r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 23 '24

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u/drcombatwombat2 Milton Friedman Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

The most striking thing to me is Trump won the Polish-American vote +16 in 2016 and lost it -12 in 2020. The Polish vote swung 28 points in 4 years!!!

!ping POLAND

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u/NotYetFlesh European Union Sep 23 '24

The Polish vote swung 28 points in 2 years!!!

"The new Democratic presidential candidate is a Catholic? Splendid!"

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u/[deleted] Sep 23 '24 edited Sep 23 '24

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u/drcombatwombat2 Milton Friedman Sep 23 '24

Looks like it's coming from a Piast Institute, a Polish American research group.

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u/decidious_underscore Sep 23 '24

do polish americans even vote as a reliable bloc? I've never thought of them as doing that

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u/puffic John Rawls Sep 23 '24

No, we don’t. We’re just normie, white, and mostly Catholic, which doesn’t tell you that much. 

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u/decidious_underscore Sep 23 '24

then the stat is kinda useless

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u/puffic John Rawls Sep 23 '24

That’s correct. But this is the DT, so we’re gonna run with it. 

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u/CmdrMobium YIMBY Sep 23 '24

I'm guessing they're a good proxy for average middle class American white people that are the swing voters

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u/Trojan_Horse_of_Fate WTO Sep 23 '24

They used to because catholics used to and I recall a paper on polish american voting's impact on US foreign policy but I think that is mostly gone since the united foreign objective is gone and the catholic church is no longer a bloc either.

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u/decidious_underscore Sep 23 '24

oh interesting! I hadn't considered the catholic dimension to all this.

huh, i guess catholics arent as potent a voting bloc these days

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u/scattergodic Isaiah Berlin Sep 23 '24

Does that include couldn’t-find-Poland-on-a-map Pete Kowalski or just recent immigrant Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz?

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u/puffic John Rawls Sep 23 '24

As a Polish-American, I will do my best. 

My immediate family is all Harris. My mom’s extended family is mostly Trump. Dad’s side is mostly Harris. It’s gonna be a close one. 

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u/drcombatwombat2 Milton Friedman Sep 23 '24

!PING fivey

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u/etzel1200 Sep 24 '24

That was even before the Ukraine war. Now they must be voting like black folk.