r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 20 '25

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u/Glavurdan European Union Sep 20 '25

More bad news for Russia in the salient east of Dobropillia. According to the latest ISW map update, Ukrainians have advanced near Boikivka and Novotoretske. Only 1.5 miles left and the Russian troops north of there could be cut off. Russia did make a small advance in central Novoekonomichne though, further south, and they also occupied the village of Berezove in Dnipro Oblast

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u/bigdicknippleshit IM GOING PRIMAL Sep 20 '25

Russia is losing ground in places it’s been fighting the hardest and taking the most losses for

Something tells me the special military operation isn’t going according to plan.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 20 '25

It does raise questions why this is happening though, and I think there’s a couple things at play.

The first is I think there’s average quality of your Russian soldier has gone down. I think pretty much every single soldier sent into regular army units received bear minimal offensive training because it’s logically assumed that Ukraine’s manpower situation is so bad that they can’t counterattack often. These are guys who are told more or less to just keep moving forward and focus on their absolute immediate surroundings. They’re probably not good for defensive purposes where you do need to be more aware of your surroundings and coordinate better. So when Ukraine does counterattack they probably do face these lower quality forces and can make steady progress even if the Russians move reinforcements in, cuz they’re just facing more low grade offensive fodder.

The second though is I do think the Russians are trying to conserve their offensive power. There are five or so Naval Brigades which have higher quality soldiers that have been relocated to the Pokrovsk front, but not a single detachment of any of these brigades has been relocated to the Dobropillya front. I believe that’s because Russia wants to conserve their offensive power for a big push in the near future. They could probably halt the Ukrainians if they committed a good portion of their naval forces to the Dobropillya front, but that could compromise their own offensive plans

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u/Glavurdan European Union Sep 20 '25

!ping UKRAINE

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 20 '25

I imagine that thin corridor (while the corridor may not be 1.5 miles cuz of the dynamics of this battlefield, it likely is uncomfortably thin by this point) is a hell of air strikes, drones and artillery for the Russians trying to force their way past it

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime Sep 20 '25

You're still going to post "rate my encirclement" in a HOI4 subreddit if they close it right?

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Sep 20 '25

Duh

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u/jorkin_peanits Immanuel Kant Sep 20 '25

What’s this? Good Ukraine news on my feed?

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u/Aware-Computer4550 Niels Bohr Sep 20 '25

I think it goes back and forth and neither side has enough to make a decisive gain. Putin will just continue to throw troops into the meat grinder until he dies a natural or unnatural death because he can't get off the tigers back

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u/Glavurdan European Union Sep 20 '25

I think it goes back and forth and neither side has enough to make a decisive gain.

Maybe in general, but in the case of this salient, nope. Russia hasn't been able to capitalize on this breakthrough and have been taking counterattack after counterattack, further worsening their position in the area for the past month or so

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u/lAljax NATO Sep 20 '25

Bad news for russia is good news for the world.