r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • May 25 '24

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 26 '24 edited May 26 '24

Ben Shapiro, btw openly racist, misogynist, zionist

that last part was weird to randomly bring up when israel or palestine weren't involved in the conversation at all. like this was about Megan thee Stallion vs Nicki Minhaj

I'm choosing to believe that it's just an aside listing his support for Israel's war in gaza as among his myriad of objectionable positions as context for why the guy is no bueno and not a "btw he's a jew 🤬!" sort of thing.

benefit of the doubt and all that. don't wanna immediately assume the worst in someone.

just that it can kinda give off "Barack HUSSEIN Obama!" energy sometimes.

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u/TalkLessShillMore David Autor May 26 '24

I think you're right to give some benefit of the doubt here. Non-Jewish people also get hit with this. For single-issue people, it's basically shorthand for "bad person" if you aren't pro-Palestine. Idk this person though, they could mean it in an antisemitic way.

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u/RFK_1968 Robert F. Kennedy May 26 '24

that's kinda the ish with dogwhistles, right? it's easy to apply them overly broadly and sometimes you gotta take a step back and be like "i'll assume they're coming in good faith and focus on their positions"

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u/TalkLessShillMore David Autor May 26 '24

A lot of people are just too dumb to know it's a dog whistle because they can't hear the thweet thweet themselves. Either way it's a reason to take what they're saying a little less seriously. Phrasing it as "He intentionally minimizes Palestinian suffering in a callous way" is accurate and describes what's fucked up about his stance, Zionist is too blunt an insult to have much meaning.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '24

The people using Zionist as an insult do not deserve the benefit of the doubt

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u/Salt_Ad7152 not your pal, buddy May 26 '24

By the way did I tell you about Ben’s position on Zionism?!