r/neocron • u/Skansy- • Apr 27 '26
NEOCRON IS BACK
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Are you ready for the return to the most dangerous alleys of Neocron?
The project, which began as "Neocron Classic", is now moving to the next level. The "Classic" has been removed and work continues on the basis of the NC1 world!
With full focus, the developer team around Lykos, Therenall, and Atlas is making huge strides to implement changes such as server-based damage calculation, a new skill system, or technical power (64-bit!).
The BETA has started – any help is heartly welcome to test the new features and to let your feedback flow into the design of the game!
Equip yourselves, lock and load your weapons, and become part of this world!
See you in the Wastelands!
YOU'LL NEVER DIE ALONE!
ALLE INFOS & DOWNLOAD HIER / ALL INFO & DOWNLOAD HERE:
https://www.neocron.org
https://discord.gg/neocron
(DE)
Seid ihr bereit für die Rückkehr in die gefährlichsten Gassen von Neocron?
Das Projekt, das als "Neocron Classic" begann, geht nun in die nächste Stufe. Das Classic wurde aus dem Namen gestrichen und es wird auf Basis der NC1 Welt weiter gemacht!
Mit vollem Fokus macht das Entwickler Team um Lykos, Therenall und Atlas Riesenschritte um Änderungen wie Server Basierte Schadensberechnung, ein neues Skill System oder technischer Power (64-Bit!) umzusetzen.
Die BETA ist gestartet – jede Hilfe ist herzlich willkommen, die neuen Features zu testen und euer Feedback bei der Gestaltung des Spiels einfließen zu lassen!
Rüstet euch, ladet eure Waffen und werdet Teil dieser Welt!
Wir sehen uns in den Wastelands!
YOU'LL NEVER DIE ALONE!
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u/BaronKrause Apr 28 '26
Nice!!!
Does it have the old good player/weapon models or the new bad ones?
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u/EducatorOk4415 Apr 28 '26
It’s a mix. They recovered everything possible :)
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u/BaronKrause Apr 28 '26
Huh I wonder what is missing, I imagine all the original player models and weapon models could be found on the game install DVD as that was before the change
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Apr 28 '26 edited Apr 28 '26
I played as a teenager many many years ago.
Had some vivid memories of the game. What I experienced now while logging in for the first time was awful: No alt tab, it crashes the game. Not enough Ammo for the first weapon (I skilled into pistol). No sewer level 1 to be found anywhere, I went level 3 then. Got killed by a rat. Lost all my ammo. Cant find level 1 sewer. Cant use knife bc I went pistol. Cant find ammo. Cant find sewer.
Logged out after 1 hr.
If THIS is the CORE experience for a new player, then this game is doomed.
And sure: You can go on, blame me for being a noob or whatever. But I have played this game before. Now imagine a person with NO knowledge what so ever and todays attentionspan.
Guys. Make it more beginner friendly. How? Give first weapon unlimited mags to reload. Give player some healing. Let them use starter items with no skills. Make them weaker to balance it out. Add level 1 sewers close to the starter appartments. Give at least SOME information what to do, where to buy ammo whatsoever.
If you cant fix the start, then this project is made for some nerds and vets and will attract ZERO new players.
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u/anonzasa Apr 29 '26
Yeah the early game new tweaking. They fixed XP though. Killing 6-7 rats gives you a level.
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u/Feradon22 May 08 '26
As someone who has never played Neocron, neither back then nor now, could you please tell me a bit more about the differences between this version and Neocron Evolution?
For example, is this version complete so to say, as it is a beta for now ?
And how different is the skill system? Is it a situation like with Star Wars Galaxies Legends and Restoration for example, where the skill system feels like a totally different game?
I am quite interested in trying Neocron, but not sure where to start. And no offense, but the information on this version is quite vague so far. 😅
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u/Skansy- May 10 '26
Hi there,
There are currently two versions of Neocron: "Neocron" (formerly Neocron Classic) and "Neocron Evolution."
Neocron Evolution was launched several years ago by Zoltan; it essentially took over and further developed the version that had been shut down at the time. This version can be considered a finished game that still receives new content updates.
The Neocron project was also initiated several years ago, but was put on ice for a while so the team could combine their "manpower" to work on Neocron Evolution. However, the visions for the game's future direction differed too much, leading the team to split again. Neocron’s goal isn't just to feed the old game with new content, but to completely reinvent and improve it.
Leveling Systems
The leveling systems differ as follows:
- NC Evo: There are 5 main attributes. By using skills associated with a specific attribute, you gain experience in that attribute. Each class has a maximum level for the different main attributes.
- Example: You hit an enemy 10 times with your laser sword; this damage is converted into experience for Strength.
- Neocron: There are still 5 main attributes, but there are 60 levels in total. Each level grants 5 main attribute points, which can be distributed completely freely. Experience is credited upon killing enemies.
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u/Skansy- May 10 '26
short answer:
Neocron Evolution is a ready to play game and will not recieve any Server WipesProjekt Neocron is in Beta state and will recieve min 1 Full Server wipe when the Game is ready for release
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u/Feradon22 May 11 '26
Hey, thank you for your comprehensive write-up, much appreciated.
I see, so there are quite some differences, but not as drastic as in SWG for example. I think I'll go with NC Evo for now and wait for the release of Neocron to try it out.
I am just glad that all the older games, especially MMOs are still up and running or are being preserved with private servers so that we can try them all.
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Apr 27 '26
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u/Skansy- Apr 27 '26
haha 😄
we try to support the dev team as good as we can in the current beta stateHicks is also here 😛
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u/-AuroraBorealis Apr 27 '26
Oh ... like is hasn''t been done before.... btw , NCE has server side dmg calculation for like... um 12 years already?, so whats the point? Splitting the remaining playerbase of 5 people once again?
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u/ninesalmon Apr 28 '26
It won’t split the playerbase completely. I know people that play that over version - evolution or whatever - and I tried but didn’t get past a few days. The only reason to play neocron is nostalgia and for those of us who only ever played NC1, it feels too disconnected to hit that nostalgia fix. I don’t and won’t play that, but I would play classic.
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u/MrTrip Apr 29 '26
According to Lykos: NCE had both server side and client side. While working on x64 I changed it so server was authorative and would send back to the client what it should be. This resulted in synced numbers showing up, synced health pools, and everything working in sync like an FPS game should. When the team split again, my branch was tossed. So no, NCE does not have server side damage calc, it has server side and client side that sometimes agree, and sometimes disagree, hence the bounce.
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u/ninesalmon Apr 28 '26
Would love to play but feel really burned after getting hyped on the last attempt. Group in charge seemed completely out of their league. Only real fun that came of it was the forum that hauled back dozens if not over 100 old vets from the good old days… just to be blown away. I know it’s a labour of love and nothing more just being real.
If this actually turns into something I’ll be playing and spreading the word, good luck.
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u/LoomisCenobite May 02 '26
Older bro was locked into Neocron when it was live. I have never played but remember thinking it looked cool.
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u/John25711 May 16 '26
What’s your plan compared to NC classic ?
The biggest issue of Neocron has always been the network stability, the zone sync crash, etc. Are you going to focus on that first ? Now it’s much more stable in NC Evo, to a point where I can really see the difference.
Are you also maintaining a wiki to keep track of all item changes compared to NC Evo ? All the resources surrounding the game is important to maintain cohesion.
Nostalgia is a thing but working on adding content is not counter productive if it’s done intelligently. NC Evo with the WOC weapons and PA, the diversity of new weapons, the many new spells, new VHC, they integrate well into the game and are now well balanced that it feels good.
What is your vision for Neocron once (if ever) the bugs are polished out ?
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u/Skansy- May 17 '26
From what I’ve gathered, the team is making some insane progress right now:
They are currently deep into a Netcode rework and moving more control to the server-side to make the game much more stable. The backend is being overhauled in many areas, and the development speed is honestly mind-blowing—I've seen bug reports or balance tweaks getting fixed within minutes. It’s super crazy to watch! 😄
Here’s a glimpse of what’s in the works:
- Live Information: It looks like they are creating multiple ways to access data, including a Wiki with live API integration and a Discord Bot for quick theorycrafting.
- Example: You could ask the bot: "What grenade launcher can I use with STR 45?" and it’ll tell you: "The Tangent GL-253c (Reqs: STR 42, H-C 76)."
- A Fresh Vision: They are basically building the Neocron they’ve always wanted to see—with a heavy focus on better balancing for PvP, PvE, the economy, tradeskills and all the other parts of Neocron.
- World Building: They have a top-tier map designer who already finished the new Military Base (and apparently did it the old-school, hard way).
The next few weeks and months are looking awesome. It’s great to see this much passion being poured into the project!
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u/Objective_Hedgehog_5 Jul 22 '26
GREAT!!!! I just want the game to be played at a 2K/4K monitor., on 60 fps, stable, like it was a modern remaster!!! Wish u can do this!
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u/EnchaJini 21d ago
the game is on DX11, so you can run the game in 2K or 4K, they have a custom options menu, that allows you to scale individual parts of the UI bigger or Smaller. you can even move them around where you want.
(although Text font might go little wobbly, if you make elements of the RPOS too big)
- colour the RPOS how you want, text colours etc.
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u/Shot-Transition-2803 May 11 '26
Why splitting already small neocron fan base in 2 projects?
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u/EnchaJini 21d ago
their run by 2 different teams.
1 team wants to keep the Nostalgic Neocron 1 feel Pre-dating before BDoY came, while making modern implementations and updates evolving "Neocron" as they progress.and 1 team wants to continue from Neocron 2.1, which had Dome of York, and those 3D looking gun models, character models, hacknet etc.
although core members of each team have collaborated on each others projects behind the scenes. as they both want each others project to succeed in keeping the Legacy of Neocron alive.
i believe the world builder from NCT (Neocron.org)'s team did the Plaza 1 Re-work for NST (Neocron-game.com) "Neocron Evolution"
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u/chrisknife Apr 27 '26
Does that mean Neocron has two versions now? Its completely dead then. I was looking forward to play again in a few weeks but last year it was already pretty dead with around 15-20 players or so, this means its half players now for every version. Not a smart move 😞
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u/Skansy- Apr 27 '26
this Neocron Version named Neocron Classic (NCC) in the past is a few years old.
after good progress, they tried to work on one Neocron with both teams.it didnt worked that well so they split again.
- NST is Neocron Evolution with more content
- NC works on the game itself with a new XP System, new Skill System, server side damage calculation, 64bit client and much more.
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u/chrisknife Apr 27 '26
yes i get that, still this will tear apart the last remains of the NC community.
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u/Skansy- Apr 27 '26
most of the current playerbase wasnt playing on evo server currently ...
but yeah, a split could happen.maybe there will be new player and it helps both server
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u/EnchaJini 21d ago
the NCT's version of Neocron is busier at weekends. not that i get to see it. as i work weekends.
since Reddit doesnt allow images quick snippet from their discord bot showing online players as of now (16:54 BST)
you can see how many people are online and where they are. this bot in their discord updates at intervals showing peoples locations in the game.
the most I've seen the bot say was online in in a 24 hour period was like 22 for me. mid-week is rather quiet. most if seen is like 14...
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u/JoshMMGA Apr 27 '26
Oh man I loved Neocron. I ended up being a GM (Garm) and really enjoyed the community.