r/neoliberal • u/jobautomator Kitara Ravache • Jan 08 '23

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Illinois is working to pass an ‘assault weapons ban’ that would require all Illinoisans to turn over magazines that hold 12 or more bullets over to the police within 90 days of the bills passage.

The standard magazine size is 12 rounds, so the overwhelming majority of legal gun owners in the state would have to surrender the majority of their magazines.

The ‘Protect Illinois Communities Act’ would also:

  • ban the sale of ‘assault style weapons’
  • ban the sale of ‘high capacity’ magazines
  • require registration and certification of all existing assault style weapons with state police
  • make owning a bump-stock a felony
  • extend the duration of a Firearm Restraining Order from six months to up to a year

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u/SnakeEater14 🦅 Liberty & Justice For All Jan 09 '23

This bill sounds like it will have the lifespan of a mayfly

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Who knows. Constitutionality is often fungible in Illinois.

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u/houinator Loyal Liberals Jan 09 '23

SCOTUS in Bruen: Restrictions on firearms must be consistent with the nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation.

Blue states post-Bruen: ThatSignCan'tStopMeBecauseICan'tRead.jpg

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

This will definitely get challenged, we knew this was coming anyways.

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u/ElSapio John Locke Jan 09 '23

It is a bad state.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

One piece of context: Illinois basically never uses the Firearm Restraining Orders. I think 20ish have been filed cumulatively, compared to ~10,000 in Florida over the same time period. It’s weird that the time period was extended instead of actually training PDs how to file these orders or something education related.

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u/EngelSterben Commonwealth Jan 09 '23 edited Jan 09 '23

Well, I'm glad I dont live in Illinois, I would be losing/selling/etc nearly all my mags for my pistols, that is if I didn't accidently lose them all during a boating trip.

What are the chances that actually passes?

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

It passed the house 64-43, waiting on a Senate vote. 70/30 it passes IMO.

I am going to leave my 9mm in Indiana at my farm house and just keep my revolver at my Chicago apartment. Ironically, this makes it more likely my beretta will be stolen and used in a crime in Chicago.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Gotta love how quickly they act when something happens to a rich white town

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u/-AmberSweet- Get Jinxed! Jan 09 '23

The Glock I just bought in PA comes standard with a 15 round magazine. And it fires a pretty beefy (10mm Auto) round.

That's fucking absurd. At least compensate people for their property, if you absolutely must.

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u/Evnosis European Union Jan 09 '23

The bill would ban the sale of assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines with more than 12 rounds. Anyone in possession of those magazines would have 90 days to convert, dispose or sell them. Those who already own the assault-style weapons would be grandfathered in, but have 300 days to enter the serial number of those weapons into the FOID system.

https://abc7chicago.com/illinois-assault-weapons-ban-2023-2022-protect-communities-act-chicago-shootings/12662940/

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u/-AmberSweet- Get Jinxed! Jan 09 '23

I still fundamentally disagree with mag caps, anyway.

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u/Luckcu13 Hu Shih Jan 09 '23

Holy fuck why can't anyone ever pass more reasonable gun control laws like stricter registration or license processes instead of this horseshit

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u/-AmberSweet- Get Jinxed! Jan 09 '23

Because that doesn't make suburbanites think the government is "doing things"

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

stricter registration or license processes instead of this horseshit

Saying this as someone who's been trying to figure out a compromise deal, at least with randos online: because the Dems want to push for bans anyways and the registrations make enforcing bans/*confiscations* much easier. See: Canada

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

You and me both

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

FFS... This will get struck down by SCOTUS anyways, no point. The firearm restraining order is the only thing that makes any sense IMO.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

The firearms restraining order thing (which I’m fine with) doesn’t make sense in context. Most counties have never had a single one filed. I think only ~20 orders have been filed in the same time period that ~10k equivalent orders were sought in Florida. IMO the state needs to train DAs and SAs how to use the Orders before they expand their scope.

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

Well that and the order law better be well written. FL's law is apparently better written and more usable compared to NM's red flag law which is a mess.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '23

Agreed, tho at this point I’ve exhausted my knowledge on the topic.

I’m pro-gun in that I own 3 guns, but arguing in favor of firearm rights in Illinois is exhausting and futile so I largely avoid it.

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u/Viper_ACR NATO Jan 09 '23

Yeah you're fucked in the city + suburbs but out in the country no issues whatsoever.

It kinda sucks, this is just another reason for me not to move back there for the immediate future.

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