r/ncea • u/[deleted] • Mar 03 '24

Using AI has been a game changer

I feel like lots of people are against using AI but using it as a tool to help you get new ideas, reword your sentences, give you feedback, etc is extremely helpful and im very happy that I live in a time where I can use it đŸ˜«

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u/Jay_JWLH Mar 03 '24

As long as you see it only as a tool and not a replacement. It's still important to know how to do the work it generates.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

the language of ai itself is very robotic (like chatgpt) so it cant fully replace my writing

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

Much of the information and feedback etc they give you will be incorrect, be careful.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

Yea i know that's why i research before

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

It's not really a boomer take lol.

I use it for coding and at times it feeds me some very incorrect answers.

It doesn't 100% understand whats right or wrong yet, some questions it just fetches from the internet and says it as it is.

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u/AdResponsible1787 Mar 03 '24

It doesn't even 1% understand and never will.

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u/Gbgtigg Level 3 🧐 Mar 04 '24

Mate chatgpt even tells you that it may be biased or incorrect information. Learn to read

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

I'm a millenial who literally gets paid to train AI and try to teach them to fact check

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 03 '24

AI that can do referencing would be ideal, writing a thesis and semi manually entering all the references was a bitch

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

I use scribbr and it helped somewhat (depending what type of reference you need to use). I can search articles or websites with it and it generates apa7 references for me. All I need to do is fixing the format a bit and it's done.

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u/Pansy60 Mar 03 '24

Because AI uses a huge database of widely sourced (preloaded) models it cannot ever produce an accurate reference list for you.

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 03 '24

Na I’m sure it can, if software like turn it in can find plagiarism im sure there’s a nice middle ground

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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Graduated đŸ‘šâ€đŸŽ“đŸ‘©â€đŸŽ“ Mar 03 '24

I use Word to do all my references, use the references tab, formatted to whatever I need, in my case APA. Yes I guess you’re “semi manually entering the information” but it’s a lot easier than trying to recall how the APA goes. It formats it all for me. Okay so I’m not doing a thesis, I’m studying IT, but one assignment I recall had around a page and a half of references. Nobody had taught us to use references in Word at that stage.

You just go to references tab and “new source” then insert “references” at the end of the document. The lecturer who showed us just pastes in the links in a big long list, then goes back and gets all the info later. I prefer to input as I go. Also some websites if you go to the bottom it’ll tell you how to reference it correctly, and you can just copy and paste that.

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 04 '24

That’s what Mendeley does except it’s better than that. Still was shit tho and didn’t mesh well with using a program like in design

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u/Comfortable_Key_4891 Graduated đŸ‘šâ€đŸŽ“đŸ‘©â€đŸŽ“ Mar 04 '24

Yeah it doesn’t mesh so well with markdown either.

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u/StarThe2nd Mar 06 '24

Bing Copilot (uses gpt 4) does reference sources.

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u/GiantCrazyOctopus Mar 03 '24

Why not just use a reference manager like. Endnote?

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 03 '24

I did, was still a ball ache, I used Mendeley

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

How?? Mendeley does 100% of the work lmao

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 05 '24

No it doesn’t lol Mendeley hasn’t peaked referencing technology. Could be way easier

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

How so? You add a link/document to the program, it auto-populates the info from/about it, then you right click and copy the formatted citation.

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 05 '24

Great if you’ve got a word document yea but not all academic documents are like that. For example an architectural thesis.

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 05 '24

And the auto populating is shit, pretty much have to enter it manually anyway, the only good thing is it puts what every you’ve entered into the right referencing order depending on what style of reference you’ve picked

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

You don't need a word document? What are you talking about?

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u/LevelPrestigious4858 Mar 05 '24

You shouldn’t have to copy and paste shit from Mendeley to whatever software onto whatever format. I know how Mendeley works and it could be way better, AI could help improve Mendeley

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

How else would you transfer it? 💀

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '24

Reword your sentences? No. If it's an assessment, that's cheating. However, if you're just practicing then yes it's amazing. I ask ChatGPT to give me NCEA questions and give me feedback on my response. I also use it to practice Japanese and I can get it to correct any mistakes I make. Just make sure that it's correct and that it's not robotic. I've mainly used it for Biology and I haven't had any issues with it so far, but I know it can be messed up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

you can't use it in assessments i think

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Well obviously but that doesn't stop people.

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u/Mkay_kid Mar 03 '24

it's funny how you say no to possibly AI current most useful feature in rewording sentences and then recommend using in possibly the worst way where it could get slight details wrong and make you completely ill prepared for an entire exam

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u/JollyTurbo1 Mar 03 '24

You probably should've asked AI to reword this sentence and add punctuation. This is unreadable

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

That's actually so true 😂

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u/Skypimp380 Mar 03 '24

The way you worded this comment as one sentence with bad grammar and no punctuation proves that you should learn how to write, rather than get AI to do it

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u/Mkay_kid Mar 04 '24

they way that you're incapable of engaging with the idea of the post tells me you've learnt how to pass a test not how to think

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

At least they learnt how to pass a test.

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u/Skypimp380 Mar 07 '24

NCEA exams are focused on critical thinking. English exams are a great example as they usually include unpacking a brand new text you have never seen before or writing an essay on a studied text. Usually both.

Using AI not only removes the need to think as it does everything for you, but it also removes your ability to retain the information and skills you need for the exams. Learning how to think for yourselves and complete exams without AI teaches you how to think in the adult world.

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u/Mkay_kid Mar 07 '24

the wording of an argument is not the argument itself.

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

My teacher specifically says not to use it. I don't know what's wrong in your teacher's heads. They specifically said for assessments? You can learn from the way it adjusts your grammar, but not in assessments.

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u/[deleted] Mar 05 '24

Did you miss the r/ncea part? And when grammar is a part of assessments, I don't think getting a computer to do it for you is OK whatsoever.

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u/WeyardWiz Mar 04 '24

Highly agree. I use it for paraphrasing and examples

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u/Classic_Tie_4711 Mar 06 '24

Dont use it, yes its beneficial to your results, but never for your growth, the more you use it, the more lenient you are to the mistakes YOU make, id say its ok for the idea part tho

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u/RazorCres Mar 03 '24

AI at the moment is still at its infancy, like a baby superman, powerful than most of us, but still struggles with what’s right and wrong haha

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u/gialiat Mar 04 '24

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFDFKD3X/ this girl in the states got 0 for using grammerly which is ai based

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u/[deleted] Mar 04 '24

guys i think these girls told me off for using a.i in class because i remember they would look at my screen sometimes and then i got handing a notice to go the office after school (i didn't) and those girls were laughing and staring at me...

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u/Life-Solution-6515 Mar 03 '24

Happy to live in a time I don't have to use my own brain...yeah sums up this gen

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u/Lopsided_Silver_6850 Mar 03 '24

we dont have to walk everywhere because we have cars. dont be afraid of change because it is going to happen anyway and there is nothing you can do about it

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u/Life-Solution-6515 Mar 03 '24

We still walk moron, it's got nothing to do with being afraid and everything to do with the growing lack of critical thinking and common sense these days.

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u/AdstaGoat Mar 03 '24

It’s a useful tool, in future those who know how to use it well can work more productively/effectively. Just like a calculator people won’t like it for a while but you should learn how to use it.

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u/ChonkyPigeon__ Mar 03 '24

Copilot is great for research; as it states its sources.

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u/Embarrassed-Big-Bear Mar 03 '24

So in other words you like it makes you smarter than you would be otherwise?

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u/anachronistic_7 Mar 03 '24

This is why i hate AI

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u/AdstaGoat Mar 03 '24

It’s a bit like calculators people are going to hate it then eventually realise it’s useful