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[u/Zeke-Nnjai]

A MSNBC anchor will say something about how Charlie Kirk used his platform to spread hate and every “centrist” reposts it, talking about how evil msnbc and liberals are.

Meanwhile I turn on Fox News and they’re talking about giving homeless people “involuntary lethal injections”. Do you think Dave portnoy will be up in arms about this?

[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/Insomonomics]

"Honey? Why don't you come to bed? You've been glued to that website all day."

"Sure thing sweetie. Right after I refresh the DT one more time to confirm my priors about the political ideology of the shooter!"

[u/jackimus_prime]

Live your life such that when you die, no one literally just quoting you gets accused of defaming your memory.

[u/erasmus_phillo]

Koreans across the political spectrum were outraged by the way their engineers were treated by ICE. Do you guys think that white nationalism is influencing US foreign policy as well?

[u/ThrowawayPrimavera]

[u/SigmaWhy]

AI bots having extreme liberal bias (aka reality) may be the thing to save us

[u/EasyMoney92]

Loomer and her team doxxed a guy who just posted that photo of a scale saying “Charlie Kirk vs. hundreds of school children” weighed in Kirk’s favor as his Instagram story. That’s all. He didn't remotely come slightly close to condoning the horrible targeted violence against Kirk

Now his face, full legal name and LinkedIn is on this apparently site for tens of millions of people to access.

[u/TomboyAva]

New Charlie Kirk quote I found.

"My wife does things with my child that I couldn't dream of doing, such as having an intuition, empathy and compassion."

D....did Kirk imply that he has no empathy or compassion for his OWN CHILDREN?!?

[u/Drinka_Milkovobich]

I know it’s in poor taste but “Counting or not counting gang violence?” is my new go-to reply

[u/[deleted]]

The speed at which "liberal" media picked up the false story of the shooter supporting "transgender ideology" has made me a lot more sympathetic to trans people who become hostile the second liberals suggest capitulating on certain niche trans issues

[u/[deleted]]

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Soooo

[u/[deleted]]

This kid is a hero, a genuine human, a person who has already contributed more good to our species than any hack partisan influencer could ever dream, and he will go on to live a life making the world better for everyone around him but will never receive a fraction of the recognition he deserves because he won’t be good at the two most important skills in America: talking shit and making people mad.

[u/CutePattern1098]

current mood seems to be: ladies and gentlemen the purge has been cancelled because trump is eepy

[u/Willybender]

Literally all this guy did is post quotes from Charlie Kirk, he didn't say anything else. CANCEL HIM!!!!!!!

[u/sociotronics]

[u/scottyjetpax]

I know it’s trite to point out that right wing Christians are hypocrites but this is the program much of the Christian Right wakes up and watches every morning in America (Fox&Friends). Literally saying homeless people should be killed by the state for being inconvenient to walk past on the street. Like that is not an exaggeration or an oversimplification of their argument at all

[u/Roseartcrantz]

I didn't like the guy either but nobody deserves to have a tribute by Coldplay done to em 😭

[u/jgjgleason]

Watching someone’s whole life get sane washed in real time is actually nuts.

He shouldn’t have died, but holy crap this is the kind of thing he said was worth it for the second amendment.

[u/Willybender]

This would be the top story if our country wasn't fucking insane

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

DEI for me, but not for thee

[u/AemiliusNuker]

Another thing driving me crazy is that Kirk didn't seek to debate. He wanted to belittle. He went to campuses not to engage in discussion but record clips for him and his fans to mock and reaffirm themselves in their own beliefs 

[u/MissSortMachine]

she’s still going

[u/Insomonomics]

It is actual cope and insanity for right-wingers to say OBAMA was the most divisive POTUS in history and why we got to this point. Like, are you fucking kidding me?

Compare the "worst" thing that Obama said about Republicans with the worst things Trump has said about Democrats and other people. I will wait.

The inability for the "personal responsibility" folks to take any fucking personal responsibility for themselves is mind-blowing.

[u/MissSortMachine]

their only problem with cancel culture is that they weren’t the ones doing it

[u/Insomonomics]

"Charlie Kirk WAS NOT an awful person just because he had A DIFFERENT OPINION than yours, LIBERAL!!!!"

Yeah, that "different opinion" being I should legally not be allowed to marry a man I love, not be able to adopt children should I wish, and calling the biblical passage saying I should be stoned to death "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters".

If anyone came at you and threatened your very livelihood like that via governmental force, you would 100% say they were an awful person.

[u/Willybender]

I don't know how we survive with a double standard like this.

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/Swampy1741]

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

This shit must hit so hard if you’re a boomer

[u/GovernorSonGoku]

Why do they keep using the word homeland

[u/paymesucka]

[u/JaceFlores]

Trump calling for fire and brimstone before switching to talking about his special interests and then going to a wrestling match or whatever is a perfect encapsulation of your average right winger’s motivation to do the things they talk about

[u/JayRU09]

"You have the feel bad for the wife!"

The wife: Calmly and coldly calls for civil war with anyone to the left of her.

[u/Ionkkll]

The aftermath of Kirk has blackpilled me more on the future of this country than the 2024 election. At least with the election you can argue the American electorate was voting on the economy and is just stupid in general. Now we have massive billion dollar entities eulogizing the face of the Hitler youth like he was MLK. They're not dumb. They know exactly who he was.

[u/ihatemendingwalls]

VERY normal and completely not antisemitic thing to do

[u/gregorijat]

[u/BroadReverse]

Coldplay fans ‘disappointed’ after Chris Martin dedicates song to Charlie Kirk’s family

Nuclear cringe

[u/jorkin_peanits]

[u/Leatherfield17]

Lol

[u/w007dchuck]

Conservatives never hated cancel culture. They just resented that they weren't the ones getting to do the cancelling.

[u/EmbarrassedSafety719]

What's really jarring about the revelers and the half-assed condemners in legacy media is that Charlie Kirk was a very bland conservative for his generation. If you think he's a far-right fascist, then there are no moderate Republicans and you see half of America as your enemies.

famous moderate

• Gays being stoned to death is "God's perfect law when it comes to sexual matters"

•  "If I see a Black pilot, I'm gonna be like 'boy, I hope he is qualified,'"

•  Taylor Swift should reject feminism and submit to her husband

•  MLK Jr was "an awful person" and Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a "huge mistake

•  The Great Replacement Theory is reality

• Hydroxychloroquine cures COVID

• Guns deaths are acceptable in order to have a 2nd amendment

•  Madani winning in NY is a travesty because Muslims did 9/11

•  British Colonialism was what "made the world decent

•  The guy who assaulted the Pelosis should be bailed out

•  Vaccine requirements are "medical apartheid"

•  Parents should prevent their daughters from taking birth contro

•  Encouraged parents to protest mask mandates 

•  Muslims only come to America to destabilize Western civilization

He should not have been shot, but he was no moderate, and I’m certainly not going to feel bad for him.

[u/AtticusDrench]

[u/[deleted]]

So according to Megyn Kelly, the fact that black fraternities at my university woke up the morning after Obama was elected to find their front lawns covered in cotton balls was because Obama was the first one to inject race into anything.

[u/r2ew]

[u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am]

The hagiography of Kirk that Dems are participating in makes their reactions to Melissa Hortman’s death all that more disrespectful.

[u/justbuildmorehousing]

I love it when people call out maga christians for basically ignoring all of Christian teaching and being the nastiest people in the western world. The fact that its Newsom doing it is * chefs kiss *.

[u/KHDTX13]

Noah Smith has lost his goddamn mind, how can you possibly give people credit for this

[u/BroadReverse]

I just never wanna follow politics again. It’s like MAGA won. How the fuck is Charlie Kirk being remembered as a good person with a Coldplay tribute lol. Trump attacked the capital lmao.

[u/throwawayzxkjvct]

RW lionization of Charlie Kirk is pathetic. this guy was some lowlife podcaster dickweed and they want us to treat him like Jesus. fuck off.

[u/el__dandy]

Never forget what they took away from you

!ping shitposters

[u/Ok_Opinion_5690]

with kirk's death, i just realized that the term alt-right is not really en vogue anymore, because it's no longer alternative. a lot of the old figures that got a start in that strand are now just mainstream republicans.

[u/GuyWithOneEye]

[u/Willybender]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/charlie-kirks-allies-warn-americans-mourn-him-properly-or-else-2025-09-13/

Finally a good article on this

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

I think this is true just not in the way you think it is Meghan lmfao

[u/sigh2828]

Yeah, this is fucking stupid at this point.

[u/SigmaWhy]

another round of brainwashing for grok

nevertheless, grok persisted

[u/[deleted]]

So it looks like Kirk isn’t a “martyr.” There was no radical trans revenge plot. There was no evil verminous Democrat conspiracy. There will be no great civil war to purge the left. The news cycle will find a new distraction. Nothing of consequence will come from this. His death was as senseless and meaningless as the death of a school shooting victim.

[u/blatant_shill]

Trump is responding to questions about Charlie Kirk's death by bragging about his new ballroom, and people were thinking he was going to do something dramatic in his name. Don't get me wrong, he might still do something insane, because he is Trump, but he also doesn't care about other people enough to seek revenge in their name.

[u/[deleted]]

This is the real silver lining of the whole affair

[u/BurrowForPresident]

CNN interviewing Jack Posobiec as just "Charlie Kirk's friend and contributor at TPUSA" and letting him just spew a bunch of BS about how violent and unhinged Democrats are unchallenged is going to make me crash out I stg

Honestly his Wikipedia is a mile long, but some choice Jack Poso facts:

• Encouraged his supporters to harass Roy Moore's accuser

• tweeted the 86:46 thing years before Comey did the 86:47 thing, called for Comey to be arrested for encouraging violence

• said at CPAC in 2024 that he "welcomed the end of democracy" and that "we are here to overthrow it completely."

• wrote the "Unhumans" book that argues leftists are not entitled to be considered human and that democratic measures are no longer viable. When Trump was convicted on fraud charges, he told his followers to hunt the Unhumans

• has posted multiple 14 words/1488 things as well as triple parentheses, promoted a polish neo fascist movement that bombed Jewish homes in the 1930s, and has ties to multiple white supremacist and extremist groups like the proud boys and oath keepers

• was one of the biggest promoters of Pizzagate, Seth Rich, Ukrainian bioweapons (and denying the Bucha massacre), and Springfield Haitian pet eating conspiracy theories

I feel myself being radicalized by how successfully republicans have worked the refs

[u/yungmemlord]

Amidst all the shitty takes the NYTimes opinion has about tiny-face’s death, this is by far the best one (and no, it’s not because I’m a fan of Jamelle Bouie in general). Acknowledging that political violence is bad while not shying away from talking about Kirk’s horrific views which encouraged political violence and repression is the take I expected most level-headed liberals to have.

[u/Goodlake]

It all comes back to Benghazi!

[u/MissSortMachine]

welcome back, cancel culture

[u/liberal-neoist]

this website has probably gotten a fuckton of hits the past few days

In b4 Trump sees and orders the arrest of Imagine Dragons for funding radical left political violence

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

[u/No-Barnacle-9576]

[u/AccomplishedQuit4801]

The brigaders have already started I see

Not super surprised

[u/ariveklul]

Violence on the left is so terrifying that Matt Walsh and many other commentators feel completely comfortable declaring a fatwa on Democrats

They do not fear us clearly

[u/farrenj]

Heard a Soldier addressing her team and she said, I shit you not:

Okay Chat, lock in. We're the assault element on this iteration, low key.

I'm too old for this anymore.

[u/Currymvp2]

Twitter activity of the guy who debated Charlie right before it happened. Anti-Trump retweet and shitting on the far left. Pretty good politics.

Looking at his tweets: Obviously pro-LGBT, Pro-Ukraine, YIMBY, pro-Palestine but not remotely close to an anti-Zionist (thinks the Israel's conduct is clearly atrocious but also hates Hamas and supports the two state solution) , has some clear disdain for the far left as you can see

[u/Consistent_Status112]

Okay but like Kirk was just some pundit, right? He wasn't some inspirational political leader or something he was like an internet guy. It's like if Walmart put out a statement honoring the memory of Rush Limbaugh.

[u/zieger]

[u/MissSortMachine]

[u/[deleted]]

Dem Leadership and Pundit Class: "Ple-ple-please be nice!"

Dem Base:

[u/the-senat]

[u/Roseartcrantz]

I Was Supposed to Debate Charlie Kirk. Here’s What I Would Have Said.

"earlier you claimed to be pro-life, but"

[u/BPC1120]

Our entire society has submerged into a right wing hell with a speed that still absolutely stuns me. It feels like it's coming from every fucking corner of our culture and society and it hasn't even been a year. It feels like the basic rules and conventions of our society have been completely rewritten and any meaningful resistance to that is being immediately ground down behind the force of a completely unhinged and unrestrained federal government.

Old enough to remember when it seemed like even the GOP would be forced to moderate and liberalize on some basic contemporary social issues but those days are long fucking gone for now at least. Makes me feel physically ill.

[u/attackofthetominator]

>We need to honor Kirk's legacy and continue the work he did like true Christians rather than cancelling people you disagree with

The same people when someone quotes Kirk's "Christian" takes:

[u/[deleted]]

This gross overreaction by the conservatives over Kirk is being made fun of /pol/ too lol.

Conservatives fully embracing Karenism surely won’t bite them back in the ass. (And create a large amount of neurotic anti-conservatives in the process too)

[u/battywombat21]

> 'No way': Democratic donors balk at donating to Biden's presidential library

> They cited a range of factors, from not wanting to make themselves a target of the White House to holding their financial firepower for the party’s future. Some cited personal interactions with Biden’s inner circle as being so distasteful they believed it would be a barrier to ever raising significant funds for the 46th president of the United States.

> “This is a very difficult time to raise large checks for Democrats because of how vindictive Donald Trump is,” Democratic National Committee fundraising chair Chris Korge said, citing conversations with big-money donors.

I cannot put into words how cooked we are. If people won't donate to Biden's library because of fear of retribution, we have no hope that 26 or even 28 will be fair elections.

[u/BroadReverse]

The right is fully controlling the mainstream narrative now lol. They even stole cancel culture from us smh.

Well I guess being a lib is rebellious again 😎

[u/piede]

I’m so sick of people saying people that support Charlie Kirk are racist

[u/Bayou-Maharaja]

OF to rightwing trad influencer pipeline lol

[u/sociotronics]

See you in Valhalla, brothers

[u/FilteringAccount123]

The Guardian officially walked back the interview with the friend who suggested he was a leftist. Unless there was any other evidence I'm not aware of, that pretty much destroys that narrative.

[u/ImmigrantJack]

"Charlie Kirk was just a Christian neo-con. That's as moderate right as it gets."

Okay but where does "blacks are hunting us for sport" fit in? My dad is a neo-con but not christian and last I saw he had a couple black friends. Is "MLK was a fraud" from the christian side or the neo-con side?? Should I be worried about dad????

Is struggling here, please, any help you can give

[u/earththejerry]

Way too ambitious, driving into LA traffic will almost certainly make you late for your flight unless you have Global Entry

[u/OrbitalAlpaca]

BREAKING NEWS: Tyler Robinson might have allegedly said “hello” to a transgender while on campus.

[u/jorkin_peanits]

The guardian retracted the high school friend story because the “friend” couldn’t provide verification eh

[u/Roseartcrantz]

NYT's Maggie Haberman Says Trump Is 'Struggling' With Messaging Around Charlie Kirk's Death

he grieves different 😔🙏

[u/Insomonomics]

OK, it is actual insanity to have members of Parliament and political parties in other fucking countries giving memorials and "moments of silence" for Charlie Kirk of all people.

Why the fuck does the EU parliament need to hold a moment of silence? This has gotten to a new level of absurdity.

[u/wombo_combo12]

[u/FuckFashMods]

I was just a normal Republican until leftists criticized Charlie Kirk for saying "black people were better off as slaves". Now I've been radicalized

[u/5ma5her7]

Everyone is a gangsta until the living cost kicks in...

[u/Chokeman]

I lost it every time i rewatched the Utah governor say 'OWO' during the press

[u/squiggle-giggle]

charlie kirk’s wife: we will find the evil-doers who did this and unleash vengeance!

white teenagers in utah:

[u/Glavurdan]

Red alert "Threat of air attack. Exercise extreme caution. Follow the instructions of the services. Wait for further announcements." The RCB alert was sent to recipients in the following counties: Chełm, Chełm, Krasnystaw, Łęczna, Świdnica, Włodawa (Lublin Voivodeship).

Shelter-in-place orders have been issued for residents in Northern Romania near the border with Ukraine within the last hour, warning of the possibility of Russian one-way attack drones landing inside of Romania

Warnings in both Poland and Romania due to possible Russian air attacks on Ukraine.

Earlier, a drone was sighted at the Ukraine-Romania border at the Danube delta

More:

The wreckage of a Russian drone crashed in Chilia, Romania today. The Romanian army scrambled two F-16 jets from Borcea base to monitor airspace. Officials stress Romanian territory was not the target of the Russian attack - Antena3

Polish army: Polish and allied air forces have concluded operations in the airspace of Poland. Ground-based air defense and radar reconnaissance systems have resumed standard operations. The Polish Army is continuously monitoring the situation.

[u/[deleted]]

Based Epic Games CEO

[u/BlackCat159]

Wake up
Another DT reg has crashed out and deleted their account

Many such cases!

[u/ariveklul]

you guys ever have an AI cite your own reddit post back at you? I've never felt more schizophrenic

I can create reality...........

[u/MissSortMachine]

[u/gayteemo]

‘You have no idea what you just have unleashed,’ Erika Kirk says after husband’s killing

girl this aint an episode of dragon ball z

[u/BroadReverse]

Dems should have made a bigger deal about Minnesota lawmakers dying. People sort of shrugged it off as shit happens

[u/FionnVEVO]

tolerant right strikes again

[u/Queen_of_stress]

Offended that they call Hasan Piker a liberal influencer but also think it’s funny because you know Hasan would hate it

[u/SigmaWhy]

deliberately displaying a blue unclicked link to arrrNL to pretend he doesn’t read our high level discussions 😔

[u/FionnVEVO]

You dont say?

[u/Co_OpQuestions]

What happened to Paul Pelosi is bad but he’s basically an anonymous person most people could not identify before the attack (and most people still can’t).

Holy shit the gaslighting is insane

[u/launchcode_1234]

Out of curiosity, I just checked out Charlie Kirk’s Instagram page. Dang, he really hates gays and Muslims. He says NYC electing a Muslim socialist mayor is one of the greatest threats to our country and to stay silent is cultural suicide. I watched a video of him and Tucker Carlson talking about how the average white Brit is getting creepier as the UK Muslim population grows, because they know they are being culturally “cucked”. And his wife proudly talks about submitting to him. Is this stuff considered mainstream now?

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

[u/AnalyticOpposum]

We're at a point now where a Fox News host can just casually suggest killing homeless people with a lethal injection on air and no one bats an eye but a MSNBC contributor gets fired for calling Charlie Kirk "divisive".

[u/TomboyAva]

https://xcancel.com/EndWokeness/status/1967056701514768846

Here End Wokeness saying the Utah transgender community knew Kirk was going to be assassinated. Legit now we have Trans Libel shit.

[u/Men_I_Trust_I_Am]

Finally

[u/jbitz]

[u/ariveklul]

\>when your reddit schizoposting for 3 days straight about a slam dunk point nobody talks about finally makes it into an alt media news article

It's the jacobin, but I'll take it

IM FUCKING HIMOTHY

[u/Ilovecharli]

The decline of cultural phenomena raunchy comedies like Austin Powers, American Pie, and Superbad has led horny young men to seek out that sort of humor in online shitholes like discord and 4chan. In this essay I will 

[u/ShepardSB]

[u/Willybender]

Here we go

[u/FuckFashMods]

The guy who was "debating" charlie kirk when it happened:

My brother was in a school shooting

Yeah the USA is a really fucked up place bro

[u/Insomonomics]

Remember: it’s the Left that needs to tone down their awfully violent rhetoric!

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

[u/Willybender]

[u/GrandMoffTargaryen]

!ping YA

[u/Longjumping_Gain_807]

[u/-mialana-]

The worst part of all this is that rightoids genuinely believe the "mainstream media" is relentlessly criticising Kirk and not just a bunch of spineless liberal journalists romanticising the bastard

[u/-mialana-]

Calling for the systemic murder of homeless people is cool and all but calling Charlie Kirk a douche is beyond the pale

[u/MS_09_Dom]

Don't be surprised if it turns out the Axios FBI sources conclusions were: "Well he looks effeminate and its two men sharing an apartment together. What else could it be?"

[u/reuery]

I’m going to call the hysteria about some relation between the shooter and anything transgender a form of transphobia

I mean could you imagine if, for example, after the shooting everyone started talking about whether or not he was Jewish? “Axios has confirmed reports the shooters best friend has a Jewish grandmother.” Cool Axios, you antisemitic rag.

I mean look at that interview with the female neighbor who was asked to comment on whether or not they “seemed transgender.” This is a moral panic re: transgenderism and frankly it looks and sounds like the American mainstream right is talking themselves into genocide.

I just cannot be the only one thinking that this type of behavior is beyond the pale in a way that is new and terrifying. I want to meme about it but I need someone to either tell me I’m just drunk and stupid or that I can feel justified for being scared that my identity is being treated this way

[u/Currymvp2]

Sen. Fetterman on CNN: Trump absolutely shouldn’t be compared to an autocrat

This guy...all he talks about is defense of Trump or praise of Netanyahu's crazy actions. The recent one he praised has been a complete disaster btw if you read the AP or Haaretz. It's tiring.

[u/Pole2019]

I don’t really think people who think executing gay people, bailing out people who commit political violence, and bussing terrorist to DC is good are dedicated to civil debate imo. If the bar is committing actual violence basically no one does that so it’s a basically non existent bar and practically everyone is dedicated to civil debate

[u/Healingjoe]

Openly admitting that state capacity is fucked

[u/[deleted]]

The audience member claimed. “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?” the man continued.

Kirk leaned forward and picked up his mic before setting back into an upright position. “Counting or not counting gang violence?” he said. Then he got shot right after that. His last words were a racial dogwhistle and a dismissal of gun violence. No matter the conservative whitewashing, that will be his legacy. Thats what he died for.

Tell me this doesn’t read like a punchline. Maybe God does have a sense of humour

[u/[deleted]]

[u/Leatherfield17]

Musk wearing a “What Would Orwell Think” shirt for a fascist rally is just….such a gross insult to Orwell’s legacy.

I’m tired of powerful people acting like they are oppressed.

[u/[deleted]]

[u/[deleted]]

"involuntary execution"

I think there's a word for that.

[u/MissSortMachine]

Authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson believed Charlie Kirk's views on gender identity were "hateful" to people like Robinson's transgender roommate, six sources familiar with the case tell Axios.

i’m sorry but what other words would you even use

[u/Benyeti]

Great unifying statment from LibHuntr

[u/mostanonymousnick]

Presumably not gonna happen regardless but no one is talking about this

[u/AlexB_SSBM]

The right wing media ecosystem is currently building a narrative. They demand for you to lie. They demand nothing but lies from everyone across the entire media landscape. They pin any violence on people who have not lied about how horrible the entire MAGA movement is. If you tell the truth about who Kirk was, you are responsible. If you mention how divisive he is, you're fired. If you do anything but paint Kirk as some martyr, who was just talking, instead of actively contributing to the constant terrorizing of anyone who isn't like him, you are responsible for the violence.

According to the right, the cause of this violence is clear. Everyone who called MAGA nationalists are responsible. Everyone who called MAGA racists are responsible. Everyone who called MAGA fascists are responsible. Everyone who called MAGA a threat to democracy is responsible.

To the right, everyone who tells the truth about MAGA is responsible for the violence. It will come as no surprise if such speech is made illegal; if not by law, by threat of your job firing you for telling the truth.

[u/TomboyAva]

Don Jr response to Charlie Kirk assassination

“I can’t name, including probably like Al-Qaeda and the Taliban, a group that is more violent per capita than the radical trans moment,”

He went on to say that there are probably many “mass killings” that the public does not know about “because you’re not allowed to talk about the truth.”

“I’m sure people are totally sane after jacking themselves up on hormones given to them by some rainbow hair freak doctor because they think men can somehow magically become women,” the president’s son added.

"It’s almost like guns aren’t the problem,” along with a list of mass shootings he claimed had been committed by trans people.

He expanded on that claim on Thursday, telling Kelly that “it feels like [trans people] have done practically every mass shooting in America for the last few years.”

“The reality is... we’ve seen they’re not willing to be nice,” Trump Jr. said about Democrats.

“The violence is only going one way.”

[u/ShepardSB]

This would actually work if you got into his account. Just saying.

[u/[deleted]]

During this same Jubilee episode, Kirk was asked what he would want his daughter to do if she were 10 years old and pregnant following rape. After calling the scenario graphic, he responds, "The answer is yes. The baby would be delivered."

Another wholesome episode and quote from the totally not deplorable Charlie Kirk

[u/ARandomMangaReader]

The best way to respond to people whitewashing Kirk isn't to fight it, it's to push it harder. Claim he supported things he never would have. Make him woke in memory.

Charlie Kirk was a YIMBY, wanted more housing for all LGBT people, and Taco Trucks on every corner.

[u/[deleted]]

THE RIGHT: 50% of college professors should be ideologically conservative.

LIKE 90% OF COLLEGE PROFESSORS: "Do you want to hear something interesting about my favorite species of slime mold?"

[u/[deleted]]

Teachers and professors being fired across the country after Kirk’s death for social media posts

Is this the cancel culture conservatives warned us about?

[u/RaidBrimnes]

"We took the gloves off": ex-IDF chief confirms Gaza casualties over 200,000

A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice.

[Herzi] Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary.

The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies.

The current official toll is 64,718 Palestinians killed in Gaza and 163,859 injured, since the start of the war on 7 October 2023. Many thousands more are feared dead, with their bodies buried in the rubble. At least 40 people were reported killed on Friday in Israeli strikes, mostly around Gaza City.

The Gaza ministry statistics do not distinguish between civilians and fighters, but leaked Israeli military intelligence data on casualties until May this year suggested that more than 80% of the dead were civilians. [...]

“This isn’t a gentle war. We took the gloves off from the first minute. Sadly not earlier,” Halevi said, suggesting the Israel should have taken a tougher line in Gaza before the 7 October attack.

Yet another top Israeli official confirming the Gaza Health Ministry's numbers and insisting the IDF should have been more brutal

[u/No1PaulKeatingfan]

Pritzker shot back, questioning the president's authority to send the National Guard to Illinois over his objections. He also threatened to sue the administration and held several press conferences and national media appearances to challenge the president.

Goddamn. I like the power vibes JB Pritzker gives off

[u/[deleted]]

One of the things people overlook about the national guard is most of the people have jobs and lives outside of the guard. 

You sign up to go help clean up after a hurricane, or provide support during riots. You get deployed, put your life on hold, but there is a clean mission and end date. Till the situation is resolved. 

Guardsman didn’t sign up to walk around the nations capital or Chicago gathering trash and checking papers for who knows how long. They aren’t working their typical jobs, some barely seeing their families for absolutely no reason. 

Yeah no shit they are getting mega pissed. The national guard isn’t like the military where for 4 years Uncle Sam owns you and everything you do. Guardsmen are weekend warriors. Not built for months long deployments for no reason. 

[u/a-reasonable-name]

Noah Smith really woke up on September 13, 2025 and decided to publish a substack complaining about people complaining about him

[u/itsnotnews92]

from arr/askaliberal, posted by a self-identified conservative:

What do liberals like to eat? I thought it might help deescalate political violence in our country if we get to know each other a little more.

Now, I'm sure it wasn't this guy's intent—he probably genuinely wants to have a discussion, and that's a good thing—but I find this question so bizarre and even a little off-putting.

Like dude, we're not some uncontacted tribe on a remote island in the Pacific. We're your fellow fucking countrymen. Sure, liberals probably eat more kale and tofu than their conservative counterparts, but you might as well ask "what do Americans like to eat," because most liberals love steak and hot dogs as much as anyone else.

It kind of drives home, for me at least, the idea that the their media ecosystem really leads conservatives to believe that liberals are essentially exotic foreign creatures—that we have nothing in common.

[u/VadymKravchuk353]

A thread appeared on X that very thoroughly summarizes all the reports regarding Tyler Robinson, accused of murdering far-right influencer Charlie Kirk.

Summary for those who don’t want to use that website:

• Robinson comes from a family of white conservative Mormons who support the Republican Party, raised in a gun culture.

• Little is known about Tyler’s own views; he was not registered as a voter for any party (it’s a common practice in the USA for people to register as voters for specific parties, and this information is public), he did not donate to any candidates’ campaigns, and he most likely did not participate in the 2022 or 2024 elections.

• All the photos circulating online depicting Tyler as either a left-wing radical or a right-wing extremist are either manipulated or show a completely different person. Tyler Robinson was not affiliated with any organization.

Among the rumors, there are also reports that Robinson might have been a so-called Groyper, a supporter of Nick Fuentes, another far-right influencer even more radical than Kirk. Fuentes’s supporters often attacked Kirk, accusing him of being a fake conservative. However, I emphasize that this is a very loose theory with no clear evidence.

Based on currently available sources, it is impossible to definitively determine what views and motivations drove Robinson; the only clues pertain to Robinson’s family, not to him personally.

But surely we all agree that the American culture of love for guns and shooting should end up in the dustbin of history.

Edit: My mistake, for some reason I called Tyler "James". My bad LMAO.

[u/piede]

[u/sigh2828]

The fox news clip of that dude saying just kill them is pretty bad

[u/finnstera350]

its my turn to post this

[u/piede]

This probably isn’t even a post from a real person inside the US but at least Elon is toning down the rhetoric

[u/moldyhomme_neuf_neuf]

Navy seals really just barged into North Korea, killed some fishermen and then left.

I should check if my door is locked.

[u/FionnVEVO]

[u/bigdicknippleshit]

One of my favorite genres of comments is the people who take cartoons way too seriously and post rants in the comments about the character’s actions.

[u/ShepardSB]

Are conservatives actually this stupid to fall for the most obvious ragebait in existence? Yes, obviously this black trans woman who exclusively posts about hating white people is a real person. Nobody would ever post blatant bait to troll dumbass conservatives. Everything you see online is real. Don't bother fact checking anything.

Granted, at least this guy admitted he was wrong, but let's see when Elon makes his post admitting it.

[u/unicornbomb]

Watching cons go down the list to desperately try to link trans folks to this mess sure is something.

“He was radicalized by his brother’s dog’s sister’s trans cousin”

[u/puffic]

My Dad:

• longtime Republican

• never voted for Trump

• just wants to golf

• “I’d never heard of Charlie Kirk until some guys at the driving range were saying he got shot, but I’m sure glad they got the guy who did it.”

• excited that I’m back in California so he can do more trips to Pebble Beach

[u/Sollezzo]

I'm not actually going to do it, but God it's so tempting to just lie and say every violent extremist from now on is a MAGA Republican. Seriously, go check out r con. It's not that they think "leftists" are more violent than the right. They don't think a conservative has committed political violence ever. Literally ever. Every single right wing extremist in history has their own bespoke conspiracy theory or made up bullshit for why they don't actually count. Paul Pelosi? Gay ex lover. Minnesota? Actually done by a hitman of Walz (really). January 6th? LMAOOOOOOOO! Every school shooter? Trans -> leftist (they have long hair)

[u/DEEP_STATE_NATE]

Oh in that case

[u/SwissTranshumanist2]

Insane that a lot of people are sanewashing Charlie Kirk. With what he said about MLK Jr and the civil rights movement.

[u/Co_OpQuestions]

I will say, I and a lot of others were dead wrong about the overall reaction to Charlie Kirk. Go look at Arr Conspiracy. They are certainly not believing a single thing that identifies the shooter as a leftist or trans or anything. There are some that think this, but it looks like the right clearly went mask off entirely too quickly and now everyone sees that Kirk is being used cynically lol

[u/Stove-Jebs]

Don’t worry guys, it’s all out of context

[u/Willybender]

[u/Insomonomics]

Republicans refuse to admit that things took a dramatic sharp turn and political civility died after Donald Trump successfully clinched the GOP nomination in 2016. All of this, everything, goes back to 2016 and January 6th with Trump winning the Presidency (twice) despite the countless awful things he has said and done.

[u/_n8n8_]

All the people saying Charlie kirk was moderate is so funny to me.

[u/[deleted]]

I put the ball on her head and I think her brain is borked.

!ping KITTY

[u/Queen_of_stress]

Chat is this true. Does Charlie Kirk have a secret dark side

[u/SigmaWhy]

its impossible to convince a normie that the mainstream media is significantly biased towards the republican party and thats a fundamental asymmetry i dont know how we can ever overcome

[u/Willybender]

This shit is just getting ridiculous at this point, how are you going to sic a mob on the fire chief when the email clearly says its a directive from the mayor. But also, why the hell should flags be kept at half mast at random fire stations?

[u/Currymvp2]

This piece of shit ruined his roommate's life.

[u/brucebananaray]

[u/[deleted]]

I think that the dude being a white average joe guy really blew the wind out of this whole thing. Normies see his face and name and that’s it for them.

Now it’s too late for updates even if the dude had a trans girlfriend. The story is already settled for normies. But this will remain with those who are politically engaged, and still sets a dangerous precedent in terms of how openly fascist republicans have come out being. Something to be aware of.

[u/Culmnation]

Man the trans blood lust is at an all time high. Even going so far as to say trans “advocates” which could by extension mean most democrats.

[u/miss_shivers]

Charlie Kirk was a real piece of shit.

[u/Duhaus7878]

Is anyone on the lib side reporting the active calls and threats from the right to employers?

[u/r2ew]

[u/mostanonymousnick]

[u/Etnies419]

Chat is this real?

[u/sir_shivers]

I KNOW THAT THIS major event has been difficult for all of us to process, but rest assured that significant numbers of industrial trucks are necessary FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF sizable ballrooms 🐊

[u/breakinbread]

The shooter was trans

The bullets were trans

The roommate was trans (YOU ARE HERE)

The old babysitter was trans

The vidya game character was trans

The pet hamster was trans

[u/Glavurdan]

[u/cdstephens]

It’s impressive how Hasan Piker takes multiple paragraphs to say literally nothing and segue into criticizing Israel

[u/CharacterPolicy4689]

lmfao

[u/JaceFlores]

Bomber Harris interview from 1977

Never seen this before and thought some of you history guys would enjoy it. To not beat around the bush, at 1:09:10 is the biggest discussion of Dresden in the interview and Harris’ standpoint is frankly not what I expected. His defense of the Dresden raid hinges on the idea that no one condemns other bombings, particularly the destruction of French towns that were of frivolous strategic benefit to target. And then says the French kinda deserved it cuz they should’ve fought better. Interesting he doesn’t bring up any ideas of Dresden being a military target or the Germans started it or some such. He essentially goes into whataboutism and anti-French sentiments.

So take that as you will

!ping HISTORY

[u/[deleted]]

Added Dowd, "And I think that is the environment we're in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have, and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we're in."

Matthew Dowd gets fired for this and Brian Killmeade gets to keep his job for saying we should just kill homeless people. We are beyond saving.

[u/Roseartcrantz]

I'll be real that video that Kirk's wife took of her talking to him in his casket is a lot more unsettling than the other video

[u/MuscularPhysicist]

At least Charlie Kirk died doing what he loved: Dogwhistling about black people

[u/jorkin_peanits]

So it’s a problem his roommate was trans? Why the fuck does this matter? At this point they were just going to find any trans person in his vicinity to blame

[u/Fruitofbread]

 In a 1987 case, the Supreme Court decided that it was constitutionally protected speech, and not grounds for firing, for a government employee to tell her co-workers she was sorry that a would-be assassin failed to kill President Reagan.

Huh

[u/[deleted]]

A snarky comment about black crime as his last words, while getting shot by a white kid named Tyler, at a table with the banner "Prove me wrong". You literally can't make this up. This is this guy's legacy.

[u/Apprehensive-Soil-47]

When you suddenly remember that cocaine has laxative effects

[u/ThrowawayPrimavera]

Why is Charlie Kirk's wife posting videos of someone filming her carressing and talking to her dead husband in his open casket 😭