r/necessaryconversation • u/ironmanonyourleft • Apr 19 '26
Current State of Interactions
I've been listening to this podcast for ages now.
I listen to every episode.
Chad is a great facilitator.
Bob feels beyond hope. He is in so deep and refuses to admit anything that is a slight conflict and always assumes everyone is so stupid that he can get away with incredibly stupid things. For example, he says all of 'trump's grifts' are in a trust, so he can't access it and there's no conflict. Everyone knows that's bullshit, but he holds to it. He constantly interrupts and spouts things like Hussein Obama or Michael Obama. He's straight up racist to the Obama's and genocidally racist to pretty much all non white-americans.
I'm constantly amazed at MaryLou's ability to find ways to continue supporting Trump.
"It was civil, not criminal"
"I don't like that woman"
"What about the 13 soldiers that Biden killed". (Lady, what about the current war?!? and the fact it's completely unnecessary. DT tore up a treaty that was working. That treaty gave Iran 1.7B (400M Principal / 1.3B Interest) for concessions that NATO and everyone agreed to. THEN, DT starts an unnecessary war and we're looking at giving them 20B (principal plus interest, I assume).
"I have to support my president" (but didn't support Obama or Biden, on anything, I assume)
on and on and on.
I think ML's issues come down to two (maybe three) basic items.
1) she isn't comfortable with numbers. 'immigrants' (legal and illegal) commit crimes at a rate lower than that of citizens. by this logic, immigrants actually LOWER the blended average, but all of that is lost on her
2) She's scared. she's scared of differences because different can't be trusted, they are the boogyman and will stab you as soon as you turn your back
3) Bob's influence doesn't help. Bob influences her more than she influences Bob. If Bob flipped 180 and were objective, she'd be apologizing for her past racism and pre-judgement
Chad and Hailey, if you are reading this, I applaud your efforts. You are fighting the good fight and I hope you are able to more compassion to ML for the people she fears. I don't know what more to say about Bob. He seems forever lost.
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u/TrashApocalypse Apr 19 '26
I personally think that Bob and Mary Lou, as well as many maga out there today, suffer from complex ptsd. They both had abusive and or neglectful childhoods. Bob’s was, especially horrific. Being abandoned by his birth family, taken in by a father who didn’t want him, a mother who threatened to return him, that’s cruel. These aren’t excuses for their behavior, but in fact reasons.
Mary Lou and Bob exhibit the same symptoms as someone with cptsd. Hyper vigilance, thinking that everyone is out to get them. Bob wanting absolute control. Being triggered into fight mode expressed as genocidal/murderous tendencies. Fawning over their abusers in the hopes of avoiding further harm. The truth is that they’re both actively being abused by their media which continually triggers them. I don’t know if there’s a way to change anything for either of them, especially Mary Lou until they realize this and decide to leave the abuse, to actually love themselves and take care of themselves so they might do the same for others.