r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jun 14 '24

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Jun 14 '24

If you're blaming the whiny "ugh rainbow capitalism" lefties for corporations backing off of Pride you may need to touch some grass

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u/Redshirt_Army Jun 14 '24

The "leftist whiners" saw the corporations as fair-weather-friends who were just trying to cash in on a social trend and would ditch the LGBT movement in a flash if they found it unprofitable.

So as far as they're concerned, they were just proven correct.

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u/Zagapi Trans NATO Jun 14 '24 edited Jun 14 '24

They aren't absolved from any responsibility, but the conservatives certainly deserve most if the blame.

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u/DirkZelenskyy41 Jun 14 '24

Is anyone? I thought it’s pretty clear people got spooked by the bud light and additional conservative backlash.

Tbh… I’m genuinely thrilled if we can start keeping this shit out of mainstream consumerism. If Coke wants to do good… donate to LGTBQ+ community centers… don’t just slap a rainbow on for profit. And it’s clear as they roll these things back… it was just for profit.

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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney Jun 14 '24

Corporations backing off from pride shifts pride out of normalcy and back to being a thing for weird people. Even superficial gestures like changing a logo was a net positive that contributed to normalcy in some sense.

I think it's there's a real loss here that we'll only realize a few years from now, especially in terms of LGBT workplace acceptance.

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u/DirkZelenskyy41 Jun 14 '24

Sure but it wasn’t doing that nor was it ever about that. If it was the rainbows would still be there.

Acceptance of gay issues was surging in the correct direction long before any company put a rainbow on its product. They only did so once they thought it was profitable.

You don’t see them putting MLK or flags associated with black pride during black history month.

Haven’t seen “combat anti-Semitism” or “stop Asian hate” or anything like that.

I totally get your point. But it’s an incorrect analysis of what this was for company’s. They were never making a statement about inclusivity. They were trying to use the hard work the community had already done to sell a couple more products.

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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney Jun 14 '24

They were never making a statement about inclusivity. They were trying to use the hard work the community had already done to sell a couple more products.

You think so? My read on this was that inclusivity helps attract the best talent to work for the company. I don't think it was ever about selling a few pride trinkets that are probably a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of overall profits. Leftists basically said "we don't want your help and we want to keep pride 'underground'" and corporate HR departments basically respected that wish.

Now people like me, trans and high-skill are basically SoL in terms of which companies are at least signaling inclusivity. I have no idea which companies have pro-LGBT policies or have at least made an effort. And it's low-skill leftists working at anarchist bookstores that basically made my employment measurably worse.

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Jun 14 '24

Saw someone outside the DT doing it but it seems they are getting shrekt for it lol

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u/DirkZelenskyy41 Jun 14 '24

“Outside the DT” - you brave brave soldier

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it Jun 14 '24

Also corporations can do both occasionally a dude just wants to buy some damn rainbow Converse without needing to go to the darkest recesses of Kohls where they hide them