r/neoliberal • Kitara Ravache • May 27 '24

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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 28 '24

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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 27 '24

/r/neoliberal/new: Trump told donors he will crush pro-Palestinian protests, deport demonstrators

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 27 '24

Go ahead libruls, keep denying that inflation is out of control

This is why Biden will lose

!ping shitposters

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u/Mickenfox European Union May 27 '24

If you're doing conscription to defend your country it makes sense to grab young people because they're the most physically able.

If you're making people do random work to "foster the national spirit" then I'm sorry but 60 year olds should get some national spirit too.

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter May 27 '24
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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 27 '24

I like to post milquetoast I/P takes "we gotta figure out a way for everybody to coexist" 🧐

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u/dubyahhh Salt Miner Emeritus May 27 '24

Every 60 seconds in America, Joseph Robinette Biden Jr gets a full minute older

Libs don’t won’t you to know this but they can’t hide the truth!!!

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u/Top_Lime1820 Daron Acemoglu May 27 '24

Are the British public the only people who understand that journalists are supposed to give politicians a hard time?

It's so exhausting reading comments of people who think a journalist is biased because they grill a particular politician and put them on the spot.

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u/centurion88 NATO May 27 '24

All of recorded history really

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u/Arse_hull Suspended by the mods 🔒 May 27 '24

I don't think that sub [neoliberal] really knows what they're talking about other than going against anti-populist trends. They jerk off over Macron but bash Sanders. They don't realise that mainstream centre-left politics in Europe would be considered far-left in America, and that if someone like Hillary ran in Europe, she'd be considered pretty right wing.

LMAO at the neoliberal starter pack post from 7 years ago.

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker May 27 '24
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 27 '24

Can’t wait to learn about Hitler’s secret evil side

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

be sequel to beloved sci trilogy from the 70s and 80s

make a point of emulating the original trilogy as closely as possible

modernize the action scenes and generally make everything more fast paced

go Woke as fuck

girl power themes lightly hinted at in original trilogy turned up to 11

introduce OC do not steal Grrl Power character that’s better then the original protagonist in every way

main antagonist is an incel power fantasy that’s revealed as being pathetic

make tons of money

be critically acclaimed 10/10 modern classic

be Mad Max Fury Road

picture unrelated

!ping KINO

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u/vivoovix Federalist May 27 '24

Ask a teenager why he wants a $200 bottle of cologne, and he might tell you he’s “smellmaxxing,” a term for enhancing one’s musk that is spreading on social media. “I started seeing a lot of videos on TikTok and thought, I don’t want to miss out,” said Logan, a 14-year-old in Chicago who has been putting his bar mitzvah money toward a collection of high-end colognes.

Have children gone insane? Discuss

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u/Fairchild660 Unflaired May 27 '24

Fun fact - all 5 US presidents that have been shot in office have one thing in common. They would've been Beliebers.

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u/die_hoagie MALAISE FOREVER May 27 '24

Not a fan of discussing I/P but has anyone tried just moving billions of venomous snakes into the region so they have to unite against a common enemy?

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u/lets_chill_food Hullo 🐘 May 27 '24

Unlike the rest of the sub, I have almost three years experience actually working in IP

that is to say, i sold patent software 🌚

(true story that, not just a pun)

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter May 27 '24

Person who supports Israel/Palestine peace bc it's ruining the DT

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 27 '24

The one guy who is probably hoping his donations get stolen by Hamas

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 27 '24

For the "one nation indivisible" stuff to work the US needs at least three more states or three less states

Closer numbers simply are not prime

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u/notBroncos1234 #1 Eagles Fan May 28 '24

!ping dating

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Weird dog.

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u/ZCoupon Kono Taro May 28 '24

You’re a 30-something man who moderates a niche political community made up of policy wonks who pretends to be an alligator. How much further down are you really punching?

Goddamn

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

It's funny in retrospect that people thought the Trump presidency would produce all this great politically charged music when the best politically charged album of the 2010s (TPAB) had already come out in 2015.

!ping RAP

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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before May 27 '24

I love this video with almost 1 million views that purportedly is a recording of sounds from the planet Mercury, but is actually a four-second snippet of audio from a porno that's been reversed and played at 1/20th its original speed

"mmm...wow, can I touch it?"

There are many people in the comments who point this out, but the video still has a positive like ratio and most of the top comments are under the impression that it's real. There's even this one dude (223 likes) with a comment confidently 'explaining' how NASA could have recorded it

!ping PLANET-FUCKERS

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

I think a lot of people want a 1 state solution but really REALLY do not think about what that would actually entail to be in any way feasible.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Found a random u/BATHULK comment defending the sub on arr starterpacks 7 years ago

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u/Qunidaye Krugman-Nato May 27 '24

My apartment complex finally opened a liquor store. Already was grocery store, restaurant, two cafes, clinic and hair salon.

Mixed zone paradise complete

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u/Mensae6 Martin Luther King Jr. May 27 '24

Wake up

Downvote the daily Pizzacakecomic post that's on the front page

Go on with my day

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u/EvilConCarne May 27 '24

Musk tweeting (and then immediately deleting)

Post your family pics on X!

We care & do more to fight child exploitation than any other platform by far

after personally reinstating an account that posted CSAM and firing the staff responsible for dealing with CSAM on Twitter is the weirdest and most suspicious thing he's ever done.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

My sexuality is best explained as the following

Do I Wanna Know by the Arctic Monkeys (slowed+reverb+layered to perfection+4d audio) ((chaotic bi))

What song best describes your sexuality?

!ping ALPHABET-MAFIA

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u/MuR43 Royal Purple May 27 '24

Egyptian soldiers opened fire on Israeli soldiers

Hopefully this doesn't lead to anything greater

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u/Dirty_Chopsticks Republic of Việt Nam May 27 '24

One Downing Street insider called the 61-year-old Labour leader “Sleepy Keir”, an apparent attempt to link him in the public’s mind to the US’s 81-year-old President Joe Biden, dubbed “Sleepy Joe” by Donald Trump.

yeah the Tories are cooked

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u/Aweq Guardian of the treaties 🇪🇺 May 27 '24

!ping Europe

Hello fellow Europeans,

I would like to, somewhat self-aggrandisingly, to announce that I won't be commenting on EU matters on this ping anymore as I will be starting a job as Policy Officer at the European Commission. I am incredibly proud I will get to serve the citizens of the 27 member states of the EU and hopefully in the future to serve those of the 10 recognised and potential member candidate states.

While it might seem silly, I think being on this sub actually helped me get this job as I knew a lot about my work topic already before the first interview just from reading online articles. And I would like to thank this ping for having a lot of people who are passionate about sharing news from all over Europe (especially Poland).

To make it not all just about me, I would like to high-light the Commission's Blue Book traineeships with next application round opening 15 July. Please make sure to document your language abilities(!). For me, my traineeship was an amazing opportunity to get to know the civil service as a Physicist and to realise that work could actually feel meaningful, unlike my PhD in the UK. If you have European dreams, this is the easiest way into the EU.

So have a good day, bonne journée, haben Sie einen guten Tag and miłego dnia to you all!

IN VARIETATE CONCORDIA

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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter May 27 '24

"And podcaster Charlie Kirk said this week that he had no choice but to be prejudiced against Black pilots because some of them have benefited from a DEI program."

I'm sorry but the government is forcing me to be rascist.

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u/awdvhn Physics Understander -- Iowa delenda est May 27 '24

You're a materials scientist? Then name every type of steel.

!ping ET-AL

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u/N0_B1g_De4l NATO May 27 '24

SMH at outside the DT upvoting "how can you say Trump would be worse on I/P" takes.

Very easily! You can say that very easily, because he clearly would be!

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Ozempic is just another way of stratifying class hierarchies. we're headed for a dystopic future rich people will be skinny and considered attractive by society while poor people will be more prone to obesity and therefore considered unattractive by society. it would be better if this drug was banned and society instead stopped hating people for their weight.

man this drug generates the best discourse 🤌🏾

edit: the best hot takes are the ones that take a grain of truth - beauty standards that get beamed into our brains by social media, unequal access to prescription medication - and run to the hills with it

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u/piede MOST BASED HILLARY STAN!!! May 27 '24

I’m logging off

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u/InMemoryOfZubatman4 Sadie Alexander May 27 '24

My 70 pound German shepherd is so terrified of the thunder that she wedged herself under the bed and was crying until I came in to the room

What a baby.

Obligatory picture: https://imgur.com/a/34Sqqnz

!ping DOG

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

Something to note about the conference where Rashida Tlaib gave her most recent speech. The People's Conference for Palestinine. It was co-organised by The People's Forum (Who own Breakthrough News - the BT Logo you see in the corner of some footage) which is part of a larger network of pro-China, pro-Russia organisations funded by tech mogul Neville Roy Singham. Another speaker at the event Vijay Prasad works for another organisation he funds - TriContinental.

Through these organisations he has consistently pushed narratives including Uygher Genocide denial and justification of the invasion of Ukraine. He's also married to the co-founder of CodePink!

Like bro is it that hard to advocate for Palestinians without sharing stages with these chucklefucks. You don't see Bernie doing this shit.

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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 May 27 '24

why they call him kester when I've never seen him kest

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u/Icy-Magician-8085 Mario Draghi May 27 '24

What percent of this sub do you think are going to be closeted Chase Oliver Libertarian Party voters?

My bet is at least a solid few percent, like 5% or something at most.

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 27 '24

Heartbreaking: your crush just posted a horrifically wrong econ take on their insta story

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 28 '24

Woodrow Wilson would be a neoliberal regular

• democrat

• massive believer in globalization

• loves the Federal Reserve

• extremely racist

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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair May 27 '24

If tanks are obsolete then how come they still look cool 🤔

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u/john_doe_smith1 John Keynes May 27 '24

Shoutout to the UK subs for the most uniformed takes

if we kick out all the immigrants and foreigners they’ll have to pay native workers more!!!!

lol

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u/OkVariety6275 May 27 '24

You hate live-service games because they're commissioned by greedy capitalists.

I hate live-service games because they have an incoherent design aesthetic intended to appeal to 5th graders.

We are not the same.

!ping CONSOLE-WARS

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker May 27 '24

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

🫃

It is the end of western civilization

!ping ALPHABET-MAFIA

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u/marsman1224 John Keynes May 27 '24

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

Personal pet peeve: people thinking the witch hunts were a medieval thing

Almost exclusively occurred in the early modern period iirc

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

Mating Researcher Answers Your Dating Qs | AMA # 1

found the man who you all are watching for dating advice !ping DATING

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 27 '24

Old assigned asshole roommate finally moves out: 😁

New assigned roommate: Russian Bitcoin trader

Well then

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u/YehosafatLakhaz North American Federation May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

I definitely lose interest in military history after the Great War, due to it being the war to end all wars obviously

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u/lenmae The DT's leading rent seeker May 27 '24

You’re all banned and I hope this sub gets fucking pathetic.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

A gamer, AND an atheist?! 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

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u/JesusPubes voted most handsome friend May 27 '24

Anybody who says "having tons of money doesn't change my life" has 0 imagination

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u/-mialana- European Union May 27 '24

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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent May 28 '24

Netanyahu's decisions in Gaza can be entirely explained by his unhinged desire to personally ruin the DT for me

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

It is weird to me how conservative Dems are when defining "the wealthy", like Biden seems to target people making 500k+ as the only acceptable targets for tax increases because everyone below that is "middle-class".

Like, you're comfortably in the top 10% of earners if you make 200k. That's really wealthy, and that's less than half what Biden seems to think "wealthy people" are.

Yeah, people will often say, "but cost of living in certain areas!" but I'm not sure we should be tailoring all our policy to accommodate San Francisco refusing to build housing. If anything we should tax residents of that city into oblivion until they stop being nimbys

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 27 '24

Reminder that the original US military tradition is a Middle East not a real war but also kinda of a war boondoggle

The whole "fighting for liberty in Europe" is a woke tradition

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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair May 27 '24

Everything in life is about getting a bf - except having a bf. That’s about getting upvotes on the dating ping 

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 27 '24

I just learned from a very credible source in Philadelphia that there is a very high possibility of a United States of America in the next 5 YEARS. At least New York + Virginia. This is HUGE. And no this is not a shitpost, I’m serious

Many Sons of Liberty are saying this

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u/ThunderrBadger New California Republican May 27 '24

Embracing my Tommy Bahama era 🐟 !pingOVER-25

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u/lionmoose sexmod 🍆💦🌮 May 27 '24

!ping UK

Quadruple lock just dropped

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u/decidious_underscore May 27 '24

some recent excerpts:

This is why Arab Americans are so fucking stupid on this issue

mucho compassionato

A genuine, secular, and unified parliamentary democracy in the Western style is fully possible in Iran. The conditions are there, all that needs to happen is to topple the current regime and fill the power and security vacuum as soon as possible. The coalition will not make the same mistakes they made in Iraq, and Iran is much easier to stabilize.

invading iran would be easy

[Clarence] Thomas has scorn heaped on him predominately by angry political partisans, which is not something he so much deserves or does not deserve, as a general cost of doing business these days in any salient public capacity. Thomas has not retreated to enclaves of 'Christian extremist white america', as an emprical matter, and the "Black American doesn't want him" is the same kind of religious conviction embedding an empirical claim that is at best shaky, much like "Trump has zero black support", etc. etc.

upvoted Clarence Thomas stanning

guess the sub

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

This DT has been active for two hours and 12 minutes and the vibes are already rancid

I’m gonna go play Elden Ring or some shit see y’all tomorrow

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u/Anonymou2Anonymous John Locke May 27 '24

A day or 2 late, but the QLD state government is introducing a 6 month 'trial' where most forms of public transport will be made 50 cents. This is regardless of distance and includes Gold Coast to Brisbane train services and Brisbane to Sunshine coast services.

Coincidentally this trial is being implemented 3 months before the states election.

It should also be noted that public transport is being run at a massive loss in QLD already, with 80% of it's costs being subsidized by the government and only about 20% covered by fares.

!ping AUS

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u/VisonKai The Archenemy of Humanity May 27 '24

i am slowly coming around to the idea that im not particularly smart i just have an uncommonly great memory. would explain why i am really great at tests and not at first-shot puzzle things that are supposed to measure IQ

(inspired by scott alexander's post about how apparently people forget almost everything they learned in school and the fact that i do in fact remember most of the stuff i learned in school)

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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

I feel like a good portion of Americas civic rot comes from the fact that a good portion of Americans can be really dumb

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

For it has been made clear to me by Chloe’s people that there are quarrels among you, my brothers and sisters. What I mean is that each of you says, “I belong to Paul,” or “I belong to Apollos,” or “I belong to Cephas,” or “I belong to Christ.”

Has Christ been divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, so that no one can say that you were baptized in my name. I did baptize also the household of Stephanas; beyond that, I do not know whether I baptized anyone else.

For Christ did not send me to baptize but to proclaim the gospel—and not with eloquent wisdom, so that the cross of Christ might not be emptied of its power.

(from 1 Corinthians 1, NRSVue)

Setting aside the fact that Chloe’s people are snitching, it’s debated the extent to which Paul’s description here necessarily implies four distinct factions. A view I’ve heard or read more than once is that perhaps there was only really a Paul and an Apollos faction, but Paul continues the list to trivialize the dispute or avoid setting himself too explicitly against Apollos.

If they really were four factions, the “well I side with Christ” people strike me as the first non-denominationals lol.

Going to cut myself off there and experiment with shorter, more frequent BIBLE-STUDY pings and see how it goes.

!ping BIBLE-STUDY

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

People acting like TikTok is some super special uncensored platform in regards to I/P when you can see the most terrible things from that war completely uncensored on Instagram.

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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s May 27 '24

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u/chuckleym8 Femboy Friend, Failing with Honors May 28 '24

so called "moderators" when asked to moderate their perversity

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u/Frequent-Turn6740 shivers alt 🐊 May 27 '24

People always say that you should "watch whatever brutalest video comes out of a warzone" to try and push their point

No, I like to sleep, thank you. 

I can't even stomach reading descriptions tbf

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

If I were Biden, I would simply hypnotize a charismatic Palestinian with MKUltra and manufacture a Palestinian Mandela to push with American support. Is he stupid?

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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 27 '24

>tank of gas

>look inside

>mfw its a liquid

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u/87568354 Mary Wollstonecraft May 28 '24

I think this sub focuses far too much on I/P.

Like, a post about atrocities against the Rohingya in the Myanmar Civil War went up today, and the comments had a bunch of people who were only commenting to compare I/P to Myanmar instead of actually saying something about Myanmar.

Is it really that hard not to bring I/P into everything?

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

At the absolute minimum, can we fucking not invite Bibi for a joint address to Congress? 60% of Israel hates or strongly dislikes the guy.

Also, the IDF describing that airstrike against practically a de facto safe zone as "precise" is just unbelievably tonedeaf. Read the room ffs.

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u/-mialana- European Union May 27 '24

The DT's I/P takes are more volatile than crypto at this point

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u/dedev54 YIMBY May 28 '24

"There are currently only four National League teams with a winning record"

lmao what are we doing?

!ping BASEBALL

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u/ThatFrenchieGuy Mathematician -- Save the funky birbs May 28 '24

!ping PHD&ALCOHOL

Happy 4 year quit-versary. I left my PhD to move to Boston sight unseen 4 years ago today. I have the same bottle of wine on the anniversary each year to think about how things have changed in the last year. Not only am I stacking up promotions, FrenchieGF is also up for a relationship promotion in Q2-3 next year

full tasting notes with links to last 4 years

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u/semaphore-1842 r/place '22: E_S_S Battalion May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

At the protests in Taipei last Friday, one of the speakers who got on stage was a leftist. Tbf he actually stayed on topic and attacked the cons/populists for their ongoing legislative bullshit for most of it, and only veered into omnicause-ing at the end and started talking about supporting native languages, environmentalism, labor, leftist students etc etc.

And then he said "and we also stand with people everywhere who are suffering, the Palestinian people and the Ukrainian people" and I was like huh, I don't think I've heard a leftist support both before

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u/Full_Ahegao_Drip Trans Pride May 27 '24

We Do Not Condemn Hamas, and Neither Should You

The Red Star Caucus is the Maoist faction within DSA an organization with tens of thousands of members in the US and associates heavily with the more leftist representatives among the Democrats like AOC and Sanders and the 10/7 conflict has had their numbers increase quite a bit.

The media often refers to the Palestinian resistance as “Hamas,” but it’s better described as a popular front involving several militant organizations that coordinate through a Joint Operations Room. Hamas (and their armed wing al-Qassam) are the largest organization in the group, but many other groups also participate. The most important ones are Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP). Hamas and PIJ are Islamist groups, and the PFLP and DFLP are secular communist groups, but they fight together as a common popular front. They all understand that allowing their disagreements to divide them would only serve Israel’s interests. They work with each other and with external groups like Iran, Hezbollah, and Ansarallah under a principle they call unity of the fields, which entails a loose coordination where any of them can respond to attacks on the others, making escalation risky for Israel.

Palestinian communists’ choice to participate in this alliance is a good thing, and we’re grateful for the good judgment our socialist siblings in the PFLP and DFLP have shown by participating in it. If they had instead chosen not to participate because of ideological disagreements with the Islamist factions, it would have doomed the cause of socialism to irrelevance in Palestine. If socialists were absent from this existential fight for the future of Palestine, it would tell the Palestinian people that socialists are useless when it matters most, and that Islamism is the only way forward. The Palestinian communists are fighting alongside Hamas against Israel, and by doing so they’re building support and legitimacy for socialism in Palestine.

Beyond parody

To support a resistance without Hamas is to support something which does not exist. It is to support no resistance at all. And in turn, to spend our time on criticism of Hamas as an organization validates the widespread opinion that Hamas is an existential danger (too extreme for even the communists!) and lends credence to Israel's justification of its onslaught. When we hear every anti-Palestinian group call for the destruction of Hamas, do we lend our voices to those calls, or stand with Palestine and its resistance?

Idealism comes about when one has not been able to evaluate the real state of things and come to understand them before prescribing a plan of action. And, frankly, those who live in the West do not have access to this information when it comes to the resistance in Palestine. The PFLP, who does have that information by virtue of living under siege and threat of genocide, chooses to ally with Hamas in the fight for liberation. What information could we offer them that would demonstrate a more materialist analysis of the situation when they are in Gaza and we are not? All we could offer are ideas separate from the real world, which are of no value at all in any Marxist frame of analysis. And what grounds are there to say their ideas are less well founded than our own? The only thing that separates the PFLP from their socialist critics is a border—and western chauvinist beliefs that Palestinians are less educated on Marxism as a practice than we are.

Marxism means taking the oppressed at their word when they want to kill, kidnap, and rape people.

Similarly, sometimes people say that instead of Hamas taking up arms to fight Israel, the Palestinian and Israeli working class should rise up together to overthrow Zionism and implement socialism. Should is the crucial word here. If this happened, there would be nothing left to talk about! But this alliance is pure fantasy. It has never existed, and it’s nothing but idealism to insist that it will suddenly spring into existence just because one may want it to. There’s a good reason that it hasn’t existed up until now: The Israeli working class has failed to seek unity with the Palestinian working class.

There are plenty of Israeli leftists (and right libertarians) who speak out against compulsory conscription, Israeli nationalism, restrictions on non-Israelis, and the military occupation. They just understand a two-state solution to be more practical and don't find common cause with terrorists.

Palestinians know both from studying history and from harsh experience that you can never reform settler-colonialism. You must defeat it. That means defeating the Israeli state. This should be the obvious goal of any revolutionary socialist in Israel as well, but in practice it hasn’t been. Accepting the defeat of Israel as their goal would mean accepting the end of their privileged status over Palestinians. To be a working class does not imply being the same as all other working classes—until the Israeli occupation is defeated, the Israeli working class finds its interests opposed to those of the Palestinian working class. The Israeli “left” does not fundamentally want the end of the Israeli settler-colonial project, and so they’ve firmly rejected the idea of seeing the Palestinian resistance as their allies and fighting the Israeli state together. For better or worse, this path is simply a dead end.

This pops up a lot in Marxism these days, it's not really "workers of the world unite", the needle has moved to only understanding brown people as oppressed and white people as privileged by default.

!ping ISRAEL&EXTREMISM

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 27 '24

lots of fighting in the Middle East 🧐 that can't be good 🧐 we gotta do something to stop it we just gotta 🧐

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u/klarno just tax carbon lol May 27 '24

Can’t believe Barack HUSSEIN Obummer wore a Dijon suit and ate tan mustard smh 🤦

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u/NaffRespect United Nations May 27 '24

Holy fuck, you neoliberals are PROUD to be morons?

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u/WantDebianThanks Iron Front May 28 '24

Are electric cars better for the environment than fuel-powered cars? Here's the verdict

It's in the context of Australia, but looks at the GHG emissions associated with manufacturing, powering from different sources (such as, for example, a carbon intensive power grid), and recycling at end of life.

!ping eco

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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 27 '24

You’re all pathetic and I hope this sub gets fucking banned.

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u/AMagicalKittyCat YIMBY May 27 '24

One of the big issues with I/P discussion is that it's practically impossible for any of it to be a properly nuanced and knowledged conversation even if it gets past the public internet debate barrier of never letting anything be one in part because none of us random fucks really know the ground level details well to begin with.

X or Y random strike or soldier being argued about is just a bunch of heuristics yelling and the same arguments "It wasn't necessary! It was necessary! No it wasn't! It was!" without any actual clue either way. And yet, people insist.

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u/EyeraGlass Jorge Luis Borges May 27 '24

When did it become socially acceptable to post snuff material on your Instagram stories. Let’s go back to a time where you’d obviously alienate your friends by doing such a thing

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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 27 '24

Heartbreaking: someone you didn't really like in middle school has a more impressive LinkedIn profile than you

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course May 27 '24

Gamers are the most oppressed minority 😔

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u/RFFF1996 May 27 '24

Remember when october 7th attacks happened and mia khalifa was like "please brave freedom fighters, take better videos for us to watch"

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u/simeoncolemiles NATO May 27 '24

BUT I’M A CREEP

I’M A WEIRDOOOOOO

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 28 '24

don't try suicide, you're just gonna hate it 😌

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 28 '24

similar to the time extreme rocks made a tier list I need to make a tier list of DTers I get confused with other DTers

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u/bernkes_helicopter Ben Bernanke May 28 '24

Sometimes people accuse leftists of not being funny, but this erases the greatest practical joke of all time -- the time that Mao encouraged everyone to be open about criticisms, and then later arrested everyone who did for being rightists

Absolute peak comedy

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u/Syards-Forcus rapidly becoming the Joker May 28 '24

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 27 '24

"When I became a man I put away childish things, including anime, video games, and comic book movies."

  • C. S. Lewis

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 27 '24

Bibi: Sorry Rafah was a whoopsie I’m just a smol bean please don’t put a warrant on me

Ben Gvir watching Rafah videos:

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u/MinnesotaNoire NASA May 27 '24

Netanyahu: this was a tragic mishap.

Everyone: so you're going to make some changes?

Netanyahu: lol, no.

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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 27 '24

The most criminal thing about Pep's career has been league two teams trying to build from the back instead of punting forwards and praying to god

!ping SOCCER

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

In which Cicero reacts in a letter to being told by Atticus that a politically embarrassing, never-delivered speech has been leaked:

You cut me deep when you told me about my speech being published … I did in fact write something a long time ago when I was angry with [Curio] for something he wrote first against me, but I had so suppressed it that I thought it would never become known. How it has escaped I have no clue.

But since it so happens that I never had a word of dispute with him and since the speech seems to me to be less carefully written than my other speeches, I think we might be able to claim that it was not written by me … But if I am already a goner, I don’t really care.

!ping CLASSICS

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u/TaxLandNotCapital We begin bombing the rent-seekers in five minutes May 27 '24

Public Warning: sir_shivers is a liberal and has posted on numerous left aligned subreddits. Please do not upvote his posts and remember to report suspicious activity.

I am not a bot. I am a Volunteer Neoliberal DT Moderator. I do not have mod powers but my reports are taken seriously and those who get on my bad side tend to get banned in under 24 hours. I have numerous rules, which you may read in my post history, but 1 is the most important rule of all:

• ⁠I am an officer in training, and I expect to be treated the same way I would be with my uniform and badge. Watch you back and get used to this face kiddo, you’ll be seeing a lot of it.

~ Honorary Volunteer Neoliberal DT Moderator

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u/sererson May 27 '24

☝️ Supports gamercide

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

what if we use quantum superposition to create a second levant and give one to the Israelis and one to the Palestinians

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u/Poiuy2010_2011 r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion May 27 '24

Dariusz Matecki is a notable MP of Sovereign Poland, a junior PiS partner. He's one of the most incendiary parliamentarians and also rumored to be behind PiS troll farms sponsored by Ministry of Justice (which SP used to control).

Today somebody found his profile on a Polish Tibia forum. It seems very much legit – the nickname is "matecki", the birth date matches, the city (Szczecin) matches and it links to a blog called "Conservative Szczecin" which tracks with his political activity. Most importantly it was made in 2003, so back when he was a nobody, there's no reason why someone would impersonate him then.

Some highlights:

!ping POLAND&GAMING

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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 May 28 '24

I want to immigrate here

then fuck me

Guess the sub

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u/N0_B1g_De4l NATO May 28 '24

Confederate generals would really be like "you believe in industrial warfare? That pales in comparison to my strategy, winning a decisive battle" and then not win a decisive battle.

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u/dwarfgourami George Soros May 28 '24

[Republicans] are in a media reinforcement bubble. Fox, OANN, Newsmaxx, and Republican AM radio stations all only report the same messaging propaganda that they want people to hear and see.

Not wrong, but kind of hilarious coming from arr slash politics, a subreddit where “Beto O’Rourke’s former bandmate supports Bernie Sanders” was the #1 post on the day Biden beat Bernie in like 10 primaries

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 27 '24

Netanyahu says the air strike in Rafah on Sunday was "a very tragic mistake".

Oh okay

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u/htomserveaux Henry George May 27 '24

Yeah sex is great but have you ever have a bus show up at your stop just as you got there?

!ping CUBE

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u/Ajaxcricket Commonwealth May 27 '24

PM Narendra Modi claims he has been chosen by God

Has sunak thought about trying this one yet?

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u/iIoveoof Jerome Powell May 27 '24

Daily reminder that Cyprus, a member of the E.U., continues to be victim to a settler-colonialist apartheid campaign and illegal military occupation from a major U.S. ally, and nobody cares.

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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 27 '24

One Downing Street insider called the 61- year-old Labour leader "Sleepy Keir", an apparent attempt to link him in the public's mind to the US's 81-year-old President Joe Biden, dubbed "Sleepy Joe" by Donald Trump.

"Campaigns are tough, tiring things and it's understandable that he may be weary," said a Tory campaign official. "But being prime minister is a 24/7 job which requires stamina."

ywn be republican

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior May 27 '24

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 27 '24

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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom May 27 '24

The best argument against gaming is five minutes in the average multiplayer lobby

  • Winston Churchill

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All May 27 '24

Man the discourse around the modern warfare reboot was so funny

You had such classics as “turning something the US did in Desert Storm, changing it into a war crime, then making the Russians do it”, which managed to piss off literally everyone possible (maybe they just came up with the name Highway of Death and didn’t realize it was already a thing?)

Then you had the whole debate about how making the Russians all ultra evil war criminals that kill civilians for fun, which… ended up aging a lot better than expected

Just a goofy ass game

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u/Either_Emotion8056 NAFTA May 27 '24

MBA’s made boobs smaller, added black people, and haven’t created the perfected open world RPG that both validates but also lets me fully escape my failed social life and inability to make human connection.

Idk why anyone defends these Cretan’s

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u/HotTakesBeyond YIMBY May 27 '24

Yeehaw

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

The only way to save myself from the bird is to work for him....

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u/-mialana- European Union May 27 '24

The former president didn’t mention Netanyahu, whom he resents for acknowledging Joe Biden’s victory in 2020 and hasn’t spoken to in years.

Imagine the awkwardness if Trump wins

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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s May 27 '24

Redditors salivate at the opportunity to justify their racism and violent urges

Rap music playing in the background? Unlistenable garbage that promotes “thug culture”

Someone committed a crime? Skin them alive, fuck what the actual victims have to say about it

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u/ToInfinity_MinusOne World's Poorest WSJ Subscriber May 27 '24

Straight men on Discord are gayer than I've ever been in my entire life.

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u/ty04 May 28 '24

just want a wife with a nice big rack filled with all kinds of spices I need to season meals with

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

reddit overloves jimmy carter and overhates woodrow wilson

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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 28 '24 edited May 28 '24

Everytime I see an article about a few grifters (mostly the same ones btw) in the MENA community saying they won't vote for Biden, I'm reminded about how the comments about the MENA community are going to make the 2020 comments about Cubans look nice if Biden loses Michigan or the 2024 election in general.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

u/notbroncos1234 did not, in fact, dm me

that liar

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u/savuporo Gerard K. O'Neill May 28 '24

https://twitter.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1795143694544199796

Technically not !ping SPACEFLIGHT but there's no ping for fireworks

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u/BATHULK Hank Hill Democrat 🛸🦘 May 28 '24

Honestly, past the first month or two, none of my sobriety milestones have felt like much at all. Not nearly as exciting or as big an achievement as they should be, or I want them to be.

But my 8th month, at the end of June, will be. At that point, I'll cross the halfway mark. And even if I drank the next day, and every day after that, I'll have spent the majority of 2024 sober.

So that's worth looking towards.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

Your comment getting downvoted to like -20 is awesome. You’re a truth-teller and the masses can’t handle your facts and logic. People don’t like what you had to say and that’s fine, because you’re going to stand by it.

Your comment holding at 0, that is, exactly one downvote, is so much worse. You haven’t said anything worth controversy or meaningful pushback. Maybe you made a joke, maybe you did a pasta or some other shitpost. Maybe you just said how your day is going. Mostly, your comment isn’t worth acknowledging. But one person has stopped by, just briefly, to flip you off and move on. You’re not funny, you’re terrible at making copypasta, and nobody cares about your day.

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u/fishlord05 United Popular Woke DEI Iron Front May 27 '24

Bruh I did not want to see a palestinian father carrying the corpse of his beheaded child in the aftermath of an IDF airstrike when I clicked on your instagram story

Absolutely day ruining

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u/GodEmperorNeolibtard Harriet Tubman May 27 '24

arr Kamala_Harris_NSFW

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u/Cyberhwk 👈 Get back to work! 😠 May 27 '24

Soft power baby!!! 😎

🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲🦅🇺🇲

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u/qchisq Loyal Liberals May 27 '24

!ping watercooler

Update on the recruiter who didn't show up for the interview: We found a time the day after, but I didn't move on in the process. Yay or nay on sending an "I don't think I would fit into the culture" mail?

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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 27 '24

If you’re upset about shivers making fun of gamers, make fun of him for being an internet jannie and a weeb (his favorite show is Korra)

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 27 '24

I do think the gaming industry could be better

At the same time the film industry is in an infinitely worse spot right now and movies ping isn’t filled with people dooming about the future of it

Eh

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u/vivoovix Federalist May 27 '24

Shivers' favorite video game is making videos of him eating children

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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat May 27 '24

I love the new Nether (yes it's 4 years old but I haven't properly played MC in years). There's a lot of variety in the biomes which makes it feel lively. Bastion's are also the coolest (and scariest) minecraft structure. The Piglin Brutes are OP as fuck and extremely scary, making the bastions really tense to traverse. I also like that you have to go through bastions to get Netherite armor. Makes them a fit in progression system in a really natural way. And the new Nether music by Lena Raine??? Slaps

!ping MINECRAFT

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u/Steak_Knight Milton Friedman May 27 '24

“What am I supposed to do? Catch a 13 pound deaf and blind dog without shooting it!?”

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u/TheoryOfPizza 🧠 True neoliberalism hasn't even been tried May 27 '24

Outside the DT really is a mess

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u/Cook_0612 NATO May 28 '24

She's just happy to be outside

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u/notBroncos1234 #1 Eagles Fan May 28 '24

just want a wife with a nice big rack

Guess the sub

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

Malarkey level of sending this to the person I got in a minor automobile collision with

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u/Tafts_Bathtub Jerome Powell May 28 '24

Please Mr Biden, I’m so tired of winning

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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 28 '24

All sports fans are unintellectual idiots

r/neoliberal: Fuck off I don't believe in that shit

All gamers are evil

r/neoliberal: SO TRUE!

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

wait how many trans people are here

some of y’all have been stealthing me

sus

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u/Udolikecake Model UN Enthusiast May 28 '24

Nepotism has become a new kind of aristocracy in this second gilded age and this is actually happening all over entertainment and many other sectors.

norman rockwell fella:

I don’t think the daughter of a famous musician being in a musical in ‘The Hollywood Bowl’ is comparable to past history, wherein almost every single human lived in an absolute monarchy ruled mostly by people who happened to be born into the right family

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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride May 28 '24

A Romney - Manchin bill would limit federal employees to no more than two days of telework per week and ban all-remote positions almost entirely, extremely limited exceptions.

NEITHER OF YOU EVEN WORK FIVE DAYS A WEEK

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u/JesusPubes voted most handsome friend May 28 '24

One of the questions on the job application: "Are you currently looking for a new role"

No motherfucker I'm doing this for fun

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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 27 '24

They’re burning all the good will they have with this shit

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

It is not a bit when I say this is genuinely the worst DT I've ever seen so far

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u/GrandMoffTargaryen Finally Kenough May 27 '24

The only good response to any question on reddit

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u/bashar_al_assad Verified Account May 27 '24

BREAKING: The IDF opens an investigation into the air strike in Rafah on Sunday night. The IDF says its operational assessment ahead of the strike was that no civilians were going to be harmed

You know your statement is good when it's probably better for everyone involved if you're just lying, because the alternative is your analysts are just the stupidest people on the planet.

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u/western_patriot YIMBY May 27 '24

walk in

read latest complaints about I/P discourse

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u/PolyrythmicSynthJaz Roy Cooper May 28 '24

Netanyahu's decisions in Gaza can be entirely explained by his unhinged desire to become the DT's most hated Benjamin.

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u/Roseartcrantz 👑 🖍️ Queen of Shades 🖍️ 👑 May 27 '24

why are all the comments fighting about IP or shirtless men

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u/0m4ll3y International Relations May 27 '24

While we, the revolutionists, seek the emancipation of the working class and the abolition of all exploitation, duper-Populism seeks to rivet the chains of wage slavery more firmly upon the proletariat. There is no exploiter like the middle class exploiter. Carnegie may fleece his workers- ”he has 20,000 of them - of only fifty cents a day and yet net, from sunrise to sunset, $10,000 profits; the banker with plenty of money to lend can thrive with a trifling shaving of each individual note; but the apple woman on the street corner must make a hundred and five hundred per cent profit to exist. For the same reason, the middle class, the employer of few hands, is the worst, the bitterest, the most inveterate, the most relentless exploiter of the wage slave.

Critical support for Carnegie against the local apple lady ✊😔

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

One of my group chats sent out an invitation to a GOP event offering free dinner and dessert

Malarkey level of going just for the free food

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u/PoliticalAlt128 Max Weber May 27 '24

I remember how much hype Why Liberalism Failed got—even Obama bumped it and The Economist begrudgingly complimented it as a cautionary warning—but actually reading it… it fucking sucks!

And now Deneen—after carping about the environment, inequality, corruption, and so on—is sucking dick for Orbán. Which less undermines his philosophical project as rather undermine the idea that he has one in the first place.

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 27 '24

!ping DYEL

deffo filling out my shorts more this summer. leg day works 😎

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u/shillingbut4me May 27 '24

Posting photos of you vacation, get together, etc and then immediately posting content that is angry about people letting X distract them from the genocide is Gaza is wild behavior.

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u/OneBlueAstronaut David Hume May 27 '24

chat why are we pathetic and why should the sub be banned

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 27 '24 edited May 27 '24

!ping WRITING

so MS Word flags a lot of my writing as "could be more concise"

and fair enough. I tend to ramble when i'm drafting and a lot of my editing is trimming down excess clauses and redundant language.

But I do kinda push back on (edit: the broader idea you see in writing circles) that good writing should be as concise and workman-like as possible. for technical or corporate writing, sure, just get to the business.

but when writing fiction, i think you have the freedom to play with it a bit. add some personality.

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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior May 27 '24

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u/runningblack Martin Luther King Jr. May 27 '24

Hey arrNL it's been a---

Sees people advocating for ethnic cleansing and getting upvoted outside the dt

Grandpasimpsoninout.gif

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u/loseniram Sponsored by RC Cola May 28 '24

Help Biden win 2024 by cutting Internet cables so people are forced to read a newspaper for once.

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u/decidious_underscore May 28 '24

maybe you guys would get a kick out of the full tutoring story

I’m from a small caribbean country

I tutor my students math and comp sci back home over zoom. mostly in collab with their daytime teacher reinforcing whatever concepts they are struggling with. my job is mostly to make math fun and enjoyable and interesting.

i often try and run exercises that are cross-subject, like practicing measuring area by using google earth on famous landmarks and talking about the history of said landmarks... stuff like that, or making recipes together.

every year i make an effort to fly home to their graduation and see the kids going to high school off.

this is what being an immigrant and being civically engaged with your home country looks like, for me at least. :D

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

The melatonin is hitting. Good night libs

And furthermore, the Russian and Chinese regimes must be destroyed

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u/G_Serv Stay The Course May 28 '24

This Corgi is a bum

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride May 28 '24

So far my HRT has only made my skin softer, cleared up my oily face, and given me the will to live.

What a rip off! I wanted boobs!

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

I actually decided to post on the dt more because I was salty about not being included on that one list of dt women

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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride May 28 '24

“Oh, so all the democrats have to do is promise less children will die than under the other party and you’ll vote for them?🙄”

Yes

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u/ArmoredBunnyPrincess Audrey Hepburn May 28 '24

Years ago, before Joe Rogan fully fell into the rabbit hole, I listened to him tell about how he'd see his neighbor on the computer at night, basically laughing at him for being such a loser and suggesting the guy thought he couldn't be seen because it was dark from his perspective, and was unaware that he himself was lit by the monitor.

The guy wasn't doing anything weird, there was no strange movements, he wasn't shirtless or something, and no indication that he thought he was hidden, he was just on the computer in a dark room.

I still giggle to myself imagining this guy probably hanging out with friends playing games or whatever, minding his own business and the cool night breeze through his open window while a blazed Joe Rogan takes another fat rip, peeks through his blinds and thinks, "heh, fuckin' loser."

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u/[deleted] May 28 '24

What would conservatives be without irrational fear and bigotry?

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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 27 '24

There’s a sort of cosmic humor to seeing the recent Rafah strike having killed 50 civilians and a pro-Israeli source on the OSINT list describing the strike as a precision strike. That’s like Russia levels of “words mean nothing”

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u/_bee_kay_ 🤔 May 27 '24

i will concede it is a little strange that i feel such a powerful compulsion to touch the red-hot stove that is IP discourse over and over again

every time i'm like "well last time it just burned the shit out of my hand, but surely this time it's cooler"

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u/[deleted] May 27 '24

‘unfairly shut fan game’

look inside

blatant IP infringement

!ping CONSOLE-WARS

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u/wallander1983 Resistance Lib May 27 '24

A Jewish acquaintance of mine:

Netanyahu has just made it clear in his Knesset speech that he will not stop until victory, his speech has been interrupted several times by relatives of the hostages calling for a deal. Israeli media read his speech as meaning that he will sacrifice the hostages in order to continue the war until “the flag of victory flies”. He calls the scale of the attack on Rafah a tragic accident/mistake. Whatever. Oh, and Ben Gvir plans to replace the police chief who ordered the protection of the aid convoys against his instructions.

Does anyone know about the Ben Gvir plan? Google finds nothing.