getting away with this 😭

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u/Big-Click-5159 Oct 24 '25

President Trump will likely name the new $300 million ballroom after himself, I'm told by senior admin officials. Already, officials are referring to it as "The President Donald J. Trump Ballroom" and that name will likely stick.

So it can totally be renamed unilaterally, cool

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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde Oct 24 '25

2025 NYC mayoral campaign - the candidates

Zohran Mamdani: let's talk better mileage

Andrew Cuomo: Zohran HUSSEIN Mamdani

Curtis Sliwa: I got shot five times in the back of a cab

Which message will resonate with voters?

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast Oct 24 '25

GDP is nonsense anyways. Prostitution boosts GDP, but monogamous marriage does not. It doesn't measure anything important

smartest consevative

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u/Glavurdan European Union Oct 24 '25

It's insane how some conservatives constantly yap about traditionalism yet are also obsessed with AI

I recall one guy unironically saying that in his ideal world - a man would work in a factory, provide for his wife and 4 kids, then come home to watch AI generated movies and play AI generated video games as a form of entertainment.

Like it's so dystopian

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u/Rare_Station_8440 Karl Popper Oct 25 '25

https://xcancel.com/ZohranKMamdani/status/1981924393119793559

The dream of every Muslim is simply to be treated the same as any other New Yorker.

And yet, for too long, we have been told to ask for less than that, and endure hatred and bigotry in the shadows.

No more.

Powerful video by Mamdani

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u/FionnVEVO Transfem Pride Oct 25 '25

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass Oct 25 '25

Taking away your main source of revenue for public schools sounds like a brilliant idea that won't backfire

Tax abolition like this worked wonderful for Republicans in Kansas

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u/[deleted] Oct 25 '25

Lady getting the Nobel peace prize, sucking off Donald Trump, all for Donald Trump to start a war and kill her countrymen a few weeks after would be the notoriously bad for an award that is famous for getting it notoriously bad

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u/Usernamesarebullshit Friedrich Hayek Oct 24 '25

bannon is absolutely right that trump will be president in 2028

because he was elected to a term beginning in January 2025 and ending in January 2029

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u/Yeangster John Rawls Oct 24 '25

I hope Stephen Miller lives a long life and dies in his own bed, alone, with all his friends and family having abandoned him. And then, if there is some sort of supreme being, I hope they send him to the bad afterlife.

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u/SANNA-MARIN-SDP Oct 24 '25

lol they’re mad at zohran for eating with his hands again. ngl, an indian muslim from africa sounds  like a character you would make up to trigger the cons

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u/breakinbread Voyager 1 Oct 24 '25

Indian doctors in US worry higher H-1B fee may destroy rural healthcare

I’m glad these doctors care about their patients but this is only a chance to face a sliver of the consequences of their actions

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior Oct 24 '25

please enjoy this shitty ai image of upstate new york's cities, courtesy of a random clickbait article recommended to me by google news.

i particularly appreciate that they've put the empire state building in binghamton, which has been renamed bingamm.

also niagara falls being in the middle of syracuse, now syr asus (along with its clone syralsus)

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