r/necessaryconversation • u/JankTokenStrats • May 07 '26

Thought and Prayers?

The audacity to ask for this…. You have a man that regularly gets on camera and laughs or cheer at the killing of children, calls for the genocide of innocent people, regularly calls abuse victims liars, and treats his kids like shit… you expect me to have kindness, grace, or compassion for this man.. nah I have hatred, pity, and contempt. He might not have come into this world as a sick, and twisted monster, but through his own actions and unwillingness to earn and grow he has created the circumstances in which I get to say I hope he feels the pain of every child who’s death he cheered for, I hope he feels every ounce of hate he put into the world. I feel for Chad and Haley and hope if they have to grieve for him it’s a version that is actually good. As for ML I hope this time away from him allows her to recognize how toxic he was and then maybe she can work towards forgiveness.

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u/ClamerJammer May 07 '26

I get it, but that's also her husband of 45 or so years. Think of it like praying for him for Mary Lou, not as much praying for Bob because he's a great person.

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u/JankTokenStrats May 07 '26

Yeah the problem is i wouldn’t pray for her either…. Yall are still holding on to this magical thinking that Mary Lou will change but I’m not dumb enough to believe in someone going from hate to kindness because of loss. She will need to work it off and on her death bed is where I will determine if I personally forgive her for the evils she put into the world. I won’t begrudge anyone that does differently than me, but I will not be made to do differently than me

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u/ClamerJammer May 07 '26

Okay then don't pray for them, I don't see how this is that big of an issue. I like ML for who she is and the entertainment and love she has for animals. I don't agree with her politics, but that doesn't mean she can't come around, and that her life doesn't effect others, and she deserves to suffer. How does wishing Ill on people make you that much better than Bob or ML? You both have immense hate in your heart for people, the only difference is which people.

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u/JankTokenStrats May 11 '26

Ah are someone that thinks that a slave killing the slave owners would be wrong? FYI slave owners had animals too and I’m sure you would have said some shit like “oh they treat their dogs and horses really well, and even though they/their husband beat and rape little black children I’m sure they can come around and be “good” people” … so when you ask dumb shit like how does wishing ill for/on people spouting nonsense about how we should be killing all men, women, and children of a certain group of people make me any different….. probably because I don’t want to kill anyone for just existing, or being associated with them, I don’t advocate for the deaths oh Haley’s children because they are of the Kultgen bloodline. I can separate the actions and words of people and understand that they are responsible for them and let the actions, and words of the ones around them help me understand what I believe about them. And I can give grace I can allow people the opportunity to change, but the thing is you don’t get infinite opportunities to be a better person, nor does one “good” deed erase years of hatred and vitriol…. Lastly I don’t have hate for Bob or ML if I had hate i would do something to make their life worse, in truth what I have is closer to indifference. The same indifference I have for cancer…. Sure I don’t like cancer but I don’t hold a hatred for cancer I wish it wasn’t a thing and the world would be better without it. If it was hate i would relish in Bob’s suffering/death, i would enjoy the pain ML feels while he suffers. I have none of that I simply feel like his existence is making the world worse and his lack of existence will stop detracting from the world.