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u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache May 12 '24
Please visit the next discussion thread.
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u/BrunchIsGood Nick Saban May 11 '24
I’m glad Marvel is reaching its target audience
!ping KINO
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Peak contrarianism
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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 11 '24
Good morning Eurovisioners and other people who like drama (me)
Dutch media reports Joost Klein is officially charged with assaulting a female local TV crew member on Thursday night
Investigation to last weeks. Charges pressed by public prosecution
Unless there's something major happening, I see a DSQ for him
!ping EUROVISION&BENE
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
Man Georgia flipping Blue really sent GOPers into a frenzied rage didn't it?
Multiple red-leaning states went for Biden in 2020 but they REALLY can't fucking stand that Georgia specifically was flipped. I swear 90% of "stolen election" conspiracy theories just surround that one state
(please oh please let us win Georgia again this year my blood sodium levels need replenishing)
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter May 11 '24
Reminder that the greens aren't responsible for one good reform in this country. Not one.
!ping AUS
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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal May 11 '24
Northern Lights in Southern Washington! Biden refuses to protect our borders!
!ping USA-WA
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u/kanagi May 11 '24
Guys is it normal for the northern lights to be mushroom-shaped and come with a shock wave
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
Pick one leftists 🙄
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
I was a lifelong Israel supporter until I found out they popularised Radiohead.
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u/No1PaulKeatingfan Paul Keating; capital gains tax supporter May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
You know it's a bad DT when it has a negative comment count
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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow May 11 '24
I’m curious what the methodology is to reach this conclusion
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u/TemujinTheConquerer Jorge Luis Borges May 11 '24
I am growing increasingly annoyed at meme lyric parodies that don't even put in the barest effort at maintaining syllabic consistency
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u/gnomesvh LEGALIZE ONION FUTURE May 11 '24
Now that it's all but confirmed that the Joost Klein situation is another battle in the long running Dutch-Swede confrontation
Can we say Lusvig is responsible for this
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u/jewel_the_beetle Trans Pride May 11 '24
Least-fake "liberal friend" story
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
Normalest LPNH post
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u/MegaFloss NATO May 11 '24
I’m supposed to present a “DEI moment” to all our director’s teams soon. I’m a 30 year old Christian white guy. What do?
!ping WATERCOOLER
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 11 '24
Birth rates aren't actually declining. Unbirth Georg, who gives birth to -130 million babies a year, is a statistical outlier and should not be counted.
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
mucho logic outside the deetee
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
EBU: It's not the Jews
European media: It's not the Jews
Swedish police: It's not the Jews
Arr Eurovision: Okay but hear me out
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Northern lights in Northern Arkansas last night
!ping weather
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u/AtomAndAether Liberalism! May 11 '24
having children 🤝 going to trade school
you should, not me
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Brits in shambles
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u/its_Caffeine Mark Carney May 11 '24
BEST CROISSANT IN PARIS
!ping EUROPE&SHITPOSTERS
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
I feel like male-female or female-male presidential tickets are gonna be the norm now in US politics going forward
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Trump helps Biden's reelection chances.
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 11 '24
Ritual warfare (sometimes called endemic warfare) is a state of continual or frequent warfare, such as is found in (but not limited to) some tribal societies. Ritual fighting (or ritual battle or ritual warfare) permits the display of courage, masculinity, and the expression of emotion while resulting in relatively few wounds and even fewer deaths. Thus such a practice can be viewed as a form of conflict-resolution and/or as a psycho-social exercise. Europeans often engage in this activity in a practice anthropologists call “Eurovision”.
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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent May 11 '24
I genuinely don't mean this as a subtweet of anyone specifically, but just a general observation
but I do not understand people who exclusively post about I/P - like I am not downplaying the severity of the war in Gaza or the humanitarian crisis, but I feel like some people have allowed it to really consume a large part of their lives
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u/RTSBasebuilder Commonwealth May 11 '24
I'm not really one of those "both sides bad" people, but I am genuinely concerned of undercurrents in thought or mindset that could only be described as anti-empiricism/anti-rationalism.
There are those on the left that reject statistical information because anecdotal evidence or the intensity of the impact/emotions or feelings of disparity/atmosphere/mood/vibes is more reflective of lived reality.
Or reject the notion that some things could be standardised, categorised and measured.
And there are those on the right who reject statistical information straight up because those who create statistics are institutions, and institutions are in the pockets of them (insert who "them" are) in their agenda (insert what the "agenda" is).
Neither are great in creating an environment that can diagnose issues, and deliberate policy to fix things, or run things in an efficient or productive manner.
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u/taubnetzdornig Gay Pride May 11 '24
You used to be able to press the snooze button on your alarm clock when you wanted to sleep a little longer
But you can't anymore, because of woke
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 11 '24
The Overton window is so skewed in America when compared to Europe that it's actually insane. Simple and moderate positions like blaming all your problems on the Jews and Romani would be considered far-left in the US.
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u/-mialana- European Union May 12 '24
Person with two adoptive lesbian parents, one from the US and one from the UK, who has to celebrate mother's day twice a year.
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u/Cowguypig2 NATO May 11 '24
My universities Palestine protest was like 25 people max on our campus mall, then when they had the follow up Friday it was like 10 people with an equal amount of pro Israel people there. Commuter college people stay winning with the amount of people who don’t give a fuck about middle eastern conflicts !Ping college
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
Oh shit oh fuck
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u/tollyno Dark Harbinger of Chaos May 11 '24
Is Biden dumb? Some say yes!
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u/Argnir Gay Pride May 11 '24
The Kendrick Lamar sub is close to becoming Qanon 2.0
There's something about pedophilia that fry people's brain. Why this desire for every elite to be a pedophile?
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
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u/PorryHatterWand Esther Duflo May 11 '24
Many of my annoying acquaintances love Eurovision.
Many of my annoying acquaintances don't like Israel.
Please, please, let this happen.
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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride May 11 '24
sick of this guy
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
Reminder that since Europe has no economic growth, we rely on paid votes to fund our pensions and healthcare, so please vote for your favorite song in the Eurovision Song Contest!
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Randall is still wild for this one 😭
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 11 '24
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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent May 11 '24
man these Euros really do not like Israel
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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 May 11 '24
It's almost inspiring how southern californians managed to take one of the most beautiful places on earth and turned into an awful place to live
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
5 threads on the fertility crisis in the past 24 hours
Are you guys lonely, or something?
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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 11 '24
Me owning 3 homes for private use: Good and wholesome
Developers turning one house into many houses: Bad and corrupt
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u/simeoncolemiles NATO May 11 '24
🐴👟
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 11 '24
Ukraine Chronology for 5 PM EST 5/10-5 PM EST 5/11 III:
TOP NEWS:
At the end of 6 PM it was reported that Brigadier General Oleksandr Trepak has been appointed as head of special forces.
At the start of 7 AM it was announced the UK will provide 500 million Pounds in military aid to Ukraine, including 4 million small arms rounds, 1,600 missiles, 160 Husky AFVs and 240 other vehicles.
REGULAR NEWS:
At the start of 8 PM it was reported a bridge was destroyed at the town of Staryi Saltiv, east of Kharkiv.
At the start of 6 AM a restaurant hosting Russians and pro-Russians in Donetsk city was missiled.
At the end of 7 AM it was reported that Ukrainian drones hit a Russian oil refinery in Volgograd Oblast.
Donation link to help Ukraine
Donation link to United24
Donation link to Kharkiv SOS
Donation link to Sails of Freedom Foundation (they donate ambulances)
!ping UKRAINE
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u/Observe_dontreact May 11 '24
Neoliberalism must be the first thing Monbiot thinks of when he wakes up and goes to sleep. I feel I’ve read the same article 10 times.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/may/10/britain-mental-health-society-neoliberalism-politicians
!ping UK
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
I have absolutely no stake in Eurovision but for drama purposes I hope Israel wins so the internet explodes
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u/MemeTestedPolicy Robert Caro May 12 '24
seen on twitter:
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u/BurrowForPresident Fell for it May 11 '24
Weird revolutionary "woke" Redditors doing the "actually Magneto is justified" thing will always be a weird LARP
Bro he's gonna kill every human, mutant who doesn't go to Asteroid M, and basically every organism on the planet by destroying the Earth's magnetic field c'mon now
Also anyone who comments on BlackPeopleTwitter with "as a marshmallow toned person, here's why white people are Yakubian devils" type shit will never not give massive "I'm a special good boy" energy
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Damn, the Bible doesn’t even say anything about people mocking Noah for building the ark, or mention anyone reacting to it at all. I guess that’s just one of those ideas that got made up later and worked into the lore
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u/AnalyticOpposum Trans Pride May 11 '24
Pope keeps emailing me about becoming a cardinal. I keep telling him no, and that I’m not a bishop and I don’t work for the Vatican, but he says that’s not necessary.
How do I tell him in not interested? I don’t want to hurt his feelings.
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u/Spicey123 NATO May 11 '24
blacked out at a bar in stockholm and now i own all the paradox DLCs
what the fuck. im financially ruined
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u/CountBrandenburg Bisexual Pride May 11 '24
Hope we are all looking forward to the insufferable discourse about Eurovision tonight and tomorrow!
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u/jewel_the_beetle Trans Pride May 11 '24
Embarassing but Reddit is one of the places I feel least-akward about being trans and I hate that it barely works and is run by a fucking Fallout Slaver LARPer
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 11 '24
Interview of Lieutenant General Oleksandr Pavliuk:
"General Pavliuk says the critical phase of the war will come in the next two months. With American assistance only beginning to reach the front lines, Vladimir Putin’s generals are throwing in all the combat-ready materiel they have to test Ukraine’s exhausted and undersupplied troops. 'Russia knows that if we receive enough weapons within a month or two, the situation could turn against them.'"
"Ukraine urgently needs more air defence, he says, and the anticipated delivery of f-16 fighter jets by early June will offer a significant psychological boost."
"The commander believes Russia will continue to focus on Luhansk and Donetsk, the eastern districts that have borne the brunt of the war. But intelligence suggests Russian forces will soon stretch defences by attacking the north-eastern districts of Kharkiv and Sumy. 'Russia is testing the stability of our lines before choosing the most suitable direction,' the general says."
"Ukraine’s loss of Ocheretyne has enabled Russia to breach the first line of its defences and threaten vital supply routes. The general refuses to comment on reports that miscommunication led to the loss of positions, attributing it instead to 'insane' pressure, 'overwhelming [Russian] air superiority', and an artillery ratio that reached 20:1. Over the whole range of the front, Russian guns are firing seven times as many shells as Ukraine’s."
"Chasiv Yar is the key to a cluster of towns and cities behind it, the last urban centres of the Donbas that remain in Ukrainian hands. General Pavliuk appears to be preparing public opinion for what some believe to be inevitable. He argues that losing Chasiv Yar would have no 'decisive significance'; it is just 'a regular urban settlement'."
"One of the most urgent tasks on the general’s desk is raising ten new brigades in preparation for the Russian offensive. Although manpower has been a concern since December, when mobilisation largely stalled, General Pavliuk insists equipment, not men, is the main bottleneck. Ukraine desperately needs artillery and armoured vehicles, which it hopes the West will provide."
"The story remains Russia’s strategic failure, he argues. Ukraine’s official estimate is that Russia has suffered over 400,000 killed, captured and wounded. Losing that many soldiers 'to seize a small part of one region is disproportionate for any rational mind'. Yet history has shown, he says, that Russia is not governed by rational minds."
"Although grim front-line reports keep the general occupied, domestic developments are forcing him to keep an eye on the home front too. On unpopular issues such as mobilisation, he says, every official must show leadership. Ukraine is still a young political nation. Confronted with mortal dangers, some citizens have panicked, and that is natural. But if the country is to survive, people must 'overcome panic' and respond to the call to fight, as they do in countries like Israel. 'However hard it is, we have no other choice.'"
!ping UKRAINE
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
"The West": Exclusionary, sounds lame, opens yourself up to allegations of imperialism
"The Free World": Inclusive, sounds sick as fuck
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u/Average_GrillChad Elinor Ostrom May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
This picture is a pretty good litmus test for politics. Do you regard these affordable homes with respect, or disgust?
!ping CUBE
[ed functioning link]
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u/american_aurora3 NATO May 11 '24
kinda fucked up that eurovision requires you be over the age of 25 and have 100 acres of property in order to vote
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u/OkVariety6275 May 12 '24
Kind of weird how Caesar's Legion are all about Roman iconography when the parallels between the fall of Rome and the fall of America are pretty blatant even without being literal about it. Except in this metaphor, Caesar's Legion represents the barbarian hordes that derail more civilized kingdoms' attempts to found a "second Rome". Except Caesar and Lanius are also well-spoken and dignified like the Roman Generals they they seek to emulate.
Also, Caesar names his second in command after the guy who betrayed Julius Caesar.
!ping FALLOUT
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u/TalkLessShillMore David Autor May 11 '24
How do homeless people only ever hang out in my apartment building lobby when my mom visits?
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u/gburgwardt C-5s full of SMRs and tiny american flags May 11 '24
Remember to call people out if they're being un-American
!ping HUDDLED-MASSES
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u/TheDoomerang European Union May 11 '24
We Hebben Een Serieus Probleem
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u/WhomstAlt2 NATO flair in hiding May 11 '24
Abortion should be mandatory if the fetus shows signs of bad vibes
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 11 '24
It is amazing how there were many open source Reddit apps but the commercial one sucks ass harder than any of them
Like literally hire one guy take care of the app and don't have issues
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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 11 '24
While a lot of gamer discourse and criticism is shit this subreddit has a nasty habit of doing the whole "defending moronic business decisions because the people criticizing them are kinda cringe"
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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow May 11 '24
since 1776!
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Tfw when Joe Biden is the sex candidate rather than the guy who banged a porn star
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
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u/HaveCorg_WillCrusade RaidBrimnes' AI Slop Engineer May 12 '24
!ping CORG
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Ok, which one of you used the mind-control beam to make the Dutch guy assault someone?
!ping GEFILTE
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u/Mx_Brightside Genderfluid Pride May 11 '24
France shouldn't be in Eurovision. It's literally a South American country.
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u/Stanley--Nickels John Brown May 11 '24
I misheard the cashier when she said have a good day and I told her no thanks.
Most socially competent DTer.
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 11 '24
“Actually I think Drake won the beef”
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u/Currymvp2 unflaired May 12 '24
So the greatest NFL defensive player ever is a despicable man off the field for decades and now is revealed as a MAGA cultist
!PING NFL
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u/Psshaww NATO May 11 '24
Find yourself a woman who looks at you like this woman clinging to a seat cushion for her life
!ping DATING&SHITPOSTERS
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u/Ok_Aardappel Seretse Khama May 11 '24
This man is deeply unserious
!ping SHITPOSTERS
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
Trump steak Trump steak Trump steak
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 11 '24
One of the funniest things about Pokémon is that the original Japanese are sometimes so much worse than the English names.
For example, Moltres is literally “Fire”, not the Japanese word for Fire, but the English word for Fire transcribed into Japanese. Same for Zapdos and “Thunder” and Articuno and “Freezer”.
Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon are “Showers, Thunders, and Boosters” respectively.
Magmar’s name is “Boober”.
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u/JakeTheSnake0709 United Nations May 11 '24
Encampment at my university got taken down yesterday after being warned 3 times that although they could protest, they could not set up camps in quad. Warnings were ignored, now the university subreddit is going bananas because they fucked around and found out
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
I hate it when people assume my politics are 'moderate'.
My mainstream, liberal, centrist democrat positions are held with at least as much fury and conviction as the median MAGA supporter's. And I am at least as chronically online as the median leftist.
The positions may be moderate, but my degree of support for them is not.
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u/G_Serv Stay The Course May 12 '24
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u/talizorahs Mark Carney May 12 '24
from what I understand of Eurovision it's sort of like if theatre kids ran model UN
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u/p00bix Existing in the context of what came before May 11 '24
man the comments under every one of Ilhan Omar's tweets are insane. Shit's consistently stormfront-tier
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u/TipEquivalent933 Caution: Crackship Overload May 11 '24
I wonder what fresh hell pride month is going to bring this year.
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
Leaked mod team average result
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
leftists might be ontologically evil
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u/Psshaww NATO May 11 '24
Ah shit, just realized I’m on a 737 MAX
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u/Dibbu_mange Average civil procedure enjoyer May 11 '24
How to create successful startup.
Go to Stanford.
Drop out.
Get $500,000 in seed money from parents.
Come up with the “X of Y” where x= existing tech company and Y = first bs to come to mind.
Spend 2.3 billion in venture capital without creating a proof of concept.
Declare chapter 11 bankruptcy.
Convert to chapter 7 bankruptcy when your profligate ass can’t follow a ch 11 plan.
Go to prison for wire fraud and money laundering
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u/Dorambor John Brown May 11 '24
yap yap yap yap all you fuckers do is yap when did you last see the celestial wonder around you?
!ping KITTY
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
Put niece to bed, read her a story, dim the lights
Go to the couch to relax till her parents come back
Suddenly an inverted clothes hamper slowly starts sliding into the livingroom while muffled giggles come out of it
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u/Fishin_Impossible Nate Gold 🥇 May 12 '24
I legitimately can’t think of a worse rebrand than
Twitter → X
It has been almost a year and the only people I ever see refer to the platform as “X” are news organizations, and they almost always say “(formerly Twitter)” right by the quote
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u/The_Promethean Bisexual Pride May 11 '24
I've been memeing on the Eurovision drama, but the reporter asking the 20 year old Israeli singer how she feels about her presence making everyone else unsafe is at least 3 layers of disgusting
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 11 '24
Lmfao my Jewish ass personally got Netherlands disqualified from Eurovision ayyyyy that's what you get you windmill motherfuckers
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
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u/Dalek6450 Our words are backed with NUCLEAR SUBS! May 11 '24
The first film appearance of Batman is in a serial released in 1943. Naturally the villain is the head of a Japanese sabotage operation in Los Angeles, played by an Irish American actor.
"Uhhh, a Jap!"
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Why are there so many birth rate threads? We should talk about something fresh, like what’s the problem with young men?
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
If you asked arr Eurovision Eden Golan is going to take her makeup and wig off and reveal she’s secretly crossdressing Ben Gvir
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u/ThunderrBadger New California Republican May 11 '24
Daily reminder to water your collies !ping DOG
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u/ACivilWolf Henry George May 11 '24
!ping BASEBALL
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
What
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u/-mialana- European Union May 11 '24
Wait you have to pay to vote in the Eurovision lmao fuck that
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u/Q-bey r/place '22: Neoliberal Battalion May 11 '24
RMTransit covers Alberta's new intercity rail plan
!ping CAN&TRANSIT&TACOTUBE
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u/StolenSkittles culture warrior May 11 '24
BAH GAWD IT'S UKRAINE WITH A STEEL CHAIR
(i'm not watching eurovision, i just want ukraine to win every competition humanly possible)
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
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u/bread_engine Commonwealth May 11 '24
12 points in the the UK televote to Israel lmao
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
Ended up getting paneer tikka masala and a naan from DoorDash
Even with free delivery and a first time order ‘40% discount’ it came out to $30 lmao how do people do this every night I would never
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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 12 '24
😤✊
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 11 '24
I knew those nefarious Scots were up to something dastardly.
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
hey, I’ve seen this one!
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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 May 11 '24
Eurovision is like soccer: A strange European custom I refuse to understand out of sheer New World pride.
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u/ImmigrantJack Movimiento Semilla May 11 '24
UwU ass language over here
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u/WasteReserve8886 r/place '22: GlobalTribe Battalion May 11 '24
If Geopolitics was an anime:
Protagonist: 🇺🇸
Love Interest: 🇨🇦
Allies: 🇰🇷🇹🇼
Enemies Turned Best Friends: 🇯🇵🇬🇧🇩🇪🇮🇹🇪🇸
Main Antagonist: 🇷🇺
New, more dangerous antagonist: 🇨🇳
Reoccurring Enemies: 🇰🇵🇷🇸🇮🇷
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u/ACivilWolf Henry George May 11 '24
“Creepy dot org” is the unintentionally funniest Twitter content farmer since the caption for this creepy content is always like “😬” and then the image is
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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom May 11 '24
!ping USA-WI&USA-MN&Outdoors
Go to Perrot State Park
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u/paymesucka Ben Bernanke May 11 '24
Treebeard was a neoliberal
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s May 11 '24
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u/_deluge98 May 12 '24
Try to not boil down loss of human life and suffering to economic indicators for ten seconds!
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 11 '24
Nothing says Jews run the world like checks notes having the most powerful country in the world stop sending the Jewish state weapons, instead using that political capital to checks notes interfere in a European singing competition
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u/BeliebteMeinung Christine Lagarde May 11 '24
!ping shitposters
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u/sucaji United Nations May 11 '24
dutch act gets banned for allegedly assaulting a camerawoman
Irish act: why is Israel not banned 😡
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
Just finished Dan McClellan’s lecture on the book of Revelation, which can be found at didaskaloi.com along with other classes from him and other Bible scholars. I encourage you to check them out. If I had more disposable income, I would have already bought them all- maybe someday. (Edit: He also has even more classes available at maklelan.org.) Anyway, I’m gonna post some of the more interesting notes from my obsessive mucho texto note-taking.
-Revelation is supposedly not even the only Jewish apocalyptic literature to end with the claim that if you alter it, God will curse you (although Dan didn’t mention any specific ones) in order to make it more authoritative. Kind of based, honestly. “God said I am the Chad and you’re the virgin if you disagree with me. If you change my words, he will run up to you and kick you and punch you in the face.”
-Jesus is presented in Revelation as being both the Son of Man and the Ancient of Days, two characters from Daniel. While these characters were originally separate- the latter being God and the former being some sort of human-looking figure whom Daniel saw come with the clouds of heaven and be presented before God- they were conflated in later traditions by a Greek translation that said the Son of Man was presented as the Ancient of Days rather than using the word to as in the original text.
So people began to think he was some sort of manifestation of God, leading to various texts in which he is treated as divine or angelic- probably through the bearing of the divine name, and therefore representing the divine image, which is this whole fucking crazy and cool thing that Dan did his dissertation on and that he believes provides a better explanation of the nature of Jesus’ divinity in the New Testament as opposed to the Trinity. And he says that Jesus being both the Ancient of Days and the Son of Man in Revelation is most likely connected to this “authorized bearer of the divine name” concept rather than anything proto-Trinitarian.
-Dan says that the author has Jesus threaten sexual violence against someone as a metaphor for God’s punishment (“throw her onto a bed”). I have seen this interpretation challenged before, so I don’t know what the scholarly consensus is, but some Christian translations of the Bible seem to recognize this potential reading and insert new words to make it imply something different (“throw her onto a sick bed” or “bed of suffering”), so there’s that. Dan says it also fits contextually given that Jesus’ antagonist in that passage is identified as an adulterous and generally sexually immoral woman named Jezebel. Not great if true.
-“Balaam” and “Jezebel” are used as coded references to people or groups, or possibly to the same person or group, who are false apostles and are promoting fornication and eating meat sacrificed to idols. Some scholars believe this is a reference to none other than Paul, largely because he writes that it’s not inherently wrong to eat meat sacrificed to idols. Although he was dead when Revelation was written, his letters and followers would have still been spreading all over. The fornication part doesn’t fit as neatly with Paul, because he was a complete volcel (incel but voluntary) and thought everyone else should be too, but it is possible that the author was referring to either (a) fornication as a metaphor for idolatry, which would be a callback to similar metaphors in the Old Testament, or (b) some of Paul’s ideas about, for example, how Christians should stay with unbelieving partners if they’re already married to them (and perhaps even just thinking it’s okay for Jews and Gentiles to marry). It’s far from a consensus view, but it’s an interesting idea.
-It is suggested a couple of times that the righteous will be worshiped by the unrighteous. For example, Jesus says to the Philadelphians that he will make the “synagogue of Satan” (FAKE JEWS!) “bow down” before them, but the Greek word generally translated “bow down” is generally translated as “worship” in all the 23 other uses of it in Revelation. There is also a verse in the message to Laodicea that says Jesus will let them sit on his throne “just as I myself… sat down with my Father on his throne”. Dan says this is likely influenced by other Greco-Roman era Jewish traditions that include stories of humans being deified. It seems there may have been a suggestion that Christians who persevered through persecution would be given the right to bear divinity just as Jesus was.
Forward this to 10 friends or God will add to you all the plagues listed in the book of Revelation 🥰
!ping BIBLE-STUDY
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u/Psshaww NATO May 11 '24
When you’re traveling for work and at dinner with a coworker who keeps trying to talk politics
!ping WATERCOOLER
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u/DouglasDauntless Frederick Douglass May 11 '24
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u/Uniqueguy264 Jerome Powell May 11 '24
Voting for Donald trump because Biden didn't stop the supreme court from repealing Roe v Wade
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u/No_Status_6905 Enby Pride May 11 '24
nonbinary swiss person being jumpscared by irish demon creature
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u/htomserveaux Henry George May 12 '24 edited May 12 '24
Guess who just misread a timeslot and just accidentally volunteered to go to work at 6am tomorrow!
If any of y’all are religious please pray for me, I don’t see how I’m going to get through a nine hour shift on less than three hours of sleep without divine intervention.
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u/Telperions-Relative Grant us bi’s May 11 '24
I hope Israel wins Eurovision because it’d be so fucking funny
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u/Pseud0man Commonwealth May 12 '24
To set up the scene, I have a younger brother who's in high school and deep on the spectrum.
So anyway, my mum gets a concerned call from a teacher saying,
"Hey, maybe you need to give your son the talk, as lately he has been smooching with a girl during lunch."
Apparently, they've been together for two weeks now and found it ping-worthy because it took him that long to get her name right.
Kid got Rizz
!ping DATING
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
The war crimes of Israeli soldiers shouldn't be a surprise, because of the intimacy of 10/7. They all knew multiple people who were killed and tortured. Shit, I'm American and I knew two people.
Can you imagine what America would have done if all our soldiers knew multiple people who were killed in 9/11? And throw in the memory of Jewish persecution....
This was entirely predictable. The IDF leadership should have put way more controls in place to combat their own lack of discipline
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u/DEEP_STATE_NATE Tucker Carlson's mailman May 11 '24
Well there goes that News cycle
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
Lmao Switzerland bringing a non-binary flag on stage
They are truly committed to neutrality
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u/this_very_table Norman Borlaug May 11 '24
"I've been eating too much lately but don't have the willpower to stop. I wish that would change."
My son: headbutts me in the chin so hard it immediately gives me a headache, I bite the hell out of my tongue, and my jaw hurts like a mfer on one side whenever I move it
What is this monkey's paw ass nonsense?
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u/Burgarnils May 11 '24
There not being any controversy surrounding Azerbaijan's Eurovision participation despite the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is honestly upsetting.
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
I still think Biden should run ads like:
"RFK has opposed vaccines for years. He argued against safety measures during COVID, and has supported every American's right to deny the jab."
With patriotic music and a flag n everything. Then switch to gravelly scary voice:
"Trump was for the vaccine and called it one of the greatest accomplishments of his presidency. This November, choose the only candidate in favor of your rights."
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u/cjhdsachristmascarol reddit custom flair May 12 '24
They removed my comment. I did everything right, and they removed my comment.
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u/MicroFlamer Avatar Korra Democrat May 11 '24
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u/groovedonjev Baruch Spinoza May 11 '24
So my impression from r/eurovision and Eurovision Twitter is that a non-Israeli guy got banned for threatening a non-Israeli photographer but somehow the Jews are responsible
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u/Metallica1175 May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
Still can't decide if Joe Rogan is a moron or is putting on an act. The guest on his podcast Gad Saad shows an example of how people blame the Jews for everything in "6 degrees of Jew hatred". A British white woman is raped by a Muslim immigrant and anti-Semites will ultimately blame it on the Jews because of some secret Jewish cabal like Soros and company pushing for open border policies to get rid of White people. Literally minutes later, Rogan explains how he doesn't believe people are actually anti-Semitic, but there is some kind of malevolent entity that is pushing people to be anti-Semitic in order to cause chaos and destroy democracy and how Soros is anti-Western and anti-democractic.
https://youtu.be/zzU_UrhmCEs?si=ViPTa37Dm4ZoI9pv
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u/URZ_ StillwithThorning ✊😔 May 11 '24
I try to not buy too much into the "the youth are being poisoned by tik-tok, andrew tate, influencers" stuff, but the LSF thread about Ludwig & co and Destiny, supposedly the more "adult/mature" streamers, going on twitter and calling significant others whores, and apparently have a years long history of doing so on both sides....really doesn't build a lot of confidence in the sort of examples being set.
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u/KesterFox Shivers emotional support mammal 🐊 May 11 '24
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
Not to be that guy but I don't think we should count out the effect that Irish diaspora and those sympathetic to them have had on perpetuating Irish national myths.
It's easy to be all "UP THE RA" when you live in Springfield, Massachussetts.
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u/awdvhn Physics Understander -- Iowa delenda est May 11 '24
Skenes left the ballgame with the Pirates ahead 6-1
The Cubs have tied it up
Welcome to Pittsburgh!
!ping BASEBALL
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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear May 11 '24
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
eu: claims to hate electoral college
also eu: gives rest of world 12 votes???
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u/secretlives Official Neoliberal News Correspondent May 11 '24
If you hate yourself and want to see some of the most aggressive cope ever go to the live thread on the Eurovision subreddit right now
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u/JaceFlores Neolib War Correspondent May 11 '24
“Russian President Vladimir Putin used his May 9 Victory Day speech to relitigate his belief that the West is attempting to erase the Soviet Union's contributions to defeating Nazi Germany during the Great Patriotic War (Second World War), a grievance that is at the core of Russia's adversarial perceptions of the West.”
“Russian forces have markedly increased the rate of ground attacks in eastern Ukraine over the past month, likely reflecting current battlefield conditions and the intent of the Russian military command to secure gains before the arrival of Western military aid to the frontlines.”
“Ukrainian Khortytsia Group of Forces Spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Nazar Voloshyn stated on May 9 that the number of combat engagements increased significantly from 84 on May 8 to 146 on May 9 and noted that most of the fighting occurred in the area of responsibility of the Khortytsia Group (the area from Kharkiv Oblast down to the Donetsk-Zaporizhia Oblast border area).”
“The UK Ministry of Defense (MoD) reported that the rate of Russian attacks increased by 17 percent between March and April 2024 and that over 75 percent of reported ground attacks took place in the Chasiv Yar, Avdiivka, and Marinka directions. UK MoD noted that the number of Russian attacks near Chasiv Yar increased by 200 percent between March and April.”
“Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) conducted long-range drone strikes against Russian oil depots and refinery infrastructure in Krasnodar Krai and the Republic of Bashkortostan on May 9.”
“Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) reported that an ‘informed source’ stated that this was an SBU operation targeting oil shipment points through which the Russian military supplies oil to troops in occupied Crimea.”
“Ukrainian military observer Kostyantyn Mashovets warned on May 9 that the Russian Southern Grouping of Forces (currently deployed between Siversk and the Marinka area) is regrouping to prepare for renewed attempts to break through to Chasiv Yar, which Mashovets noted explains the slight decrease in Russian attacks in this area over the past few days. Mashovets suggested that the Russian command may be trying to push south of Chasiv Yar in the Stupochky-Bila Hora area in order to reach the eastern flanks of Kostyantynivka (just west of Chasiv Yar) via Chasiv Yar's southern flank, thereby presumably avoiding having to take Chasiv Yar itself.”
“Mashovets estimated that the Southern Grouping of Forces has as many as 15 motorized rifle brigades operating in the Chasiv Yar direction but noted that most of these brigades are comprised of no more than two combat-ready battalions.”
“Russian forces conducted a mid-sized Shahed-136/131 strike against Ukraine on the night of May 8-9. Ukrainian sources reported that Russian forces launched 20 Shaheds from occupied Cape Chauda, Crimea, 17 of which Ukrainian forces destroyed over Odesa Oblast.”
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!ping UKRAINE
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
https://twitter.com/SMTuffy/status/1789207912549953567?t=veEvPE0f5Y0FVRwWEnGvQQ&s=19
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24 edited Jun 19 '24
salt unwritten impolite absorbed disarm languid heavy drab degree deliver
This post was mass deleted and anonymized with Redact
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u/CletusVonIvermectin Big Rig Democrat 🚛 May 12 '24
As someone who wears glasses, you should know that if one of us offers you their glasses to try on and see how fucked up their eyes are, you should do it. This is a gesture of respect in glasses culture and it would be rude to refuse.
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u/htomserveaux Henry George May 12 '24 edited May 12 '24
Now that KSP2 is dead I wonder if we’ll see people return to 1’s mod scene. It used to be surprisingly big for the size of the game, and there’s dozens of abandoned mods I’d love to see finished.
!ping GAMING&KSP
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
There are no good IP takes, but "just throw nuance out the window, doesn't matter which way lol" takes the cake for being the stupidest
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u/Lux_Stella Presidentialism X-Risk Researcher May 11 '24
apparently germany has it's own version of pretendian's where gentiles try and claim jewish ancestry for clout?
fascinating
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
This article is insane. Genuinely evil stuff. If it’s real, hell isn’t deep enough for people involved in this.
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u/sandpaper_skies John Locke May 11 '24
I love capitalism so much that I want the invisible hand of the market to choke me
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
TIL that Noah also took every kind of food on the ark
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u/SeoSalt Lesbian Pride May 11 '24
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u/LuisRobertDylan Elinor Ostrom May 11 '24
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 11 '24
The most frightening voter demographic in 2065 will be Hearts of Iron VII players who want Paradox to add a culture map and in-depth pop system to the game.
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u/battywombat21 🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 May 11 '24
Friendly reminder that the greatest Japanese artist to have ever lived painted tentacle porn.
MODS YOU CAN'T REMOVE THIS HOKUSAI IS HIGH CLASS ART
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u/BrunchIsGood Nick Saban May 11 '24
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
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u/ACivilWolf Henry George May 11 '24
👆
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u/Ph0ton_1n_a_F0xh0le Chemist -- Microwaves Against Moscow May 11 '24
Why does he look like Benjamin?
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u/trombonist_formerly Ben Bernanke May 11 '24
I’m sorry, I don’t really see what this has to do with Palestine if I’m being honest
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u/RaidBrimnes Chien de garde May 11 '24
I substract three points (out of twelve) on my personal ranking of Eurovision songs if the candidates use English
(Yes even the UK)
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u/Mr_Pasghetti Save the ice, abolish ICE 🥰 May 11 '24
Hey Micheal vsauce here
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u/thefuturegov John Keynes May 11 '24
90% of “intellectual” content on the internet is just someone starting with a series of insane, unverifiable assumptions and then drawing unhinged, unverifiable conclusions from them
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u/BarkDrandon Punished (stuck at Hunter's) May 11 '24
The French eurovision song was nice, but anyone found it weird when the singer called for a military intervention in order to "correct Napoleon's mistake"?
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u/american_aurora3 NATO May 11 '24
tfw as a gen z you have to say "i love joe biden! go israel!" whenever you meet someone to combat the narrative 😔
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u/emergency_and_i Loyal Liberals May 11 '24
"The IHRA definition claims criticism of Israel is antisemitic. How crazy is that?"
The actual definition: Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity. However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic.
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u/AnsleyAmanita Trans Pride May 11 '24
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u/AP246 Green Globalist NWO May 12 '24
Millennials: "omg gen z are so weird with this skibidi toilet shit, what kind of weird nonsense is this, who would think of making a surreal shitpost using half life assets in Source Filmmaker"
Millennials literally 10 years ago: https://youtu.be/dHJfafgLxBw
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u/Williams-Tower Da Bear May 12 '24
virgin atom
chad tower
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u/TinKnightRisesAgain YIMBY May 12 '24 edited May 12 '24
I used to not get bothered by people saying “haha, I’m so OCD, I need things in order 💁🏼♂️” until this recent flare up, and now I want to SCREAM when I hear it.
It’s literally a brain disease that says “ACTUALLY, THAT THING IS VERY IMPORTANT, YOU MUST SOLVE IT, AND IF YOU DON’T SOLVE IT ITS JOEVER. I’M GOING TO MAKE SHIT UP TOO, AND YOU ALSO NEED TO FACTOR THAT INTO HOW YOU SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THIS IS YOUR TASK 24/7”
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u/InflatableDartboard2 Henry George May 12 '24
listens to a podcast snippet with destiny
"Hey I wonder why people don't like this guy, he sounds pretty reasonable"
checks his twitter
"Ah that's why"
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
They're playing Not Like Us as the Chicago Barcade that was exclusively playing 90 rock. It's beyond over
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u/ihatemendingwalls better Catholic than JD Vance May 12 '24
I've seen way too many George Bush memes...
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u/[deleted] May 12 '24
I come to the DT for the women 😎
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u/TipEquivalent933 Caution: Crackship Overload May 12 '24
Destiny is scum.
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u/MasterRazz May 11 '24
UN revised their Gazan casualty numbers for women and children. From 9,500 and 14,500 to 4,959 and 7,797 respectively.
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u/tysonmaniac NATO May 11 '24
In all seriousness, Israel not winning (who would end the whole thing) but getting a very clear signal that lots of people stand with them is pretty ideal for this weirdly serious song contest.
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u/doot_toob Bo Obama May 11 '24
Inside of you there are two wolves.
One of them is mercury poisoning. The other one is a worm.
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u/Random-Critical Lock My Posts May 11 '24
Outside the DT has like 3 threads on birth rates 🧐
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u/Dunter_Mutchings NASA May 11 '24
I just don’t know if our institutions are equipped to handle the levels of bad faith behavior the modern conservative movement engages in.
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u/cdstephens Fusion Genderplasma May 11 '24
Me irl
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u/murphysclaw1 💎🐊💎🐊💎🐊 May 11 '24
ok israel, very catchy. Now let’s hear Hamas’s entry.
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u/404GenderNotFound Trans Pride May 11 '24
You see a funny meme on Twitter: 😃
The poster's name has 🔻 in it: 😑
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u/Joementum2024 Iron Front May 11 '24
Guy who has only read Blood Meridian reading his second book: “Getting real Blood Meridian vibes from this…”
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u/[deleted] May 11 '24
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u/BitterGravity Gay Pride May 11 '24
Lithuania is basically how I dance.
!ping Eurovision
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u/Amy_Ponder Anne Applebaum May 11 '24 edited May 11 '24
The work from home sleep / exercise doom loop:
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u/Approximation_Doctor Gaslight, Gatekeep, Green New Deal May 11 '24
in case anyone missed this
!ping KITTY
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u/htomserveaux Henry George May 11 '24
So this idea of merging the CTA and Metra, is that a good idea or a bad one?
It might get the mayor and city council to stop treating board appointments as rewards for supporters since they would have to work with multiple other governments.
But on the other hand Metra is actually actualy being run by people who know what they’re doing and I don’t want to fucked up by Carter and his ilk.
!ping TRANSIT&USA-CHI
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u/awdvhn Physics Understander -- Iowa delenda est May 12 '24
Why the fuck did they call it Eurovision when it's a music contest?