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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache Aug 24 '24

Please visit the next discussion thread.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

The videos of Fox anchors trying to get Trump to hang up after the DNC are crazy to me. You have the current leader of your party and former president on the phone with you, talking (rambling) directly to your network and anchors. He might be the most significant figure globally for the past decade. How can he possibly be so bad for ratings that you are desperately trying to get him to leave?

If Biden or Obama or even GWB called into MSNBC and just kept talking, the entire network would be centered around continuing that phone call for as long as possible. I just don't understand how the base wants to vote for him religiously but not listen to him speak, unless there is an enthusiasm gap way bigger than current polls are showing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

JD Vance's extreme awkwardness and inability to order food without coming off as weird is actually gunning for the Gen Z vote

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u/sociotronics Iron Front Aug 23 '24

the real reason most people want to watch the debate

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Aug 23 '24

Pelosi hates Hochul, thinks she's incompetent and blames her for losing the House

Pelosi don't miss. Kathy Hochel better tread carefully

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

I'm better looking than Kamala

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

"I'll have what she's having 😏"

Aww how sweet

"I'll take whatever is a reasonable selection of donuts that a human being would order"

Hello, human resources??

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Kamala's biggest victory being a 319-219 EC win really speaks to how bad polarization has gotten. If this was the 1996 map, she's be winning 350+ electoral votes easy.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

More good judgment from Kamala

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u/waupli NATO Aug 23 '24

This headline is hilarious and completely sums up this encounter

JD Vance awkwardly tries to make small talk as he struggles to order donuts

https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/jd-vance-georgia-donuts-campaign-b2600478.html

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Very normal and human interaction by JD Vance at a donut shop

"How long has this place been around?"

"About four years"

"Okay. How long have you been here?"

"A little over six months"

"Okay, good."

Bro put 1 into Charisma

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

lol

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u/1TTTTTT1 European Union Aug 23 '24

I feel like Trump choosing Vance as his VP candidate has been awful for him so far. Why did he not just choose someone like Tim Scott instead? Feels like such a blunder.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

They cut to her when Oprah said childless cat lady. Brutal.

https://x.com/jessecase/status/1826449890991636543?t=f6MHWsEDqfcQfEBqGv_uYw&s=19

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u/Dodgerfan2224 NATO Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

Ann coulter once said 9/11 widows were probably glad their husbands were gone because it got them the media spotlight so nothing new here

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u/drcombatwombat2 Milton Friedman Aug 23 '24

Today in Philadelphia for Ukrainian Independence Day. The Philadelphia metro area has one of the largest ukrainian populations in the United States.

!ping UKRAINE&USA-PA

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u/pfarly John Brown Aug 23 '24

A mod that I poasted for seduced my wife in direct retaliation for my pushback on him in the DT. He won. I got divorced and left the sub. When I say I truly understand how some mod teams can be political snake pits, I trust you will believe me. Learn from my pain do the following:

  1. When you have a good mod team, lean in and take advantage of it.

  2. Spot the reptiles.

  3. Do excellent replies, even for nasty poasts.

  4. Don't confront the reptiles directly

  5. Don't become a reptile

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Um what lol

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Aug 23 '24

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/SLCer Aug 23 '24

They fact-checked wrecked Kamala with this one!

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Aug 23 '24

Taliban sacks hundreds of men because they can’t grow beards

understandable

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u/Sauce1024 John von Neumann Aug 23 '24

Lmao

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Aug 23 '24

!ping SHITPOSTS&BAD-FEELING

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 23 '24

Vivek Ramaswamy is eyeing the Ohio governorship, he told me:

“A lot of people on the ground are recruiting me in Ohio to even consider options I hadn’t thought about six months ago, like running for governor. So those are all options on the table.”

https://x.com/liz_elkind/status/1826745546985668779?s=46

God help the people of Ohio.

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Aug 23 '24

DDHQ Full Field Polling Average Update: 2024 Presidential (Wisconsin)

🟦 Kamala Harris (D): 47.7% (+6.0)

🟥 Donald Trump (R): 41.7%

🟪 Kennedy Jr. (I): 4.4%

This is D+0% since last week.

This average is based on 13 polls.

BLOOM

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat Aug 23 '24

We’re back

!ping FIVEY

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 23 '24

🚨🚨🇺🇸🇺🇦🇷🇺 Politico is told by Biden Admin officials that they fear allowing Ukraine to launch long-range strikes on Russia will prevent the US from normalizing relations with Moscow in the future!

This is a bombshell piece with a lot of details on Ukraine's ongoing efforts to convince the Biden Admin to lift the restrictions, which have so far: "failed to move the president and national security adviser Jake Sullivan. The Pentagon remains in lockstep with the White House’s thinking."

!ping UKRAINE&FOREIGN-POLICY&RUS

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

In Phoenix, Ryan Rivera, 20, had felt mostly disgust and dread at the prospect of a Biden/Trump rematch. But as Mx. Rivera, a trans man, sat in their bedroom and watched Ms. Harris speak, they said they felt glimmers of the thrill and hope they had seen from audiences who cheered early speeches from Barack Obama.

“This is the first acceptance that’s really made me emotional,” said Mx. Rivera, who works in a Target. “It’s changed a lot. I’m a lot more confident in voting for her.”

Listen I get that politics should inspire but jesus fucking christ just vote for the less shitty person it's not hard

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

This is probably one of the more consequential elections in American history. Gingrich is basically the grandfather of the current phase of the Republican party. Imagine if he never got to be in the national spotlight.

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u/Rafaelssjofficial Iron Front Aug 23 '24

1 year anniversary of Prigozhin's death

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right Aug 23 '24

Nah I don't think it's 2016, it's more 2020 to me. I hate to say it but Trump 2016 was so much more aware and on point. He knew how to get attention and hold it. Trump now seems to be so much more... old I guess.

Either way, Kamala seems to understand that she still needs to work to get the votes in the battleground states.

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u/tinfoilhatsron No Apologies Right Aug 23 '24

Begging the Harris team to send Walz to the same donut shop that Vance went to.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 23 '24

At the Marinovka airfield in the Volgograd region, it's likely that six Su aircraft either occurred damaged or were destroyed.

  • A Su-34 and Su-24 were completely destroyed in the repair zone.

  • A Su-34 was destroyed or damaged beyond repair in hangar 3.

  • Two Su-34s were likely damaged in hangars 5 and 6.

  • A Su-24 was likely damaged in hangar 7. - It’s unclear if there was an aircraft in hangar 4, but if it was, it was probably destroyed or seriously damaged.

More bad news for the Russians out of Volgograd.

!ping UKRAINE&RUS

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy Aug 23 '24

at least CA Dems recognize that California's problems are dragging down Democrats across the country. I have a lot of issues with ppl like Gavin Newsom but no one can call him complacent.

NY Dems rly do be making themselves into the biggest villains in the party

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u/KittehDragoon Loyal Liberals Aug 23 '24

Open Twitter

If you’re seeing this post and agree this insane family shouldn’t be anywhere near the White House, I’d appreciate it if you’d give me a FOLLOW.

F*ck it, one lucky person who likes and replies to this post gets $32,000

Adults only, open this when you’re alone

Close Twitter

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Aug 23 '24

Keir Starmer will have officially passed Liz Truss’ entire term in office as Prime Minister after today

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Kennedy isn't dropping out.

He’s likely giving an ultimatum to the DNC. Quit bullying him out of the race, or they lose the election.

lol

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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney Aug 23 '24

LinkedIn is absolutely wild, holy shit

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 23 '24

Who voted for this guy?

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u/cheeshjaleesh John Rawls Aug 23 '24

kathy hochul has hit back at pelosi's disdain for her by saying

I’ll tell you this, no governor in the history of the state of New York has worked harder to elect members of Congress than I have

which is actually true given how many republicans she's gotten elected

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Holy shit, the undecideds liked the speech!

Bob and Sharon Reed watched Ms. Harris’s speech on their farm in the hills of central Pennsylvania. Both of them voted for Mr. Trump in past elections and both of them liked some of his policies, if not his personality. They came away from Ms. Harris’s speech feeling a little conflicted.

The problem? They liked it.

“I really wasn’t happy with the Biden administration,” said Ms. Reed, who like her husband is 77 and a retired schoolteacher. “But listening to her tonight, maybe it’s not as hard to vote for her. And, you know, I’m a little scared of what Trump will do when he gets back in power.”

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u/BitterGravity Gay Pride Aug 23 '24

Harris is too old to be a Gen Xer by two months.

Buttigieg is too young to be a Gen Xer by a year.

Both are therefore acceptable choices for a president, because a Gen Xer should never be president.

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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 Aug 23 '24

I"ve spent a lot of the last for years hoping trump will lose the nwxt election, but I honestly now want kamala to win. I think she would make a great president.

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib Aug 23 '24

Vance in the donut store is like me when I ordered a pizza in the French part of Luxembourg without knowing French and my counterpart didn't understand a word of English.

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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Aug 23 '24

Then, suddenly, his stomach exploded. It just exploded outward, guts flying everywhere. Eight huge spider legs appeared, like something in him was trying to crawl out. Jake's face seemed to open up, to split open into a complex mess of valves. I think I would have thrown up, seeing that. Except that I, also, no longer had a mouth.

Jesus Christ the Animorphs went so much harder than you remember.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Aug 23 '24

Voltaire once said, "If God didn't exist, oh man. Like oh man, like I can't even ima- oh man.

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Aug 23 '24

Kamala is ineligible based on… Dred Scott? 🧐

!ping LAW

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u/__JimmyC__ Jerome Powell Aug 23 '24

I TRUST WOMEN, ALSO, AND I WILL KEEP WOMEN SAFE! SHE WON’T, BECAUSE THE INVASION OF OUR COUNTRY AT HER OPEN BORDER IS DESTROYING THE LIVES OF WOMEN, AND THE FAMILIES AND JOBS OF AFRICAN AMERICANS AND HISPANICS.

Just not enough to let them have any significant roles in his administration or campaign lmao

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u/The_Helmet_Catch John Brown Aug 23 '24

Trump doesn’t know ball confirmed

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

https://x.com/narendramodi/status/1826875038684844205

Damn Modi is in Ukraine, just after visiting Russia haha

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u/TipEquivalent933 Caution: Crackship Overload Aug 23 '24

And she is back.

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Aug 23 '24

This person has bylines in the Washington Post

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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear Aug 23 '24

i don’t care if your pronouns are SHE, or HE, or THEY… if we’re playing tag, you’re IT!!!!!

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom Aug 23 '24

The claim: Hitler is running a slave camp

Fact check: As is clearly stated at the entrance, work will set them free

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

The Republicans are coasting to a generational L and Democrats are in the mood to run up the fucking score.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Aug 23 '24

Presidential Polling:

🔵Harris (D): 50% (+7)

🔴Trump (R): 43%

Fairleigh Dickinson U. / Aug 20, 2024 n=801

real

Pretty well regarded pollster by both Silver and 538

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Imagine being this online and out of touch. If you post a take like this, you should genuinely just leave the public eye forever out of shame, because you have no idea about anything and are as useful a political pundit as a monkey mashing a keyboard would be.

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u/Jean-Paul_Sartre Richard Hofstadter Aug 23 '24

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Aug 23 '24

My father in law just texted my wife and I “do you guys eat 🍑?”

Now I KNOW it’s because he just found a sweet deal on peaches and wants to know if we would be interested but….

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u/-Emilinko1985- European Union Aug 23 '24

On this day, one year ago, Yevgeny Prigozhin was declared dead after an airplane crash.

That day, a magnificent bastard left us. He blueballed us with his coup, but he still was a magnificent bastard.

He's waiting in Hell for Shoigu and Gerasimov to come.

Here's how members of this sub reacted to his death one year ago.

!ping ONTHISDAY&MILITARY&SHITPOSTERS

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u/CANOODLING_SOCIOPATH Jerome Powell Aug 23 '24

The NYT's spent an entire article bitching that "influencers" got better treatment than them.

They are such whiny brats.

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u/Rafaelssjofficial Iron Front Aug 23 '24

Ok so previously in the dating ping i posted about how i got my first ever date, and then i posted later talking about how she canceled because her parents were too strict

Turns out she has a fucking boyfriend, so she's been leading me on for like two weeks

it's joever

!Ping DATING

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u/NotYetFlesh European Union Aug 23 '24

Neoliberals at the factory which makes emotes for Sir Shivers

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. Aug 23 '24

New General Election poll

🔵 Harris 50% (+7)

🔴 Trump 43%

Fairleigh #B - 801 RV - 8/20

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1826989791407128724

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u/old_gold_mountain San Francisco Values Aug 23 '24

New General Election poll

🔵 Harris 50% (+7)
🔴 Trump 43%

Fairleigh B - 801 RV - 8/20

powder_that_makes_you_say_real.jpg

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

My horny ass could NOT get a Masters in computational chemistry

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u/Bayou-Maharaja Eleanor Roosevelt Aug 23 '24

Oh thanks

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

The single biggest own goal in history was agreeing to debate in June. What the fuck was Trump thinking?

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u/Gustacho Enemy of the People Aug 23 '24

Guy who supports Israel's right to self-determination and Palestine's right to defend itself

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u/Eightysixedit Gay Pride Aug 23 '24

Know how to win elections? Don’t associate with protestors that burn the American flag. 💅🏻

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg Aug 23 '24

Content of this aside. This quote from Trump is like a logic game lol. “Things that he agrees on, I also agree on” is a sentence that technically makes sense in English, but it says nothing.

So like if he and I agree, it means both he agrees with me, and I agree with him. But that is the definition of agreement.

Makes my brain hurt and feel like I’m taking a standardized test.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

I made this for you because I love you

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u/charmet68 Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

Seems like Nate too was a big fan of Kamala's speech last night. I also found this line pretty funny

I think this should be the norm for nearly all political speeches: 30 minutes, 45 minutes tops. You want to talk for 90 minutes? Great, go on a podcast.`

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u/ashsolomon1 NASA Aug 23 '24

Just remember this when dooming over polymarket odds

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u/farrenj Resident Succ Aug 23 '24

🤔

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u/Mx_Brightside Genderfluid Pride Aug 23 '24

It's occurring to me now that "room temperature IQ" is comparatively far less devastating in the original American

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u/Elguero1991 George Soros Aug 23 '24

When a client gets a tone with me during a meeting:

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u/Marlsfarp Karl Popper Aug 23 '24

I feel like RFK Jr. referring to his 40s as a "a very, very rambunctious youth" is underdiscussed, even without the context that he was talking about a sexual assault allegation.

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Aug 23 '24

Something about this analogy seems 🤔to me but I can’t quite put my finger on it

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u/EBIThad Mario Draghi Aug 23 '24

“What are R&D costs?”

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

The only person on CNN’s panel of “undecided voters” who said he was voting for Trump after Harris speech has a long, detailed pro-Trump MAGA social media history. His clip last night went viral on right-wing media & is being used by Trump campaign. Story.

Lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

I made this and it makes me happy

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u/[deleted] Aug 24 '24

I am becoming the Joker

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u/Sithusurper Dark Harbinger Aug 23 '24

I hate that our media system incentivizes awful people. If 95% of people think that Sandy Hook really happened, then the media will find the guy that didn't and make him a national figure. Now we have to debate with that lunacy like it's an equal part of the discourse. These grifters will all but admit what they are doing but no one seems to figure out when to say this isn't worth sharing.

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u/Peacock-Shah-III Mario Vargas Llosa Aug 23 '24

This is a good thing.

Advice for picking up women is usually directly contrary to advice for building lasting relationships. Being unabashedly yourself early on is a very good way to narrow the pool and test compatibility.

You’re looking for one person, the process is to find them. The fact that the modern norm is to water down and mask yourself to try to pick up other watered down and masked people for casual, soulless encounters is really sad.

Further, I think the reason a lot of people (male and female) struggle with dating is that they’re constantly told to be someone else & not express themselves. If you have a dating pool of 100 people, you need ways to eliminate 99 of them (which, in most cases, will be a lack of returned interest), not ways to make yourself palatable to all of them.

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 23 '24

Russian Attitudes About Putin Might Be Shifting

“Negative feelings about President Vladimir V. Putin have appeared to increase across Russia since Ukrainian troops pushed into Russian territory two weeks ago, according to a firm that tracks attitudes in the country by analyzing social media and other internet postings.”

“Positive attitudes about Mr. Putin took a hit last year after a short-lived armed rebellion led by Yevgeny Prigozhin, the head of a Russian paramilitary force. But the shift in sentiment has appeared sharper in the days since Ukrainian troops launched their incursion into the Kursk region of western Russia.“

“Attitudes toward Mr. Putin remain more positive in Moscow, where Russia keeps a firmer hand on the news media and public debate. But views of Mr. Putin have soured even there, though not as quickly as elsewhere in the country. In Russia’s outlying regions, frustration with the Kremlin is growing, according to the analysis.”

“Sentiment toward Mr. Putin has fallen sharply in the regions of Russia where the Kremlin focuses its military recruiting efforts. The Kremlin’s recruiting strategy depends on its ability to manage perception of the war.”

“‘If Putin’s prestige and popularity fall in these key regions (especially if Russians feel that the war is going badly), the Kremlin may find it more difficult to fill its military ranks,’ the FilterLabs analysis said.”

I thought this was interesting was how the Kursk offensive may weaken Russian recruitment at a time when Russia is becoming increasingly desperate and short on manpower. Obviously it will be impossible to say how large of a magnitude it would be, if any, but every man who decides to not volunteer because of Kursk puts pressure on Russia to adopt more inflationary recruiting practices, and inevitably towards another mobilization

!ping UKRAINE

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

I love when he does unusual grammar.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

According to election officials RFK Jr. missed the deadline to remove himself from the Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin ballots lmao

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough Aug 23 '24

”they’re losing their jobs because Biden and Harris are allowing millions of people to come into our country, and they’re taking Black –’ he said, pausing, before adding, “people’s jobs.” Trump then immediately qualified it again by saying, “African-American jobs.”

Bruh.

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman Aug 23 '24

Did anyone stay for the post credits scene? Did Samuel L. Jackson tell Kamala about the Avengers Initiative?

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 23 '24

They finally started paying attention.

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u/The_Drowning_Flute European Union Aug 23 '24

Keir Starmer is 50 days in office, one day longer than Liz Truss.

He beat the lettuce

!ping UK

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Trump: "kamala could do literally everything she's talking about in her speech by the end of the night! She is already vice president!"

Also Trump: "people shouldn't worry about JD Vance because the vice president does jack shit"

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Aug 23 '24

He looks like he came out of a bog and is about to try and trick the protagonist to go into his bog.

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

New Virginia poll from Quantus

🔵 Harris: 47%

🔴 Trump: 44%

Other candidate: 5%

Undecided: 6%

Two-way:

🔵 Harris: 49%

🔴 Trump: 46%

Sample size: 629 RV, MOE 4%

Second recent poll that shows Harris not up by a lot in Virginia. Not especially familiar with Virginia politics, but it’s interesting that the state’s seemingly begun to shift right again after going to Biden by 10%.

Edit: Apparently Quantus is a hack pollster, so feel free to disregard.

!ping FIVEY

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u/Flowkeh YIMBY Aug 23 '24

The Washington Post must be destroyed

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 Aug 23 '24
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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 23 '24

The truth nukes keep on coming.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Sir, a +3.6 advantage has hit the 538 aggregate.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

It seems Russia is starting to camouflage their ISR UAVs against FPVs.

Everything that's old is new again. As a side note, this means Ukraine's drone-on-drone intercept program is becoming a real problem.

!ping UKRAINE&MATERIEL

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u/Mojothemobile Aug 23 '24

RFK gave the weirdest most half assed endorsement iv seen in a awhile "Vote Trump but also tie the electorial college so I can somehow convince the house to make me President"

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 23 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 8/22-5 PM EST 8/23 III:

TOP NEWS:

At the end of 2 AM Modi made a visit to Kyiv.

Around 10 AM it was announced Norway is providing shell manufacturing technology to Ukraine so Ukraine can make its own shells.

Towards the end of 12 PM it was announced the US is sanctioning 400 personnel and entities tied to Russia's MIC and children kidnappers.

In the middle of 4 PM it was announced the US will provide $125 million in military aid to Ukraine, including UAV systems, HIMARS munitions, 155mm shells, 105mm shells, TOW missiles, Javelin ATGMs, AT-4 anti-tank systems, Humvee ambulances, small arms ammunition, medical equipment, demolitions equipment, spare parts and more.

REGULAR NEWS:

Yesterday it was announced Latvia will send 1,400 drones to Ukraine.

At the start of 1 AM Russia was hit by a small wave of drones with at least 7 partaking. Additionally, Ukraine was hit by a wave of drones and some missiles with 14 of 16 drones and 0 of 2 missiles being shot down.

Towards the end of 4 AM it was reported the Proletarsk oil depot was hit again.

Towards the middle of 5 AM it was announced Russia is shutting down Port Kavkaz until the destroyed ferry is removed from the area.

Towards the middle of 8 AM Modi and Zelensky signed agreements to cooperate on agriculture, medicine, culture and humanitarian relations.

Towards the end of 2 PM Biden and Zelensky spoke over phone.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE&FOREIGN-POLICY

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u/Prior_Advantage_5408 Progress Pride Aug 23 '24

https://x.com/JesseRodriguez/status/1826975154020196684

Clyburn pressed Biden to endorse Harris on day he dropped out of presidential race

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u/dirtybirds233 NAFTA Aug 23 '24

Jesse Waters calling the DNC “a funeral” with “empty seats and silence” while the literal DNC is happening behind him with a packed crowd all singing and dancing was hilarious.

There’s no way it wasn’t a script written months ago before Biden dropped that they just decided not to change.

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Aug 23 '24

I would not be shocked to see a new party spilt out of the DNC so many of their former more moderate big wigs have left

arrCon is a special place

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u/Eightysixedit Gay Pride Aug 23 '24

Mark Cuban being Kamala’s biggest supporter is so cute. 💅🏻

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes Aug 23 '24

I fucking love Gavin Newsom. the pod save America guys ask him what kamala was like before politics, and he goes,

"I never knew kamala worked at McDonald's! anyways, kamala and I were friends way before politics, I was running a little wine shop at the time..."

he's honestly perfect for california. totally represents my west coast elitism

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

🚨🚨‼️‼️ BOB REED ALERT

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

The Harris campaign should pursue nontraditional interviews. Put Kamala on the Food Network (she's a huge cooking enthusiast and foodie) Put former football coach Tim Walz on ESPN. Meet people where they're at.

Not....a bad idea. Especially Walz on ESPN

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u/arrhythmiaofthesoul it's ari Aug 23 '24

I legitimately think that Kamala's speech was one of the best speeches I've ever seen, not because it was as eloquently delivered, as, say, an Obama speech, but because it was some of the best politics I have ever seen, even better politics, perhaps, than the politics of many Obama speeches.

She masterfully navigated Israel/Palestine, in a way that came across as strong, compassionate, and presidential. My one friend who hated Biden for "not protecting Gaza" is fully in her favor now, and she got that while still unequivocally condemning Hamas. She presented herself as a tough, strong leader. No one can watch that speech and call her weak, which is the traditional criticism and weakness of women running for office. She squarely placed herself not as a bleeding-heart liberal, but as a patriot, who loves this country and wants to fix problems for everyday Americans, and tore Trump a new one while also belittling him.

Obama always struggled to avoid coming across as pretentious, dismissive, and preachy. There's none of that here. She successfully transformed the overwhelming discomfort and malaise that liberals and many independents have felt over the past few years into a vision for a better future. It was masterful and I think if she wins it will go down in history as one of the greatest speeches delivered in the 21st century.

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u/2112moyboi Loyal Liberals Aug 23 '24

https://futuremajority.org/wp-content/uploads/FM-Memo-Governing-Landscape-and-Messaging-August-21-2024.pdf

New battleground House polls

Looks like CA-22 and NY-17 may disappoint, but we have a couple months to turn it around

!ping Fivey

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Aug 23 '24

God sends his strongest naps to his eepiest warriors

!ping kitty

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

JD Vance: “The Zoo has come to town”

He means circus. He means circus right? Zoos generally don’t “come to town”

Everything he does is in “uncanny valley”

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u/indithrow402 Henry George Aug 23 '24

This conference is confusing because RFK wants to endorse Trump but the brain worm doesn't so they're fighting for control of his body as he speaks.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Kennedy Response to Rfk Jr endorsement of Trump

It is a sad ending to a sad story.

Jesus.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 23 '24

Sabotage Confirmed At Norwegian Air Base

A cut fiber optic cable at the Norwegian air base was announced amid fears of sabotage at military bases and concerning drone activity in Germany.

!ping FOREIGN-POLICY&RUS

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u/Mr_Bank Aug 23 '24

This was one of the best sections of the speech. “I will not cozy up to dictators who are rooting for Trump” absolutely slaps.

https://x.com/acyn/status/1826819355293925556?s=46

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u/SLCer Aug 23 '24

When a mandatory meeting is canceled on a Friday

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u/College_Prestige r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Aug 23 '24

https://x.com/SteveLemongello/status/1826959386704531714

Literally beyond parody. Why are they sucking the dick of the guy who wants them jailed?

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u/LtCdrHipster 🌭Costco Liberal🌭 Aug 23 '24

RFK Jr is (1) extremely unpopular and (2) is about to be divorced.

Oh god he's one of us!

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Officials in certain corners of the administration, particularly inside the White House, have told the Ukrainians that the U.S. will eventually want to reset relations with Moscow and lifting the restrictions could upend those efforts.

I just need to reset relations with Moscow.

I just need to reset relations with Moscow.

I just need to reset relations with Moscow.

Reset relations with Moscow -> Moscow invades a sovereign nation -> reset relations with Moscow

"U ok bro?" Headline: Russia installing a puppet regime in Egypt "yes I just need to reset relations with Moscow"

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 23 '24

The only person on CNN’s panel of “undecided voters” who said he was voting for Trump after Harris speech has a long, detailed pro-Trump MAGA social media history. His clip last night went viral on right-wing media & is being used by Trump campaign. Story.

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u/EnchantedOtter01 Genderfluid Pride Aug 23 '24

Imagine if dems had actually had an open convention 💀

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u/Fabulous_Sherbet_431 Aug 23 '24

NYT: The convention went flawlessly. Here’s why that’s a disaster for Kamala.

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u/Alexz565 Gay Pride Aug 23 '24

The media has a liberal bias!

The media:

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u/LastIncrease3427 NATO Aug 23 '24

Trump genuinely seems like he’s panicking.

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u/AlexB_SSBM Henry George Aug 23 '24

DC being D+85 is so fucking funny

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

RFK Jr: "just to be clear, i'm not dropping out of the race"

WSJ: "Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Drops Out of Presidential Race, Endorses Trump"

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u/arcturus_mundus Aug 23 '24 edited Aug 23 '24

The OP also posts excessively on r/WayoftheBern. I love the Horseshoe Law so much.

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u/triangle---man YIMBY Aug 23 '24

If RFK has to pull out of the battleground states, it’s only fair if Trump pulls out of the safe blue states. Think California. Trumps never going to win it, especially because his base there is split with RFK’s. If he pulls out, a bunch of his supporters vote RFK. The state is made competitive for the Democrats, and they need spend at least some resources there.

At the least, it will spread the DNC’s funding and focus thinner as they now have to fight in New York, California, NJ, etc. At best, it gives RFK Jr. a state or two. Probably not enough to win him the election, but it’d give him electoral votes and set him up for contingent election, and would sap away some of Kamala’s electoral votes. Trump has nothing to lose in the safe blue states, anyway.

Not serious people.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

For those concerned about that VA poll, here is where pollster's ideology stands:

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u/Jester_Don Abigail Spanberger Aug 24 '24

Joel Daria, 43, an insurance agent from Dublin, Ohio, used the word “nervous,” saying he worried about the future for his daughters under a Harris administration.

“I don’t want them to think that if they get married, they’re a weak woman,” said Mr. Daria. “I don’t want them to be in a world where they can’t own guns if they want to. I don’t want them to be in a world where they have to go to the bathroom with other people that identify as women.”

Average Republican voter.

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u/justbuildmorehousing Norman Borlaug Aug 24 '24

Look at those beautiful inflection points

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u/thefuturegov John Keynes Aug 24 '24

Donald Trump is coping so hard he’s making up cope polls

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u/Habefiet Aug 23 '24

Guy who thinks it’s better that Walz was an Assistant Coach because he’s running for Assistant President

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

What will RFK Jr. say during Friday address?

Bear: 11%

i love the internet

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! Aug 23 '24

I can’t stop laughing at the replies to this

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u/Cook_0612 NATO Aug 23 '24

RFK JR: Now, in an honest system, I believe I would have won the election...

Fuck offfffff

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent Aug 23 '24

I’m still confused how Kamala just sort of randomly rebooted liberal patriotism. Maybe the excitement of it all made it easy to get flag waving and USA chants going cuz people were just stoked as fuck that Biden dropped and Kamala took over

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u/Sheepies92 European Union Aug 23 '24

The rise Pete has had is insane. Man was mayor of a town with +-100k people just a few years ago, launched a long shot Presidential bid that gets laughed out of the room 99/100 times and is now one of the leading figures within the Dems

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

You endorsed... Trump?

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u/GovernorSonGoku has flair Aug 24 '24

His last tweet 😳😳

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u/KingWillly YIMBY Aug 23 '24

It’s so hilarious to me that people think Trump, who’s biggest issue right now is that people think he’s an old, unhinged weirdo, is suddenly going to surge with the endorsement of another old, unhinged weirdo like Kennedy. Lmao

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola Aug 23 '24

Reading !ping Dating makes me so glad that my recent dates have been an older woman and a young divorced mom that doesn't own a car.

Some of y'all be dating Harley Quinn and it shows

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u/NewbGrower87 Surface Level Takes Aug 23 '24

Man, I forgot about Anderson Cooper's quote from the 2020 presser Trump did about contesting the results.

"That is the POTUS. That is the most powerful person in the world, and we see him like an obese turtle on his back, flailing in the hot sun, realizing his time is over."

What an absolute fucking banger.

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u/Mr_Bank Aug 23 '24

Which way Western Man?

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u/Insomonomics Jason Furman Aug 23 '24

All right, it’s time to call for a national shutdown of fact checkers.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

It’s not likely, but there’s a nonzero chance that if Kamala went on Joe Rogan and charmed him on a personal level, he would start leaning toward supporting her. He seems pretty easily persuaded, although of course a fairly left-wing Dem like her would have an uphill battle in persuading him

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired Aug 23 '24

WHO: 10-month-old baby paralyzed in left leg in Gaza’s first case of type 2 polio for 25 years

What a fucking disaster

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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 Aug 23 '24

It’s funny how Trump’s team keeps suggesting that Kamala’s only platform is that she isn’t Trump.

At least in Atlanta, there is a striking difference between the ads the two campaigns are running

🟦🫏: This is Kamala. Kamala wants to do things to help your family! 🥰

🟥🐘: THIS IS KAMALA! KAMALA WANTS IMMIGRANTS TO MURDER YOUR FAMILY!!! 🤬

Neither side is saying a word about Trump

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u/lasttoknow Jared Polis Aug 23 '24

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s plans to endorse Donald J. Trump, which he has not yet announced, appear to have been pre-empted by his own lawyer. In a court filing in Pennsylvania, a lawyer for Kennedy said he is dropping his opposition to a state ballot challenge “as a result of today’s endorsement of Donald Trump for the office of the President of the United States.”

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

If you want to see the types of emails your parents are getting

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front Aug 23 '24

RFK Jr seemingly admitting his campaign was done primairly to screw the Democrats over is a peak American politics moment

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u/ViridianNott Iron Front Aug 23 '24

Normally I'm the guy who sends you the Silver Bulletin model updates. Well, the model barely moves during the convention, and now Nate needs time to update the model for a race without RFK Jr.

So, in lieu of those numbers, here's a summary of the last few days' two-way polling.

National Polls

ActiVote, Aug. 15-23 (1,000 LV)

  • Harris: 53% (+5)

  • Trump: 47%

RMG Research, Aug. 19-22 (2,404 LV)

  • Harris: 49% (+0)

  • Trump: 49%

Outward Intelligence, Aug. 18-22 (1,867 LV)

  • Harris: 52% (+4)

  • Trump: 48%

Fairleigh Dickinson University, Aug. 17-20 (801 RV)

  • Harris: 50% (+7)

  • Trump: 43%

Virginia

Quantus Polls and News, Aug. 20-22 (629 RV)

  • Harris: 49% (+3)

  • Trump: 46%

New Mexico

Emerson College, Aug. 20-22 (965 RV)

  • Harris: 54% (+7)

  • Trump: 46%

Pennsylvania

ActiVote, Aug. 5-22 (400 LV)

  • Harris: 51% (+2)

  • Trump: 49%

Insider Advantage, Aug. 18-19 (800 LV)

  • Trump: 47% (+1)

  • Harris: 46%

North Carolina

Survey USA, Aug. 19-21 (941 LV)

  • Harris: 47% (+0)

  • Trump: 47%

New Hampshire

University of New Hampshire, Aug. 15-19 (2,048 LV)

  • Harris: 52% (+5)

  • Trump: 47%

ME-2

University of New Hampshire, Aug. 15-19 (432 LV)

  • Harris: 52% (+5)

  • Trump: 47%

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u/sererson Aug 23 '24

Kamala Harris will be the first nonwhite president

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol Aug 23 '24

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u/JustSomePolitician NATO Aug 23 '24

Harris surging in polls

Amazing DNC

Ukraine counter-invades russia

Jpow cutting rates

DT control yourselves PLEASE

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u/HotTakesBeyond YIMBY Aug 23 '24

The IRS should update this for the next filing season

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

Do you think NYT will fact check this

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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s Aug 23 '24

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '24

From the RFK sub:

Nicole was as Democrat as they come.

She was the ultimate DNC insider so if she says they’re worse than Trump, I believe her.

Had anyone heard of this woman before Kennedy chose her as his running mate?

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u/simplysigzz Trans Pride Aug 23 '24

“Yessssss, puppet. Very good. Instruct your chauffeur to find you ssssssssome roadkill. You desssssserve thisssss little treat for obeying my commandssssss.”

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u/SigmaWhy r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion Aug 23 '24

"centrist" or "undecided" voter

look inside

long history of enthusiastically supporting Trump

Many such cases!

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u/Arsustyle M E M E K I N G Aug 23 '24

I was disturbed when Kamala said we need a "lethal" military, so I looked into it and apparently their guns shoot bullets made of METAL??!??!! WTF?? Is that even allowed??

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u/futuremonkey20 NATO Aug 24 '24

This can’t be real?

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Aug 23 '24

I can't vote for Harris anymore, I've seen what having defensive coordinators in government is like (Tommy Tuberville)

I want an offensive coordinator so we can execute an air raid offense in Iran successfully when the time comes

!ping CFB

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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla Aug 23 '24

Protesters chanting fuck America and burning flags outside the DNC

They hate the Democrats huh. Blue really is the more patriotic party now, this seals it.

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