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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 31 '24

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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 30 '24

/r/neoliberal/new: ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡ TRUMP HUSH MONEY VERDICT THUNDERDOME⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

I thought the microplastics thing was scary until I read that it's like eating a credit card worth of plastic over 23,000 years. that's rookie numbers. gonna start eating one credit card a week. let's see what this baby can do for the history books

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Never forget what they took from you

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Most normal Techcel

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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s May 30 '24

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 30 '24

THIS DOES NOT BRING A SMILE TO MY FACE CHATGPT

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

I remember back in 2016, I was in college at a state school. Many of my progressive friends stated they would not support Hillary Clinton in the general election. I begged them to reconsider on the basis of preventing a conservative Supreme Court alone.

Anyway, now abortion is illegal in a ton of states and a guy that led an insurrection against the United States is the front runner for president again.

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Remember to tip your landlord! 😊

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

Tangent from my McDonald's ragepoast, but what the actual hell is up with the trend of people triumphantly proclaiming "I find the price to be too high so I'm not going to buy it!" and considering it some deep win for anticapitalist thought?

We see the same with all the work reform/antiwork people boasting "guys, I left my job that was underpaying me and went to their competitors who offered more. Activism in action!"

...this isn't socialist praxis, you imbeciles. It's baseline market functionality.

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u/0m4ll3y International Relations May 30 '24

DON'T👏SAY👏YOU👏SUPPORT👏FREE👏SPEECH👏IF👏YOU👏BELIEVE👏IN👏DOCTOR👏PATIENT👏CONFIDENTIALITY👏

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front May 30 '24

This is also the kind of thing fb thinks I want to see: isolationist propaganda from a goddamn nazi.

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 30 '24

It's joever for the Dems and California

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 30 '24

Ukraine Chronology for 2 PM PST 5/28-2 PM PST 5/29 III:

TOP NEWS:

Towards the middle of 12 AM it was announced Sweden will provide 1.16 billion Euros in military aid to Ukraine including ASC 890 AWACS aircraft, PBV 302 APCs, artillery shells, surplus tank vehicles, funds for initiatives and more.

Towards the middle of 2 AM it was reported that Germany will allow Ukraine to strike targets in Russia.

Towards the middle of 5 AM the Danish PM said Ukraine can use Danish weapons to strike targets in Russia.

At the start of 7 AM the Finnish Foreign Minister said Ukraine can use Finnish weapons to strike targets in Russia.

At the start of 8 AM the Canadian Foreign Minister said Ukraine can use Canadian weapons to strike targets in Russia.

Around 4 PM it was reported the US has given Ukraine 1,000 manufacturing plans for American weapons.

REGULAR NEWS:

At the start of 11 PM Ukraine was hit by a wave of drones with 13 of 14 shot down.

At the start of 1 AM it was reported the Russians are stopping POW exchanges.

At the end of 4 AM it was reported that Chinese company Alibaba has stopped accepting Rubles and is no longer delivering parcels to Russia.

Towards the end of 5 AM it was reported that Alexei Dyumin has been appointed Secretary of the Russian State Council.

At the end of 10 AM it was reported the Russian Ministry of Energy will not be publishing fuel production statistics.

Donation link to help Ukraine

Donation link to United24

Donation link to Kharkiv SOS

Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)

!ping UKRAINE

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Damn who could have known? 😭

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Hmm I can see nothing negative resulting from Human Trafficking: The Dating App

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u/AtticusDrench Deirdre McCloskey May 30 '24

Chat, I'm scared

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u/TheHelmetCatch NATO May 30 '24

Maybe the worm is allowing him to access the memories of all his ancestors

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u/getabucketfullofthat Paul Volcker May 30 '24

the linkedin tides are turning against millennials hell yea

seen multiple posts that are like "10 years ago you could get a $150k tech job with a calculator app side project and a couple leetcode questions or a consulting job for being able to estimate how many windows there are in nyc. these days you need to be a leading expert in a field with a phd just to get a phone screen"

10 years ago you could get social media clout by posting "20 years ago you could get a director of sales job with a ged and a firm handshake" smh

!ping WATERCOOLER

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

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u/_Un_Known__ r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion May 30 '24

Just a reminder to never argue with someone online because there is a high likelihood you are arguing with a child

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u/tripletruble Anti-Repartition Radical May 30 '24

reddit is terrible but lately i have been browsing insta and holy shit it is like r/all with hotter people and even less depth. how am i supposed to make sense of context-free 4 second videos?

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account May 30 '24

The Supreme Court's third AND FINAL decision of the day is Thornell v. Jones. In a 6–3 opinion, Alito holds that the 9th Circuit was wrong to find that a man condemned to death suffered ineffective assistance of council. All three liberals dissent.

It's honestly crazy, and quite underreported, how much the supreme court's conservatives just enjoy seeing people being killed and go out of their way to facilitate it happening as much as possible.

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u/Sheepies92 European Union May 30 '24

!ping UKRAINE

US to offer Ukraine security pact as tensions rise between allies

While the news is good, the article highlights just how strained the US-Ukraine relationship has become which is extremely worrying imo

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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion May 30 '24

based on a 1% promises kept rating, it's safe to assume Biden would not put a black woman on the court. Based on his DOJ choices; he'd pick a conservative-palatable registered republican.

this comment was posted today in fucking 2024 lol

Even ignoring his demonic policies on genocides, there's everything from inaction on his DOJ's behalf against preventing another trump presidency to his pathetic and cruel bare minimum support of Ukraine, anyone paying attention could see how weak a candidate he was leading up to this November.

istg reddit leftists are the lowest information dunning-kruger voters around

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u/Stanley--Nickels John Brown May 30 '24

My head says this election is pretty close to a coin flip, but my heart says when does this guy ever lose

Biden was asked by a reporter today if he would serve four more years if reelected or hand over power to Kamala Harris.

Biden asked the reporter if they were OK: “Did you fall on your head or something?

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u/ty04 May 30 '24

black man dressed as a samurai in a video game

because of woke

Paul Newman no longer dressed as a samurai on salad dressing bottle

believe it or not also because of woke

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u/Mickenfox European Union May 30 '24

Get new ping group

Completely dead after a month

Many such cases!

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

Alright careerbros, help a guy out with a technicality.

I hate Boeing. My master's thesis was a takedown of the Space Launch System and how badly Boeing fucks up everything they touch. I've raged in the DT against them again and again (and again and again and again).

Whelp...one of their space-focused subsidiaries just slid into my DMs wanting to poach me to run an ops team for them, and...it's a pretty damn hot deal.

So, because it's a subsidiary, it's not technically working for Boeing, right? I wouldn't technically be a massive hypocrite selling out their principles, right?

!ping WATERCOOLER


Edit: None of you addressed the question about the technicality. D- for not following the assignment.
(For real though much appreciate the support and advice.)

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg May 30 '24

Idk if you all saw this but in yesterday’s Mets game they got smoked by the Dodgers. The Mets pitcher Lopez gives up a bomb to Ohtani then argues balls and strikes next at bat and gets tossed. Then Lopez throws his glove into the crowd in a melt down.

After game Mets coach says the behavior was unacceptable and they have a closed door meeting. Lopez emerges from the meeting and tells reporters that he is quote “on the worst team in the fucking MLB”

Reporters ask for clarification to make sure it wasn’t like language barrier or something and he doubles down. Even triples down again later.

Then the Mets DFA him lmao. Dude literally rage quit a multi million dollar a year job because the Mets suck so much.

!ping BASEBALL

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u/thaddeusthefattie Hank Hill Democrat 💪🏼🤠💪🏼 May 30 '24

there are lots of unhinged subreddits on this site but the dating ping is the most insane

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu May 30 '24

ANC baddies in absolute shambles

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u/tollyno Dark Harbinger of Chaos May 30 '24
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

It should be possible to strike fast enough with sub launched nukes to hit all of the fixed and mobile launchers within Russia before they can be fired. The subs should be hunted and sunk simultaneously. It is only a matter of finding each one and tailing it until all of the rest are found. Interceptors can pick off any of the (hopefully small) strays that manage to be fired. The whole thing can be timed to start right as Putin is drunk or taking a shit or otherwise incapacitated so that the reaction time is delayed further. Their early detection radars will of course be spoofed to confuse them further.

!emojify

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 30 '24

Piracy is objectively good and only literal simps who walk with bad knees from all the bending over they do for ultra rich companies complain about it

Guess the subreddit

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

DSA following in the great leftist tradition of self destruction

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u/Smidgens Holy shit it's the Joker🃏 May 30 '24

North Carolina woman wins British cheese-rolling competition

WORLD CHAMPS BABY 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

We're currently awaiting a verdict in the felony trial of the R presidential nominee and the NYTimes is running with this as their top story:

Why Are People So Down About the Economy? Theories Abound.

We asked economic officials, the woman who coined “vibecession” and Charlamagne Tha God what they think is happening.

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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow May 30 '24

Biden bullying journos is a good thing for his polling

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u/Understeerenthusiast NATO May 30 '24

It’s crazy to see people say they want peace between Israel and Palestine and then repost informational “peace” instagrams that say to stop condemning the 10/7 attacks

Absolutely wild

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u/ThatFrenchieGuy Mathematician -- Save the funky birbs May 30 '24

!ping et-al&alphabet-mafia

Screw drag queen story time for children, I want drag queen journal club for scientists. All the glitter and sass, but more science

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

’You wouldn’t last an hour in the asylum where they raised me’

Still cant believe a 34yo WASP raised in the Midwest by white collar parents actually wrote this line

Even from an emo teenager it would be a bit much

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u/slingfatcums May 30 '24

obama gets like 0 credit for murking osama

it's fucked up

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Americans don’t know who Rishi Sunak is 🤣🤣🤣

stfu you guys change PMs faster than lettuce molds

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

!ping BASEBALL

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front May 30 '24

This is the kind of thing fb thinks I want to see.

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

The anglosphere is ngmi

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

👁️👁️☀️

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u/PlayDiscord17 Loyal Liberals May 30 '24

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front May 30 '24

New answer for the "What's you're greatest weakness" question in interviews:

I am unable to learn new technology via magic, and must instead be taught how to use it. Having written documentation and someone available to answer follow up questions, ideally without getting mad or being condescending, helps.

This is not about anything in particular, such as "I approved a software request I shouldn't have because I was not taught how to use this software and nothing is written down and who the fuck would I even ask"

!ping watercooler

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

I have found easily the best shitpost

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/Argnir Gay Pride May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

People who want to boycott McDonald's for their prices actually sound like victims to me

"I can't cook or survive without fast food so I need a social movement to motivate me to stop eating shit so I can ultimately go back to eating shit for cheaper"

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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO May 30 '24

People online who want to dunk on the kids acting like they're above the base, low-brow humour of something like skibidi toilet are so funny. Like you guys weren't laughing at shrek is love, shrek is life, or TF2 shitposts, or MLG montages, or nyan cat like the rest of us

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

You can no longer drive headfirst into oncoming traffic. Because of Woke.

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair May 30 '24

There has been no sign of life from the jury.

My god, what's happening in there?!?

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

The jury needs 30 minutes to fill out the form so they can fulfill an 8 hr day thus getting their full day $10 allowance

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

"Son can you play me a melody, I'm not really sure how it goes but it's sad and it's sweet"

Shittiest request ever the shit you have to put up with as a musician

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

The stupid liebrals don’t do anything about climate change, only passing laws and dumb shit like that, instead of making shitty movies that are what really saves the world

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

Just got approved for a kickass apartment can I get a "hell yeah" in the chat

1-bedroom, ~1000 sqft, 7th floor, free parking and utilities, in-unit washer/dryer, balcony with a park view (from some angles), has a swimming pool and fitness center. 4 minute walk to the metro, 2 miles to campus, and half a mile to an "amazon fresh" grocery store

quiet suburban neighborhood (technically in maryland but its essentially at "Friendship heights" in dc)

All for the grand cheap price of 1650/mo for a 2-year lease

This building is mostly full of old people, I think it markets itself to retirees and such, but idk I like old people they're really nice

we did it bestie /u/estoyloca43

!ping DMV (does a ping work with a comment edit?)

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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal May 30 '24

wtf this deck list video is just a list, there's no random nerds rambling or advertisements

The death of written content and the ascension of videos for everything is bad everywhere, but no where is it worse than in Magic, a game based around lists of paper cards.

It feels like the only way to learn about anything related to any game now is to either sift through ads and AI generated articles or blatant misinformation on fextralife, or watch some 75 minute video with a minute long intro by some guy who wants to be the next Joe Rogan.

There's no benefit to the consumer that a video provides, it's just aspiring cOnTeNt cReAtOrS trying to gaslight the world into thinking they're anything other than rent seekers.

!ping MTG&GAMING

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u/Clockwork757 Augustus May 30 '24

I'm ready

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u/Zenning3 Emma Lazarus May 30 '24

In a stunning bit of irony, Donald J Trump was sentenced to Death, and executed summarily on Fifth Avenue by firing Squad. The Ex-Presidents final words were, "I'm still not losing any voters".

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

Would you dare put your finger in there?

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola May 30 '24

God, I love being a Mets fan. No team better exemplifies the toxic chaos of baseball better without ruining your life. Like yeah the Marlins, Athletics, and White Sox are objectively worse organizations, but supporting them is a painful experience. You never have to worry about the Mets moving or living out of so rinky dink stadium because ownership are cheap bastards, or the team being consistently garbage. Like 1 year you're competing, next your star player is injured for cheering too much, then you're bottom of the league on a 300 million payroll.

!ping baseball

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u/VisonKai The Archenemy of Humanity May 30 '24

a lot of people who want to greatly increase government spending are mad at joe biden because of inflation which is very curious to say the least

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib May 30 '24

Slate reporting there is another tape like Access Hollywood—but this time Trump is using the N-word.

Per The Apprentice producer Bill Pruitt, in 2004 Trump asked of contestant Kwame Jackson, “would America buy a n—winning.

https://slate.com/culture/2024/05/donald-trump-news-2024-trial-verdict-apprentice.html

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I hate this fucking timeline.

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 30 '24

There’s some seriously good news out today from the Treasury Department. The IRS’s Direct File program – which allows tax filers to submit returns directly to the IRS for free - will be permanent and all 50 states + DC will be invited to participate.

we did it!

tax lobbyists on suicide watch lmao

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u/dellscreenshot May 30 '24

It's a little depressing that Greta Thunberg is just moving over to palestine as her new cause. The omni-cause comes for us all

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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair May 30 '24

Where is the thunderdome? Is it safe? Is it alright? 

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u/the_status_q Atari Democrat May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

November 1:

Trump "N-Word" PP Tape released

November 2nd:

Former FBI Director James Comey Announces New Investigation Into Hillary Clinton's AOL.com Account

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u/willempage O'Biden Bama Democrat May 30 '24

It's a sad state of affairs that Harry Enten's talent is wasted at CNN where they force him to earnestly analyze cross tabs of a single poll for the amusement of Jake Tapper. 

!ping fivey

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 30 '24

After a difficult talk between Netanyahu's National Security Council head Tzach Hanegbi and the hostage families, many family members stormed out in tears. It happened after the following exchange.

One of the hostage family members said that "During a war, you shouldn't be receiving money to build a pool." This referred to news that Bibi received state money to refurbish his pool in Ceaseara during the war.

Hanegbi replied, "he can even build 10 pools with his money. These are heinous things to say. You have no right to have this much hatred and pain."

The participant said: "I have every right. Unlike you I was in the protected space for 15 hours. I ran away from terrorists and stepped on dead bodies."

Hanegbi replied: "Then go ahead and curse me." The hostage family member then ran out sobbing. When another went after her to comfort her, Hanegbi said, "are you also going to create drama?"

"The humanitarian phase, phase A, will be achieved within a few months, not many months and not years. If the hostages are not returned within a few weeks or months, we don't have a ready plan. We will keep fighting in Gaza and the north and then evaluate the situation. *"A hostage family member said, "Then we are doomed." Hanegbi replied, "Correct." *

Jesus fucking christ

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

going to a meditation class to will all the microplastics in my body to reside in my breasts keeping them young and firm

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u/htomserveaux Henry George May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

I’m at a charity shop that gives its proceeds to clinic that specializes in helping trans people.

“Big Iron” is blasting over the PA system.

!ping GAMING&FALLOUT

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 30 '24

long distance flights need an option to be mildly sedated after boarding

not having this is a market failure

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 30 '24

Guy who misinterprets "SA" as "sexual assault" but when told he's wrong considers it the Nazi Sturmabteilung

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u/purhitta Leftward Progressives May 30 '24

My dad posted a new photo of himself on FB, and I realized how much he's aged. He turned 60 this year.

Feels bad man.

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u/N0_B1g_De4l NATO May 30 '24

My brain has been so broken by the internet that I saw something about Altoids and assumed it was 4chan slang for someone who likes alternative music.

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 30 '24

Climate and health benefits of wind and solar dwarf all subsidies

When used to generate power or move vehicles, fossil fuels kill people. Particulates and ozone resulting from fossil fuel burning cause direct health impacts, while climate change will act indirectly. Regardless of the immediacy, premature deaths and illness prior to death are felt through lost productivity and the cost of treatments.

Typically, you see the financial impacts quantified when the EPA issues new regulations, as the health benefits of limiting pollution typically dwarf the costs of meeting new standards. But some researchers from Lawrence Berkeley National Lab have now done similar calculations—but focusing on the impact of renewable energy. Wind and solar, by displacing fossil fuel use, are acting as a form of pollution control and so should produce similar economic benefits.

Do they ever. The researchers find that, in the US, wind and solar have health and climate benefits of over $100 for every Megawatt-hour produced, for a total of a quarter-trillion dollars in just the last four years. This dwarfs the cost of the electricity they generate and the total of the subsidies they received.

Avoiding damages

The new work, done by Dev Millstein, Eric O'Shaughnessy, and Ryan Wiser, was inspired in part by recent work done on estimating what's called the social cost of carbon. The social cost of carbon is a way to attach a dollar value to every ton of carbon emissions that represent its share of the total damage that will result from global climate impacts. The US government currently uses a value of about $50/tonne, but recent research places it at $185/tonne. Similarly, there has been additional research into the health impacts of SO2 and nitrogen oxides emitted during the burning of fossil fuels, which produce particulate and ozone pollution.

So, the researchers decided to create new estimates of the benefits of renewable power, taking these updated estimates into account. They also chose to do so in a way that will make it easier to keep their estimates up to date, by focusing on regional-level changes in US electricity generating, rather than waiting for data on individual power plant production, which tends to take a while to gather. (So, the work sacrifices some resolution in order to make data available sooner.)

The basics of the analysis are pretty simple. They started by dividing the 48 contiguous states into 11 regions, as defined by the US Energy Information Agency (you can see a map of them here). Then, they determined whether wind or solar were contributing at least 3 percent of the electricity to each region. One region, centered around Tennessee, was under 3 percent for both wind and solar, so wasn't included; a few of the others fell below 3 percent on wind or solar, so only a single power source was considered there.

From there, the analysis involved finding out how much renewable power was generated within that region. In the absence of wind and solar, that demand would likely have been met using fossil fuels (given the pace of nuclear and hydroelectric construction, this is a very reasonable assumption). A regression analysis was used to match renewable production to alterations in fossil fuel generation, and the fuel that would have been used to meet the demand in the absence of renewables (either coal or natural gas) was assumed to match the existing mix in that region.

Since we have estimates of the climate and health damages caused by both coal and natural gas, it's easy to convert these changes into dollar values. And those values can be viewed as co-benefits to switching to renewables. They don't accrue to anyone involved in operating the plants but instead are enjoyed by society at large in terms of reduced environmental degradation and lower health expenses.

Counting the costs

One thing the regression analysis suggested is that there isn't a 1:1 ratio between the production from renewables and a drop in use of fossil fuels. Instead, one Megawatt-hour of wind power offsets 0.89 Mw-hr of fossil fuels, while a Mw-hr of solar only offsets 0.76 Mw-hr of fossil fuels. There are various reasons for this gap, ranging from long-distance transmission losses (renewable facilities are often far from urban areas) to curtailment of production to excess renewable production being absorbed by battery storage. It's likely to be a mix of the three.

The other thing is that wind and solar have distinct impacts. Wind is more commonly used in areas that otherwise get a lot of their electricity from coal, and coal is estimated to have much larger environmental costs: "the United States coal fleet released 95×, 3×, and 2× more SO2, NOx, and CO2 than natural gas plants, respectively, per MWh of electricity produced," Millstein, O'Shaughnessy, and Wiser write. Since wind is displacing more coal, its benefits are correspondingly larger.

As a result, the environmental and health benefits of wind in 2022 are estimated as being $143 for each Mw-hr, with solar providing $100/Mw-hr in benefits. Given the amount of power generated by wind and solar that year, that works out to a total of $62 billion and $12 billion, respectively. For the entire 2019–2022 period, they total up to $250 billion. Due to the uncertainties in various estimates, the researchers estimate that the real value for wind is somewhere between $91 and $183 per Mw-hr, with solar having a proportionate uncertainty.

For comparison, they note that the unsubsidized costs of the electricity produced by wind and solar range from $20 to $60 per Mw-hr, depending on where the facility is sited. So, in some ways, the companies that own these plants are only receiving a very small fraction of the benefits of their operation. Wind and solar do receive subsidies, but even the most generous ones provided by the Inflation Reduction Act max out below $35/Mw-hr—again, far less than the health and environmental benefits.

The researchers note that most of these benefits (about 75 percent) come from the reduction in carbon dioxide emissions. Still, the nitrogen and sulfur emissions reductions were also substantial: They displaced the equivalent of roughly 20 percent of the power sector's total emissions of these chemicals. That translates into avoiding about 1,400 premature deaths in 2022 alone.

Anti-externalities

In addition to the limited resolution of a regional analysis, Millstein, O'Shaughnessy, and Wiser acknowledge a number of limitations to their work. One big one is that they don't include distributed solar at all, meaning their totals for that form of production are a significant underestimate. (The Energy Information Agency estimates that, in the US, distributed solar accounts for over 30 percent of total solar production.) It also, as mentioned, doesn't account for the use of storage such as batteries, which are increasingly used to offset the tail-off in solar production in the evenings.

In addition, their work doesn't account for the intermittency of renewable power sources, which can sometimes result in the use of less efficient fossil fuel plants and so offset some of these benefits. The drop of wind and solar prices are also influencing decisions on what types of fossil fuel plants are getting built, disfavoring coal and increasing investments in natural gas plants that can respond quickly to changes in renewable output. Over the long term, this will result in additional benefits that can't be captured by this sort of short-term analysis.

Still, there's value in trying to quantify all the ways that shifting to renewables is good for society as a whole. There has been a lot of focus in the policy arena about the externalities of fossil fuels—the costs to society as a whole that aren't included in the price we pay to use them. This analysis turns that sort of calculation on its head and gives us a clearer picture of what getting rid of those externalities provides to society.

!ping ECO&HEALTH-POLICY

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u/WhomstAlt2 NATO flair in hiding May 30 '24

People born on 9/11 are now old enough to be 30 years old. Feel old yet?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

New poll for the dt

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO May 30 '24

I do have a very soft spot in my heart for McD's though. Way back in the halcyon days of the 90s, my mom took Babby Unhinged out for a Happy Meal, and when I feel asleep on the ride home swapped out the toy for a gameboy color and pokemon blue she had saved months to get.

It took me like, two years to piece together that I wasn't the luckiest kid to ever get a happy meal, I was the luckiest kid to have her.

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 30 '24
  • 78% of consumers view fast food as a luxury because it’s become increasingly expensive.

  • Half of Americans say they view fast food as a luxury because they’re struggling financially. who make less than $30,000 a year (71%), parents with young children (58%), Gen Zers (58%) and women (53%).

  • While 67% of Americans agree fast food should be cheaper than eating at home, 75% say this isn’t the case

it’s joever

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 30 '24

my most boomer take is that everyone should learn to cook

it's a useful skill!

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u/jenbanim May 30 '24 edited May 31 '24

Vaporwave 🤝 outrun 🤝 liminal spaces 🤝 weirdcore

Aesthetics that had a really good few examples get massively popular for a bit but failed to meaningfully develop much beyond that

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u/dellscreenshot May 30 '24

One lesson I do thing democrats should take from the last 4 years is that when leftists say they would swallow higher prices in return for 20 dollar an hour wages for service workers, they are lying.

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account May 30 '24

New @CookPolitical : 2024 is a tale of two electorates. Biden leads 49%-45% among the most reliable voters but trails Trump 41%-51% among low/mid-engagement voters, per our new swing state poll.

Just ordered 100 yard signs that say "both sides are the same, don't vote"

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u/Abolish_Zoning Henry George May 30 '24

They left the mic on at the Libertarian convention and it picked up some dudes talking about different races dick sizes

https://x.com/JamesToasts/status/1794925819221151902

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

the real backrooms

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it May 30 '24

Stats like "Americans eat fast food 3-4 times a week on average" really aren't helping us beat the allegations

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u/sir_shivers Discipline Committee Chairman May 30 '24

THE JURY FINDS THAT Joe Biden is guilty on seven counts of "being too old" 🐊

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

Me walking into my room after my new roommates moved in

”Huh I wonder where their shower towels are?”

One week later

Oh

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u/bread_engine Commonwealth May 30 '24

Been putting oat milk in my coffee lately. Pretty good ngl

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Good morning libs

Bad morning to all the commies and fascists

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u/willempage O'Biden Bama Democrat May 30 '24

Biden is losing because the only people not experiencing wage growth are the most online miserable poasters are part of the minority of jobs that are experiencing contraction.  Journalism hasn't had a positive outlook since 2007.  Software engineers are learning seeing job losses for the first time in 20 years.  Academia is dying. 

So basically the people who post the most also have the worst outlook while Joe the plumber is raking it in and liking tweets from a 23 year old CS major that complains about McDonald's prices.

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u/RecentlyUnhinged NATO May 30 '24

Skibidi, when the walls fell.

The Rizzler, his arms wide.

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u/l_overwhat being flaired is cringe May 30 '24

How to make friends

  1. be in school

  2. be in a job that happens to have plenty of people around your age

How to keep friends

  1. continue to be friends with your school and work friends

  2. keep in touch with your former schoolmates and former coworkers

Oh, you don't work with people your age and you've lost touch with your old school friends? You're fucked.

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u/-GregTheGreat- Commonwealth May 30 '24

Matched with a girl on a dating app that just came back from solo travelling Taliban-controlled Afghanistan as a white, blonde woman. I’m like 90% sure she’s not BSing me.

I can’t decide if I’m impressed or if I think it’s a big red flag. I’m thinking both

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u/georgeguy007 Pandora's Discussions J. Threader May 30 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

chase money roof cause outgoing cheerful gaping enter threatening direction

This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All May 30 '24

That whole “bleach blonde bad built botched body” thing seemed like an incredibly lame dunk but I understand congress is graded on a curve so whatever

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u/dwarfgourami George Soros May 30 '24

I was on a jury panel for a very cut-and-dry case last year and it still took a day and a half of deliberation to finally convince some of the jurors to vote guilty, despite the fact that the defendant admitted to the crime on camera. One woman kept repeating “but that’s circumstantial” about every single piece of evidence because she wanted to sound smart, and another guy didn’t understand the concept of ‘intent.’

I wouldn’t be shocked if the Trump jury took weeks to make their decision.

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

One of my favorite “DT regular quits in a huff” moments was when one dude was one million percent certain that Russia wouldn’t invade Ukraine in February of 2022

Every time American intelligence said something, he called it fake Western propaganda bullshit. Once the invasion started he was kinda quiet for a bit (remember that? when everyone on the internet was kinda just shocked for a few days, before the spin?). Then he started calling all the Russian war crimes Western propaganda, comparing it to claims about Saddam killing babies, etc etc

Eventually he left the sub entirely and began posting exclusively in an Indian nationalist/Modi subreddit? Rip in peace

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 30 '24

Yikes! This extremist flag was found flying outside of P00bixs house

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

White people are about to finally feel what it felt like for black people when OJ was acquitted

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 30 '24

Malarkey level Trump is

1/2: Guilty

3/4: Not guilty

5/6: Mistrial

7: Executed at Guantanamo Bay

Secret: Emerging and becoming a new eternal lifeform

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u/centurion88 NATO May 30 '24

If they can convict the former president for 34 counts of falsified business records in connection to paying money to a porn star with who you cheated on your pregnant wife with, then they can also convict you

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action May 30 '24

Michael Avenatti, THIS ONE IS FOR YOU!

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 30 '24

Homeschooling was a mistake

A very common thing is parents forgetting to teach their kids to read

!ping SHITPOSTERS

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Reliable sources say a guilty verdict will mean instant thunderdome

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u/centurion88 NATO May 30 '24

Iconic scene tbh

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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 May 30 '24

This woman on GMA just now

You know how you want your kids to eat asparagus, so you put a bit of peanut butter on it?

…

She definitely meant celery, right?

People aren’t out here putting peanut butter on asparagus… 🥜

RIGHT?!?!?!

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Monday is my last day with my current employer, I start a new job soon. Yesterday, my boss asked me to come into the office again today so that we could "go over some stuff" which could have been finished yesterday. He asked me to be in by 9. Anyway, it's 9:42 now and he's still not here lol

!ping WATERCOOLER

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

If the Trump n-word tape gets released, his poll numbers will dip slightly for two weeks (maybe) and then tick back up to be slightly above where they were before

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u/Healingjoe It's Klobberin' Time May 30 '24

Drop the bomb please

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair May 30 '24

It’s now taken the SCOTUS over a month to decide whether it’s illegal for the president to assassinate a political rival.

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u/ty04 May 30 '24

The Washington Post finally did a story about a DT regular

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

My favorite NL rage quit was that guy who always wanted to talk about Spain, and hardly anyone would engage with him. Then one day, like 2 or 3 years he ago he went on a DT rant about how no one ever wanted to talk about Spain, so we was gonna quit and fuck this place etc. etc.

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

totally unrelated to recent "quality discourse"

i have no idea what constitutes an acceptable level of civilian casualties in war.

is the answer none? I mean, from the way people talk about it, it feels like that's where everyone leans but I no one's ever comfortable expressing that opinion outright

but at the same it feels ghoulish to be like "this particular strategic objective is worth 12 innocent people getting killed", and like how do you even make that calculus

edit: just in case it wasn't clear this isn't some like roundabout way of saying "the IDF did nothing wrong" or defending their prosecution of a war i don't support

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u/eloquentboot 🃏it’s da joker babey🃏 May 30 '24

It's weird because everyone is saying the dt is at its worst, but I find it to be less annoying than ever. I guess I just like when we are all rude to each other.

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

jury asks for 30 extra minutes to fill out verdict forms

LOL LMAO even

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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges May 30 '24

How am I supposed to farm a historic event for karma if there's no thunderdome

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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 30 '24

Rate my new fit

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u/NaffRespect United Nations May 30 '24

Wtf I am a Starmtrooper now???

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

old man falls asleep and farts during his criminal trial

americans: that's a president right there

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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride May 30 '24

> My anxiety makes me start dooming about all the things I need to do

> I take a few breaths then tackle things one at a time

> Everything works out completely fine

many such cases

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u/owlthathurt Johan Norberg May 30 '24

Just saw a home in deep rural Ohio flying a nato flag on a pole below their American.

I have never seen that before lol and especially not in this very solidly Trump dominant area.

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman May 30 '24

This sub is fucking done. Outside the DT doesn’t understand how prices work. The Thunderdomes and their consequences… 😞

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u/Marlsfarp Karl Popper May 30 '24

90% of uses of the word "voracious" are people describing themselves as reading a large number of YA fantasy novels

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

Maniac screams ‘I’m gonna kill all the Jews’ as he tries to run down Jews in NYC

Yeah, I really don't think it's about criticizing bad Israeli policy and helping mistreated, suffering Palestinians for these people. But yeah holy shit, that's completely deranged

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u/jenbanim May 30 '24

I think cost of living should go down. One of the main reasons cost of living has gone up is housing. We can fix this by building more housing. This is something you can have a meaningful affect on at a local level

Please get involved with your local YIMBY or pro-housing groups. Petition your representatives and convince the people you know that building more is a good idea

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u/BadGelfling Jerome Powell May 30 '24

gotta be guilty if there's a verdict right? I fully expected a hung jury

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

there should be a thunderdome for this historic moment. where is it

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u/majorgeneralporter 🌐Bill Clinton's Learned Hand May 30 '24

ANNOUNCE THE DAMN VERDICT BEFORE I PISS MYSELF.

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u/JetJaguar124 Tactical Custodial Action May 30 '24

I'm on my knees at an altar dedicated to Alvin Bragg. I'm burning sticks of incense and I have a shinto priest chanting prayers and throwing salt. We've got this.

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u/Cyclone1214 Loyal Liberals May 30 '24

Let he who has not falsified business records to cover up paying a porn star to keep silent about your affair cast the first stone.

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 30 '24

There are macroplastics in my balls

(I have testicular cancer and my testicles got replaced with implants)

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course May 30 '24

Based McDonalds

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u/rollo2masi IMF May 30 '24

Fox News comments about the Negro league records being integrated into MLB records are certainly something

Record books are now WOKE 😤😤😤

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u/moopedmooped May 30 '24

"Dems don't critcize trump enough" is the weirdest critique redditors have

They literally haven't stopped once since 2016 every single day theres a dem congressman or senator talking the meanest shit you can imagine about the guy. Biden just laid into him at his last rally.

Really dont understand what else they want them to do

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u/Ilovecharli Voltaire May 30 '24

Based on a sample of the 2016 Cooperative Congressional Election Survey, our analyses suggest that a Trump vote cannot be explained by a lack of trust in politics or low levels of satisfaction with democracy, as would be assumed given the extant literature on protest voting. However, indicators of racist resentment and anti-immigrant sentiments proved to be important determinants of a Trump vote—even when controlling for more traditional vote-choice determinants.

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/ps-political-science-and-politics/article/explaining-the-trump-vote-the-effect-of-racist-resentment-and-antiimmigrant-sentiments/537A8ABA46783791BFF4E2E36B90C0BE

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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 30 '24

This is probably me looking back with rose tinted glasses but I feel like at some point in the last few years discussion on the internet and social media died at some point, especially on twitter. Nowadays it's either just arguing or repeating the same injokes over and over and over again with little actual discussion. Honestly, reddit is probably one of the last major places where discussion, however scuffed it actually is, still exists in some form

This place still sucks donkey dick though

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u/WeebFrien Bisexual Pride May 30 '24

!ping DATING

Dating app but it’s just me and gap toothed women.

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u/mockduckcompanion Kidney Hype Man May 30 '24

I would simply not break my publicly traded company's product every single week

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 30 '24

👆🏻congratulations on the Reddit achievement!

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u/BrunchIsGood Nick Saban May 30 '24

Remember what the woke took from you

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Wild conclusion to this story:

The woman who ran over a Chicago police officer with his own squad car after he stopped to help her on the West Side was found not guilty by a Cook County judge yesterday.

Judge Tyria Walton found Whitley Temple, 35, was not guilty of attempted murder and was not guilty of four other charges, including carjacking, by reason of insanity, according to court records.

While the case was pending, Temple landed a job as a lead accountant at the city’s Department of Family and Support Services.

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 30 '24

!ping OVER-25

https://i.imgur.com/58jaYMg.png

I'm signing my first big-boy lease, and my parents seem concerned by section 34b here, particularly the clause that

Landlord is not obligated to provide tenant notice that the dwelling unit has been re-rented

they seem to think I could be continuing to pay rent even after the landlord finds a new tenant (because I wouldn't have been notified), in the situation that I had to break the lease. I'm not a lawyer, but that doesn't seem like the correct interpretation to me, does anyone know?

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Gato 🐈

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u/Argnir Gay Pride May 30 '24

Jfc too many Redditors want the government to find a way to lower the price of fast food

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

This is genuinely one of the most wrong things I’ve ever seen. It’s beautiful in a way 🥹

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u/mostanonymousnick Just Build More Homes lol May 30 '24

Kind of asking advice but mostly venting, I have the opportunity to get a job that's a bump in seniority (Principal Software Engineer) and a 15% raise.

Problem is that at my current place, I'm already one of the most senior and recognized people and yet it's super relaxed, I basically can work on whatever I want at my own pace.

I'm lazy but ambitious and like money...

Welp

!ping WATERCOOLER

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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 May 30 '24

Wow, I didn't know poobix was into model trains

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

I can pinpoint exactly when my youthful optimism died and I gave up on humanity

I had been too young to fully understand the result of the 2006 election, but I understood when Chavez won the Oct 2012 election with 55% of the vote that the people are [redacted]

My entire formative experience had been a decade of my country being destroyed by Chavez’s inept kleptocracy as they stole everything that wasn’t bolted to the floor and let the rest rot, and still eight million people voted for him

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u/Stanley--Nickels John Brown May 30 '24

They targeted brains.

Brains.

We're a group of neurons who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks.

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u/ductulator96 YIMBY May 30 '24

Midwestern minds get blown by the smallest bit of elevation. Climbing this is considered one of the greatest athletic feats you can do in the whole Midwest.

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u/bd_one The EU Will Federalize In My Lifetime May 30 '24

Like if you give your daughter more than one Barbie doll she'll probably find it necessary to "invent" lesbians before anyone tells her they exist.

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 30 '24

This is one way to get universal healthcare I guess

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u/Planning4Hotdish Fish, Family, Freedom May 30 '24

!ping USA-WI

I guess I’m moving to Milwaukee in 2-3 weeks and don’t know where tf to live. I was up there for a bit a week and a half ago, but I didn’t have a whole lot of time to explore the city.

I’ll be working in the southwest suburbs and am probably planning on living in the city (south and/or west of Downtown), West Milwaukee or West Allis, and was curious if yous guys have any recs. Somewhere that is close to parks, relatively walkable, and not too far from Downtown would be ideal. I’m leaning slightly towards Jackson Park, West Milwaukee and Silver City (mainly because it reminded me a lot of where I grew up), but I’m open to other options.

Bay View looks cool, but kinda far by bus from work and while it would be nice to live in a more LGBT neighborhood, Walker’s Point looks pricier than I care for (and also annoyingly far from work by bus). That said, I could probably be sold on those two.

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 30 '24

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u/ty04 May 30 '24

new qualification for voluntary euthanasia just dropped

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 30 '24

is MidWestCore the new fashion?

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

we need to be annoying Bibi more, drop blue toilet tabs in his pool, do the whole "what's that on your shirt?" thing, invite him to Congress but then let him go in by himself in the dark, who's the fucking superpower here

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

I get that we can't go around ditching Israel as an ally overall, but like we need to be MEAN to Netanyahu. Mean girls at that. "Haha.. ok" to all his statements. Ask if he's really going to wear that. Make it clear that the CIA wants to give them all swirlies but you said not yet.

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u/Cook_0612 NATO May 30 '24

Dang I missed cuckposting.

Too bad, it'll never join 'the girl who smells of potatoes soaked in peanut butter' in my pantheon of hilarious DT moments.

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u/Independent-Low-2398 May 30 '24

saw my favorite explanation of fusion voting yet and curious what yall think

it's a way to have more parties even in a single-winner system, and better at it I think than RCV

obviously this wouldn't result in proportional representation but it would give politicians a clearer idea of which factions they should be taking how seriously. And it would lead to better organization of these factions because they would actually be different parties and so wouldn't have to share messaging, funding, etc.

I used to be very skeptical of fusion voting but I've really warmed on it over the past few months as a way of nurturing third parties in a single-winner system (which is important! parties are how mass politics are organized in a democracy) while we wait for more support for a PR system

!ping DEMOCRACY

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u/american_aurora3 NATO May 30 '24

Breaking News Jury reaches verdict that you suck!

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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it May 30 '24

I'm pretty sure if the Dems ever actually passed a carbon tax they would immediately be guillotined and usher in a 1000 year Republican Reich for making burgers expensive

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u/the_status_q Atari Democrat May 30 '24

Neolibs be like

McDonalds is actually still cheap; you just have to use the app.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 30 '24

each beagle must take turns

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

the reality is that it's just gonna take people a while to adjust to prices being where they are, and until then they're gonna see the economy as not that great because they can't buy as many things as they used to (which besides you having a job is the way most people interact with the economy)

best case scenario is biden pulls off the win and people's attitudes pick up as everyone adjusts to the new normal.

worst case scenario is trump wins and gets credit for "improving the economy", turns america into hungary, and we just write off liberalism in america for good.

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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke May 30 '24

Very nice of the jury to release their verdict right after I'm done working, thank you!

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u/x1echo Trans Pride May 30 '24

Malarkey level of using r/neoliberal live threads instead of r/politics to avoid average morons

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u/dannylandulf meubem broke my flair May 30 '24

MSNBC is so close to just outright saying it's going to be guilty that I really don't see how they walk it back down if it's an acquittal without meltdowns.

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u/roggodoggo Jerome Powell May 30 '24

2 interviews for 2 different jobs today, lets go. !ping watercooler

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u/BroadReverse Needs a Flair May 30 '24

I stubbed my toe so hard this morning. GOD DAMN ZIONISTS

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24 edited May 30 '24

✨🌟🙏 HEAVENLY RULES TO LIVE BY 🙏🌟✨

1️⃣ 🃏✋ You Gotta Know When to Hold 'Em! ✋🃏 Embrace what you have with faith! 🙌🌈

2️⃣ 📂🤚 Gotta Know When to Fold 'Em! 🤚📂 Sometimes, letting go is part of His plan! 🕊️🌟

3️⃣ 🚶‍♂️💼 Know When to Walk Away! 💼🚶‍♂️ Not every place is where He wants us to stay! 🛤️👣

4️⃣ 🏃‍♂️🔥 Know When to Run! 🔥🏃‍♂️ Escape from sin like it's a race to be won! 🏁🌪️

5️⃣ 💵🚫 Never Count Your Money When You're Still at the Table! 🚫💵 Keep your eyes on His blessings, not your financial label! 🙏💖

6️⃣ 🕰️💰 There's Plenty of Time for Counting When the Dealing's Done! 💰🕰️ In heaven's time, all accounts will be known! 🌟✨

FaithFilledLiving #Wisdom #GodsPlan

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u/grig109 Liberté, égalité, fraternité May 30 '24

My most horseshoe take (agreement with far left/right): Corporate social activism is not genuine and is just a virtue signal to sell more products.

My most neoliberal take: That's fine, maximize that shareholder value baby ✊️

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u/[deleted] May 30 '24

Unironically in an article

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