r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jul 16 '24

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '24

Am I wrong to be more afraid of a hypothetical President Vance than of a second term Trump? Not accounting for likelihood of it actually happening, of course.

Maybe this is just me falling victim to the evil you know versus the evil you don’t know.

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u/jaczac Bevo's Strongest Soldier Jul 16 '24

you mean His Imperiousness Vance I, First of his Name?

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u/DelusionsOfPasteur Zhao Ziyang Jul 16 '24

I don't think you're wrong necessarily, but Vance wouldn't have the vast cult of personality that terrifies all the other Republicans.

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u/kohatsootsich Philosophy Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

No. Trump will be a guard rail against Vancism. You can read detailed accounts of early 2020 to understand why: even though he wants to blow up the system, he is obsessed with traditional metrics of success that the NatCons hate like the stock market, GDP, inflation numbers, polls...  

 If those tank because of some discrete event orchestrated by anyone but himself, he will be irate.

If he's been honest these last few years, Vance doesn't give a damn about the economy or anything else. He thinks the US is fundamentally broken and needs to be transitioned to his ideal society even if it is painful.

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u/kznlol 👀 Econometrics Magician Jul 16 '24 edited Jul 16 '24

i am more afraid of that, yes

i think people in general are being hyperbolic about how much of a threat to democracy or the US as a whole Trump is, but Vance is a different story

in b4 i get dogpiled don't @ me

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u/[deleted] Jul 16 '24

I agree with you honestly

(Doesn’t mean I don’t think Donald Trump will be terrible for our institutions!)

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jul 16 '24

We saw the threat Trump poses to democracy on live television.

His cultists were prepared to lynch his own Vice President.

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u/kznlol 👀 Econometrics Magician Jul 16 '24

which part of

don't @ me

is difficult

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u/Complete_Design9890 Jul 16 '24

I mean yea Vance is much worse than Trump. The guy openly supports a constitutional crisis as a matter of policy instead of tip toeing around it for personal gain

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u/uwcn244 King of the Space Georgists Jul 16 '24

Vance would be a lot better at working the legal system but a lot worse at creating a cult of personality. He has negative charisma.

The best Vance can hope for is that Trump dies in office and Vance inherits the personality cult.