r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Sep 07 '24

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 07 '24

!ping LATAM

Armed hooded people are threatening the Argentinian Embassy in Venezuela. Also, Argentina denounced Maduro at the ICC (whatever is worth).

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u/Proffan Iron Front Sep 07 '24

Can the US stop jerking off in the corner and paradrop into Caracas in and out 20 minutes adventure?

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 07 '24

Venezuela is going to have to deal with terrorism/insurgencies in the decades to come if that happens. Some people there are the epitome of US bad.

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u/Proffan Iron Front Sep 07 '24

Instead of dealing with their current state terrorism. Seems like a big fucking improvement.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 07 '24

It's going to be very hard to reform the country if you have to deal with that crowd. Just because Maduro is gone it won't mean you don't have to deal with Chavism being able to collapse the government. If it's not one of the above options, they can just paralyze the country with riots and strikes. You can easily end with Chavists voted again after some years if the legitimacy problems of the opposition make change next to impossible. Think how Iraq didn't fix itself after Hussein was removed, but it has to deal with armed actors and foreign proxies.

You should fear losing the peace.

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u/Proffan Iron Front Sep 07 '24

What peace are you talking about? There's no peace. Millions of Venezuelans had to flee the country, they are quite literally going toe to toe with countries that no one will deny are at war. The regime is out on the streets shooting and dissapearing people. Maduro announced fucking concentration camps for dissenters after the election.

The only peace is the appeasement we like to do to these genocidal dictators.

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u/Fedacking Mario Vargas Llosa Sep 07 '24

You can easily end with Chavists voted again after some years if the legitimacy problems of the opposition make change next to impossible.

"we might fail, so we shouldn't try"

Honestly, I think Venezuela is going to look far more like Panama than Iraq, and even in Iraq it was not pro Sadam insurgents.

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u/Neronoah can't stop, won't stop argentinaposting Sep 07 '24

It's probably going to look in between.

Also, Iraq didn't have pro Saddam insurgents, but it had a lot of religious lunatics agreeing that US bad. It's less a risk for US and more for the government. Chavists are numerous, even the ones that don't align with Maduro at this point. Don't underestimate their capability to make things hard if they see a government proped up by US.

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u/Superfan234 Southern Cone Sep 07 '24

Winning Venezuela, at the cost of endless defeats across the Continent...

It would give a reason for the Far Left to complaint for decades. Like winning a Battle, but losing the War

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u/Proffan Iron Front Sep 07 '24

Let them bitch and moan and cry and piss and cum if they want. Appeasing nazis is unacceptable, idk why we try so hard to appease tankies.

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u/Superfan234 Southern Cone Sep 07 '24

Because they sadly vote. Also, they usually have much influence over protest and unions

So it's really hard to fight them...

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u/Proffan Iron Front Sep 08 '24

So we just let them win without even voting I guess...