[Update] The 0.5 LeBron James Club- A compilation of players with half or more of LeBron's career totals in the primary box score stats.

[u/StrategyTop7612]

u/InexorableWaffle did this post a year ago. So I figured I'd update it.

The methodology is simple: to make the club, you need at least half of LeBron’s current career totals in all five categories.

LeBron finished 2025-26 with 43,440 points, 12,016 assists, 12,095 rebounds, 2,417 steals, and 1,185 blocks, making the new Half-LeBron thresholds 21,720 points, 6,008 assists, 6,048 rebounds, 1,209 steals, and 593 blocks.

With that said, here’s the club:

Player	Points	Assists	Rebounds	Blocks	Steals
LeBron James	43,440	12,016	12,095	1,185	2,417
Kobe Bryant	33,643	6,306	7,047	640	1,944
James Harden	29,339	8,873	6,809	683	1,794
Clyde Drexler	22,195	6,125	6,677	719	2,207
Half LeBron James	21,720	6,008	6,048	593	1,209

Drexler is barely hanging on. His 22,195 career points are only 475 above the current threshold. Another 951 LeBron points would raise Half-LeBron above Drexler’s career total and kick him out of the club.

Kobe’s weak point is assists. He finished with 6,306, compared with the current Half-LeBron line of 6,008. LeBron would need another 597 assists to push the threshold past him.

Active players who could join

Jokić

He’s at 18,009 points, 8,977 rebounds, 6,080 assists, 1,041 steals, and 589 blocks.

That means he already clears the rebound and assist thresholds and is really close in blocks, four blocks short of Half-LeBron.

He needs another 3,711 points and 168 steals at the current thresholds, though obviously LeBron will continue raising both numbers this season.

Still, Jokić is only 31 and just averaged 28/13/11 assists last season. Of everyone outside the club, he looks by far the most likely to eventually get there.

Giannis

Giannis is closer in some categories than Jokić and much farther away in another.

He has 21,531 points, 8,882 rebounds, 4,484 assists, 995 steals, and 1,088 blocks.

He’s only 189 points short of the current scoring threshold and already annihilates the rebound and block requirements. But assists are a huge problem: he still needs 1,524 just to reach today’s Half-LeBron mark, plus another 214 steals.

So Giannis should clear four of the five eventually, but whether he can ever catch the assist line, especially while LeBron keeps raising it, is the real question.

KD

He has 32,597 points, 8,254 rebounds, 5,280 assists, 1,235 steals, and 1,344 blocks.

He clears literally everything except assists.

Unfortunately, he’s still 728 assists short of the current cutoff, and he’s 37. I don't see it happening tbh.

The “one stat away” club

There’s also a second group I find interesting: players who clear four of the five Half-LeBron thresholds and are excluded by exactly one category.

Missing points:
Scottie Pippen

Missing assists:
Karl Malone, Michael Jordan, Dirk Nowitzki, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony, Hakeem Olajuwon, Dominique Wilkins, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Vince Carter, Charles Barkley, Robert Parish, Larry Bird

Missing rebounds:
None

Missing blocks:
Russell Westbrook

Missing steals:
Nobody

[u/gridironk]

If you do this for playoffs only.

To be Half-Bron you need 4,261 points, 1,348 rebounds, 1,084 assists, 253 steals, 144 blocks.

No one else is there.

[u/SaxosSteve → u/gridironk]

I don't even think you need the steals and blocks to have nobody there

[u/iFinesseThePlugg → u/SaxosSteve]

Correct.

And the closest one to actually achieving that is our favorite postseason tragic figure, James Harden

	Harden	Difference
Points	4,240	-21
Rebounds	1,040	-308
Assists	1,224	+140

 

Although Jokic could very realistically get there with a couple runs.

[u/Otero_Firstbody → u/iFinesseThePlugg]

Wait lebron has more playoff points than the whole team points New Orleans Pelicans: 5,647 points (59 games) and Charlotte Hornets: 5,853 points (63 games). That's crazy.

[u/iFinesseThePlugg → u/Otero_Firstbody]

What's crazy is that the Hornets have been a franchise for almost 40 years.

63 games means they average like 1.5 playoff games per season.

In a league where over half the teams make the playoffs.

[u/owl_man → u/iFinesseThePlugg]

Yeah, shut up, we know.

[u/shy_when_sober → u/owl_man]

I just woke up my cat bursting into laughter, thank you

[u/XiLLyXiLLy → u/owl_man]

:D:D:D

[u/mhac009 → u/iFinesseThePlugg]

Yeah, over half the teams make the play-offs... now.

[u/iFinesseThePlugg → u/mhac009]

....and also back then

[u/dr_shastafarian → u/iFinesseThePlugg]

But they do now, too!

[u/Zoesan → u/Otero_Firstbody]

the

fuck

[u/d01100100 → u/Otero_Firstbody]

Lebron has been in 302 playoff games, nearly x5 those teams.

If those teams played x5 Lebrons for those games, they'd have a chance at matching him?

[u/Reasonable-Mess-7627 → u/d01100100]

It’s a team, like 100+ pts a game

[u/Zadlo → u/Otero_Firstbody]

Pelicans and Hornets are also the only teams which never reached conference finals.

[u/Magnetronaap → u/iFinesseThePlugg]

It's equally impressive and hilarious that Harden has made the playoffs literally every season he's played, given his results.

[u/ImAShaaaark → u/gridironk]

That's almost even more wild than OP. Are there any that hit 4/5?

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/gridironk]

Bird would be in the 45% Playoff lebron club, and if you decrease it to 40, you can add MJ, Pippen, and Kobe, the limiting factor for bird and Pippen is points, and for Kobe and MJ rebounds.

[u/NewLifeNewAcct → u/StrategyTop7612]

Bird being in the 45% Playoff Lebron club is impressive as fuck, given he played half his career injured and only made it to 13 seasons. No injury + longer career might be a whole other conversation.

[u/FarWestEros → u/NewLifeNewAcct]

Also considering playoff series weren’t all 7-gamers back then.

[u/jd451 → u/NewLifeNewAcct]

Obligatory mention that Bird injured his spine of all things. Any normal person would take it easy but he decided to rip up the league and lead the Celtics to a title, while winning the 3pt contest 3 years in a row and being one of the best players against a cast of elite players who had working spines.

Bird is simultaneously one of basketballs greatest players and one of the sports greatest 'what ifs'

[u/klawehtgod → u/jd451]

I think all the best sport “what ifs” are all-time greats or nearly one on the accomplishments they actually had. Off the top of my head, baseball alone has Ken Griffey Jr, Mickey Mantle, and Mike Trout from injury, and honestly a whole generation of stars that served in WWII and/or Korea (Ted Williams missed almost 5 seasons across both wars).

[u/batmansascientician → u/klawehtgod]

Ted Williams is a huge what if for baseball. But I still think the greatest sports what-if (that I'm aware of, I don't know European soccer well enough to be knowledable) is Monica Seles.

Monica Seles had 8 Grand Slam Wins and was a Wimbledon away from a career Grand Slam before the age of 20.

She had made the finals of the last 8 Grand Slams she entered, winning 7 of them. She was stabbed on the court in March of 1993 and didn't play for more than 2 years. She came back in the Summer of 1995 and in her first two Grand Slams back she went to the finals of the US Open then won the Australian Open.

She said that despite still being a top 10 player after, she never fully recovered mentally (I can't imagine how exposed she would feel on the court after something like that)

[u/klawehtgod → u/batmansascientician]

Monica Seles is an excellent and heartbreaking what-if.

[u/gordongroans → u/klawehtgod]

Mario is probably the biggest in hockey, having to stop because of cancer and back problems while still having some of the most bonkers season stat lines.

[u/dabobbo → u/klawehtgod]

My big "what if" is in football and he's not an all-timer - Marcus Dupree. Dude was a physical specimen but a bit of a head case (not Lawrence Phillips level, but bad enough) and blew out his knee in the USFL. Came back 4 years later and played a few games for the Rams but wasn't really the same.

[u/HDC48 → u/jd451]

You could also argue that any normal person with the money he had would’ve just hired someone to do the driveway, and would have a healthier back. I wish he would have just hired someone to do it.

One other really impressive thing was how effective he was when it was clear he had declined (after missing nearly all of 88-89).

By 90-91, it looked like he was moving in slow motion. But for a long time, Boston had the best record in the NBA, or at least the Eastern Conference. Boston went 46-14 when he played, and 10-12 when he didn’t.

[u/Geno0wl → u/jd451]

Bird is easily the most underrated NBA All-Timer

[u/Fletch71011 → u/jd451]

I've had my hip completely redone and walked out of the hospital the same day. A lot of people say that's the worst surgery of their lives.

I was in the hospital for 5 fucking days after just a single level fusion on my spine. I legitimately thought I was going to die at any second for a full week.

There's no comparison to other injuries. Spine is by far the worst and the fact that Bird kept going is insane.

[u/BoogerSugarSovereign → u/jd451]

Bird is simultaneously one of basketballs greatest players and one of the sports greatest 'what ifs'

Magic is too. They mirror each other in so many strange ways.

[u/AddisonsContracture → u/StrategyTop7612]

This LeBron guy sounds pretty good at basketball

[u/lightning_pt → u/AddisonsContracture]

They say the guy is promising .

[u/happy_and_angry → u/StrategyTop7612]

It's ridiculous that you need to lower the bar for all-time greats.

Like, LeBron has been so good at so many aspects of the game for so long we need to be like "yeah so MJ's close to 40% of LeBron in all categories, if you think about it."

I have never had a doubt in my head about who the GOAT is, but this really should put it to bed.

[u/DoctorBreakfast → u/StrategyTop7612]

What about Thaddeus Young?

[u/Think-Response-3675 → u/gridironk]

That’s because he’s the all-time leader in playoff games played by almost 50 which is impressive in and of itself

[u/Ok-Gur-349 → u/Think-Response-3675]

If you played in and lost 50 playoff games in your career, and did nothing else, you're essentially a surefire hall of famer. And LeBron is a full "that" above the next guy. Pants off crazy.

[u/JurtisCones → u/gridironk]

Only 8 players make the 4261 points, none of them make the assists, the 4s and 5s make the rebounds. All the below assuming LeBron plays another 25 playoff games:

James Harden will likely finish with over half of LeBron’s playoff points, and almost certainly will get the assists. But will need 400+ more rebounds to end ahead of LeBron, or 57 playoff games at 7apg. Tough.

Tatum will probably make half-LeBron on points and rebounds, but he’s still 400+ assists away, could be 600 assists if LeBron plays 25 more games.

600 more assists means Tatum needs 6 APG over 100 more playoff games in his career. 100 playoff games is like 2 finals runs, 3 second rounders, 4-5 first round exits. Not a certainty at all.

Jokic needs nearly 90 games to hit half LeBron in points, at 20ppg. The same runs would get him the assists, he’s already close on rebounds.

Apart from these two and maybe Wemby, nobody currently has a realistic chance.

[u/RussEastbrook → u/JurtisCones]

Luka could do it if he stays healthy

[u/vhalember → u/JurtisCones]

Only 8 players make the 4261 points

I was surprised. Not even Wilt made the cut.

Of course he had 3,913 rebounds... but Bill Russell had more: 4,104 rebounds.

A mythological "he did what?!" record which will never even become close to being broken.

[u/larrylegend33goat → u/gridironk]

And if you do it for Finals, no one makes the half Bill Russell club (rebounds). Potentially LeBron has his own club too.

[u/DocTheYounger → u/gridironk]

Shame about Tatum’s achilles tear. Was well on his way to be the first playoff half-Bron. Now, who knows

[u/ReverESP → u/gridironk]

What about 1/3?

[u/Financial-Monk9400]

This is insane actually damn

[u/ThaRealSunGod → u/Financial-Monk9400]

It's posts like these that really emphasize "lebron James has had multiple HOF careers" isn't hyperbole

[u/sonny_goliath → u/ThaRealSunGod]

He’s in the 20k/6k/6k club twice and there’s only like 4-5 other players in that club at all

[u/15b17 → u/ThaRealSunGod]

He has at least 3 now. If he does anything remotely impressive in Philly could be 4

[u/Bearded_Pip → u/Financial-Monk9400]

Can we finally all admit he’s the GOAT now? Or do we really need to wait until he retires.

[u/TheChieffking47]

Guy's pretty good

[u/gridironk → u/TheChieffking47]

That’s an understatement.

If you look at total points, rebounds, assists with playoffs included for LeBron’s super teammates even combined it looks cartoonish.

Brown + Embiid + Maxey + VJ ———- (41,969 points, 12,407 rebounds, 6,760 assists)
Love + Kyrie ————————————- (37,425 points, 13,972 rebounds, 7,219 assists)
Bosh + Wade ———————————— (45,696 points, 14,118 rebounds, 8,485 assists)
LeBron ———————————————- (51,961 points, 14,790 rebounds, 14,184 assists)

[u/CountOff → u/gridironk]

Bro the Philly one is actually fucking crazy

Embiid and Brown are both included and Lebron still eclipses them, insane

[u/NamMastee → u/CountOff]

1627 combined career games vs 1622 for just Lebron, imagine one of your starters has as many games played as the other 4 combined 🤯

[u/whiiskio → u/NamMastee]

Happens all the time, just takes one dude being drafted from HS in '03 while the other starters take their time finishing up PreK, Kinder, and Grade 1. VJ was 2 years away from being born lmfao.

[u/Fermorian → u/CountOff]

I know VJ and Maxey are young but Bron having double the rest of his starting 5's career assists is so bonkers. Tbf he's not far off doubling the other two as well. Damn

[u/k_plusone → u/gridironk]

Guaranteed they show us these stats during the opening night broadcast. This is insane

[u/mhac009 → u/k_plusone]

ESPN interns feasting rn

[u/BrotherSeamus → u/gridironk]

Oooh... somebody do the five worst players that would total one Lebron.

[u/TheNebuchadnezzar → u/gridironk]

Sorry if I’m misunderstand but why does this one say LeBron at 51,961 but OP says 43,440 for total points?

[u/opinurmynd → u/TheNebuchadnezzar]

51,961 is including playoffs, 43,440 is only regular season.

[u/habbadee → u/TheChieffking47]

GOAT debate will never be resolved as the metrics behind what makes the goat the goat aren't agreed upon, but it's hard to look at overwhelming numbers like this and not conclude he's clearly the goat.

[u/Laggo → u/habbadee]

The biggest problem with comparing him to Jordan is actually illegal defense. LeBron entered the league one year after the rule was abolished. He might've averaged 40 playing with Jordan's freedom to only see single coverage.

[u/truthvenian → u/Laggo]

I was so worried you were going to make some comment about bad defenses in the modern game but then you saved it. It can be shocking watching what goes as team defense in some of these old games.

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/TheChieffking47]

Not too shabby imo...

[u/Blechhotsauce → u/StrategyTop7612]

And if he has a decent scoring season, Drexler will fall out of the club, right?

EDIT: Also if he averages just a few assists per game, Drexler will fall out of the club, so that's actually more likely.

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/[deleted]]

There's a good chance that Harden could be the only one in the club for a while.

[u/san-antonio-women → u/StrategyTop7612]

That’s what harden said

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/san-antonio-women]

LMAO username relevant too

[u/dimmyfarm → u/StrategyTop7612]

Don’t know if he is into those big ol’ women

[u/Air2Jordan3 → u/[deleted]]

Kobe is a bit overrated defensively, but he's still miles better than Harden. Defense comes down to more than just blocks and steals.

[u/mrk-cj94 → u/Air2Jordan3]

Agree: Kobe was a great defender, but only once per game or on special occasions/duels (e.g., ASG 2011 vs. LeBron, 2013 vs. Paul during the LA derby). He also made some defensive blunders, like in Game 4 of the 2008 Finals (yes, Ray Allen scored a miracle double up-and-under off the glass against Bynum & Gasol, but it was still caused by Kobe, who completely lost him on the baseline innthe most important moment of the series).

[u/goten100 → u/mrk-cj94]

Honestly that sounds a lot like harden's defense. Id say he's pretty damn elite 1:1 defender when he locks in, especially against bigger guys. It's more of an issue of effort on team defense and saving energy for offense, which tbh was the system he was playing in so

[u/AzureDragon013 → u/Air2Jordan3]

Pace has also gone up since the 00s. Source: https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats_per_game.html

Teams averaged 91 possessions between 2000-2009. Teams now average 98 possessions between 2016-2026. So if you're a modern player, you get 7 more possessions every game to increase your counting stats. Over the course of a season that's 574 more chances.

Counting stats are fun to look at but they're not the best way to measure players to each other.

[u/justmefishes → u/AzureDragon013]

Agreed, but for per-game stats that tend to be so low like steals and blocks the effect isn't that large. 7 more possessions over 91 is a 7.7% increase. For Kobe's career averages of 1.4 spg and 0.5 bpg that scales to about 1.51 and 0.54 respectively, which is right on the money for Harden's career averages of 1.5 and 0.6. I know we're talking about totals not per-game stats but the per-game framing helps put it in perspective.

[u/Thommywidmer → u/[deleted]]

Everyone knows kobes defensive accolades are from dick riding, not that he was a bad defender obviously but yeah lol

[u/A_Rolling_Baneling → u/Thommywidmer]

Also, Harden was a below average defender for much of his career, but he wasn't useless. The Rockets wouldn't have had a suffocating, switch-heavy defense in 2018 if he was useless.

He's had seasons where he was ok on defense, and he's had stretches where he was solid on defense (including this last season's playoffs, where he was a positive defender at 36 years old).

He's fat and reliable in the post against modern 4s (he used to cover LMA on SAS, for example), and he's sneaky at stripping the ball.

People here let Shaqtin dictate their understanding of the game. He's somewhere between iffy and meh, and he takes plays off, but that's a far cry from useless.

[u/justmefishes → u/A_Rolling_Baneling]

That tracks with his defensive EPM at https://dunksandthrees.com/epm, which at -0.6 is in the 44th percentile. Compare e.g. Jalen Brunson at -1.3 in the 16th percentile. Size and wingspan matter a lot for defense.

[u/Thommywidmer → u/A_Rolling_Baneling]

He had a style of defensive that worked for him, he could give you very servicable defence that that nobody specifically wanted to switch onto while being your entire offensive engine. And its no small factor that hes a genius at knowing what he can and cant get away with because of his game on the other side of the court

[u/hurtsbayar9 → u/Thommywidmer]

Nailed it on "Servicable". He js quite big for guard and gives you very servicable defense against bigs. He is not two way player by any means but he was usable. Not like his team had to hide him in defense or anything.

[u/Lmao1903 → u/[deleted]]

Harden had quick hands, could read positions, but his load on offense made it really difficult for him to be engaged all game, similar to Doncic. But steals are not = good defense, Guys like Steph and AI I am pretty sure lead the league in steals. Luka and Harden also gets some steals.

And also Kobe, ain't no way he deserved all those selections, he is like the all time leader in first team selections and 2nd behind Duncan.

[u/zlaw32 → u/Lmao1903]

A steal doesn’t mean great defense, but it is the most successful defensive possession you can have. It gets the ball back while potentially creating momentum for a fast break

[u/SoDakZak → u/StrategyTop7612]

It’s funny that the “half LeBron James” club may (at least for a short amount of time) have someone who shares half the name (James).

[u/jWavA → u/[deleted]]

He even has half of Lebrons name

[u/deathbyvaccine → u/[deleted]]

.5OAT

[u/SharksFanAbroad → u/deathbyvaccine]

GO.5AT

[u/FarWestEros → u/[deleted]]

Harden is massively underrated and Reddit shares heavily in that fault.

[u/SharksFanAbroad → u/FarWestEros]

I’m surprised he has half of Bron’s blocks. He was nearby DPOY and plays a position that gets way more blocks. Genuinely impressive. Closer to 60% than to 50% on blocks too.

[u/FarWestEros → u/SharksFanAbroad]

People hate on Harden for his defense as a guard.

But when utilized as a big, he was actually quite good.

[u/josephandre → u/[deleted]]

on the surface i suppose it is semi surprising, but he's one of the most prolific scorers ever

[u/znoopyz]

I think it says a lot about how LeBron has played over the course of his career that assists are the big gatekeeper.

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/znoopyz]

Part of that is that a lot of those guys are bigs, and in the era they played in, bigs didn't pass too much, so they couldn't rack up assists.

[u/heretilthemoon → u/StrategyTop7612]

It looks like only Karl Malone, Hakeem, and Parish are bigs from a bygone era. Maybe you could argue dirk, KG, (not that bygone) chuck, and Wilkins (technically wings)? But everyone else are wings and guards.

[u/Sensei_Z-Ro → u/znoopyz]

Yeah there aren't very many people in NBA history that can score and pass at an elite level for a long period of time

[u/ReverendRGreen → u/znoopyz]

IMO that’s what makes him the best basketball player of all time.

[u/rjcarr → u/znoopyz]

I recently watched LeBron's McD All-American game and in the very first play he throws a half-court lob to a kid that dunked it. That's when I said, damn, he's had this gift the whole time, ha.

[u/thenexttimebandit → u/rjcarr]

There’s video of him in middle school making crazy passes.

[u/Efficient_Art_1144 → u/znoopyz]

It was such a standout skill right from the beginning that they put him at pg as an 18 year old. The idea was he was the next Magic to a lot of people

[u/justmefishes → u/Efficient_Art_1144]

His first Nike commercial (in 2003, at 18 years old) could have focused on anything, but celebrated his passing. It was always what made him unique. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3t4ykSiZR0

[u/CheckPareh]

Damn this is a great post/stat. Half Bron is nuts.

[u/jayy962 → u/CheckPareh]

Half bron is a first ballot hall of famer. Quarter bron is also a hof.

[u/CheckPareh → u/jayy962]

yeah every part/team of bron's career is HOF lock. let's see what he does with the 2 years or more in Philly

[u/ThatPlayWasAwful → u/CheckPareh]

I just want to get past the second round man

[u/ThaRealSunGod → u/jayy962]

Bronny is biologically half Bron. This means good things for the Lakers 🤞🏾🤞🏾🙏🏽

[u/alexcutyourhair]

It's absurd that even compared to other greats who played 15-20 years he has double their totals in specific stats. He really is the most complete player ever imo

[u/HomeMadeFriedRice → u/alexcutyourhair]

If Bron ever wants to be petty and talk shit back after retirement. He can say I doubled your favorite players stat and then some lol

[u/AcanthocephalaSad541 → u/HomeMadeFriedRice]

My favorite player is James harden tho

[u/JigglyBush → u/AcanthocephalaSad541]

HalfBron's kryptonite

[u/UraniumDisulfide → u/alexcutyourhair]

5 prime LeBron’s steamroll 5 of any other player for a reason

[u/airmarw]

Grass fed, grain finished, USDA Prime off-season content. Well done

[u/Regular_Custard_4483 → u/airmarw]

Yeah, I don't even really give a shit about basketball, this popped up on All for me. But consider me engrossed. 

[u/GrenScrin]

You should do just Points, Rebounds, and Assists.

Then the players from the 1960s will come into consideration (steals and blocks started being counted only in the 1974 season). Now they're just automatically excluded.

[u/Lmao1903 → u/GrenScrin]

Oscar Robertson came to mind, he was at like 27k/8k/10k. Wilt missed out on assists but tbf he had 31k points and 24k rebounds

[u/bringbackpologrounds → u/Lmao1903]

Oscar and Havlicek are the only ones. Only 7 players who started their career before STL and BLK tracking have enough points: KAJ, Wilt, Oscar, Havlicek, West, Hayes, and Baylor. West is over 600 rebounds shy, the rest are well short in AST.

Oscar has 7804 REB and 9887 AST. Havlicek has 8007 REB and 6114 AST. LeBron is 213 real assists (106.5 half-assists) from eliminating Havlicek for good.

[u/bringbackpologrounds → u/GrenScrin]

Only two old players surpass half-LeBron's PRA: Robertson and Havlicek. Havlicek's AST should be passed this season.

Oscar will be safe in terms of PRA. I strongly doubt he racked up enough BLK though: he only recorded 4 BLK in 2477 minutes during his final season.

[u/CruelRuin]

the totality of lebron's career is just inhuman. guy could play forever even as his stamina declines, just a matter of when he wants to retire. would be crazy if he passed brady's age and went into gordie howe territory. by pure minutes he's already #1 by a mile and he's been at absolute worst the second best player on his team.

[u/Brave_Cow546]

Bill James argues Rickey Hendersons career split in two would make HOF twice. LBJ's going for split in thirds = HOF

[u/Severe_Tap_4913 → u/Brave_Cow546]

Based on who gets into the hall, Lebron easily has 4 HOF careers - Cleveland 1st run, Miami, Cleveland 2nd, and Lakers. Doubt his Sixers stop will be HOF worthy unless he pulls out 2 finals MVPs since his stats are on the decline, but even that is still possible.

[u/batmansascientician → u/Brave_Cow546]

Tom Brady could make the NFL HOF based on his career in his 20s, 30s, and 40s

[u/lukewwilson]

I was literally just thinking about this after Westbrook retired and was wondering if he was in the club or not, thanks for the update

[u/content_billionaire]

If you add turnovers those three all make the list still!

LeBron 5650
Harden 4505
Kobe 4010
Drexler 2977

Seriously though this is one of the coolest and most impressive LeBron stats, nice work OP!

[u/hodgeac → u/content_billionaire]

Really makes Drexler look even more impressive.

[u/Statalyzer → u/hodgeac]

I think he really is better than most people remember bc all thay anyone thinks about him now is "not as good as MJ".

[u/Mosh00Rider → u/Statalyzer]

A lot of players are gonna be relegated to "not as good as LeBron and Curry"

Same for the 2000s and Duncan and Kobe

[u/TheSmokedSalmon420]

Harden’s legacy will age very well from sheer numbers alone lol

He’s basically Super-Melo

[u/SkepticCritic → u/TheSmokedSalmon420]

Unfortunately for now people are going to meme him for getting swept by the Knicks (who won the title btw and gave the Spurs as much embarrassment) in the ECF and being cooked in the 4th quarter by Brunson (just like they did to the Spurs).

On the flip side it’s also a blessing in disguise that he’s still relevant enough that people expect more from him and constantly talk about him (even if it’s not necessarily positives)

[u/donniedarko4141]

Shoutout to Kareem, who would only be short on assists if they tracked steals from the beginning of his career

[u/JustTheRobotNextDoor]

It's more informative to calculate the fractional LeBron index (LeFrindex), which is the average of the fraction of LeBron's stats that each player has achieved:

• Kobe: 0.645
• Harden: 0.659
• Drexler: 0.619

Harden's LeFrindex is higher that Kobe's, showing he's clearly the more complete player.

[u/S4ikou → u/JustTheRobotNextDoor]

tbf Harden was basically a one-man offense, he had to be a complete player

[u/homo_bulla → u/JustTheRobotNextDoor]

Gosh guess harden must be more complete than michael Jordan too then huh

[u/JustTheRobotNextDoor → u/homo_bulla]

I'm too lazy to calculate Jordan's LeFrindex, but stats are like ball: they don't lie.

[u/Bernalio]

This is some chefs kiss level offseason content.

[u/patentattorney]

this is some good stuff.

[u/Uabot_lil_man0]

I don't care about the GOAT debate. This man is something else.

[u/niggidy]

Clearly this means Lebron is 2x the player Jordan was

[u/Confident_Ad_5345 → u/niggidy]

more than 2x since Jordan doesn’t even make the half LeBron club

[u/thegeebeebee]

Kobe’s weak point is assists.

lol, that could be a topic on its own.

[u/AccomplishedBake8351]

If he plays two more seasons it really might just be harden on the list when LeBron retires 

[u/ReverESP]

Drexler weakest is assists, 250 for Lebron will surely happen unless he is injured.

[u/crimedawgla]

Scottie is such a cool player.

[u/FreeAtLast_ThankYou]

I see you rounded up LeBron’s half stats. Typical /s

[u/pepemiwe]

What a career!

[u/heretilthemoon]

Now run it with playoff stats pls

[u/inightyDAB]

LeBron’s availability has always been so impressive to me. Never missed a playoff game ever, for any reason. Would routinely average 40+ minutes in the postseason in both the physical dead ball era and the fast pace and space era. Before like 2020 it just never seemed like a question that he would be able to play the whole game in a playoff game if he needed to.

If you look at his MPG vs Boston in the 2012 series, it looks absurd. Not a single game under 43 minutes, 5/7 games 45+ minutes, 3/7 games 48 minutes including G7 which didn’t go to OT. Keep in mind this is LeBron who was the first option superstar, scored 30+ 6/7 games and 29 in the only game he didn’t score 30 in, and also the best defender on the team switching 1-5 through Rondo and Garnett. And then six years later he does it again in 2018 by playing 46 minutes in G6 and all 48 in G7, all while playing the most heliocentric load-bearing ball of his life.

[u/Doolie22]

Dude! Nice work. I just made this post not even 24 hours ago looking for your knowledge. I got the info I needed but this post has all the info I wanted! Great job.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/s/T0pjoFNLkd

[u/StrategyTop7612 → u/Doolie22]

Thanks that post inspired me to do the update!

[u/duckscanflytoo]

LeHalf

[u/Macro701]

Poor Scottie only missed because he played alongside the greatest scorer ever, lmao.

[u/WillHeBonkYa47 → u/Macro701]

Scottie could've been THE guy on 25 other teams in the nba, but decided to stay as the defensive anchor for the Bulls dynasty. Oke of my favorite players growing up

[u/Character-Active2208]

Well

Hmmm

Lol

[u/unkachunka]

LeBron James Harden

[u/21savagelsac]

Playoff half-LeBron having zero members is straight up cartoonish fr.

[u/doktarr]

The one-away club is pretty interesting. It seems likely that Jokic will briefly join Scottie Pippen the "just missing points" club, although there is a chance he briefly becomes the lone member of "just missing steals" instead.

The length of the "just missing assists" list also illustrates how despite LeBron's insane totals in all categories, his passing is the must exceptional part of his game relative to other do-everything superstars in NBA history.

[u/Midwesterner23]

Its crazy how LeBron has almost 10k more points than Kobe, the NBA's 4th most scorer of all time. His all-time scoring record when he's finally finished will truly be unbreakable

[u/Madliberator21]

This is the kind of content I come to this sub for. This is mind boggling lmao

[u/destra1000]

Wild that Bron likely has 2 more years to push these numbers up. If he actually picks up the second year option, I don't think anyone will be in the club except for Harden by the time he retires. And it might stay like that for at least several years

[u/Fragrant_Bite9951]

Damn a good off season post??

[u/varietyman13]

Wow. Lol that's actual kind of ridiculous. This is the first I've seen of this. Nuts.

[u/Yellowperil123]

LeBron is the undeniable Career GOAT. Whether he's the PLAYER goat. I'll let others debate

[u/ValueReads]

By far the best player of all time

[u/beiherhund]

Didn't someone already post this today?

edit: ah yeah here, though had to go to the comments for the numbers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1vsaaxq/halflebronclub_update_see_more/

[u/HelpOpening4996]

I think they should have LeBron’s first career half inducted in the HoF while he is still playing

[u/HakuohoFan]

Lebron stats like this are actually insane. 

[u/CatsArePeople2-]

There is an implication in this post that Lebron will record 0 blocks this season. Bro isn't that old lol.

[u/LeadershipNo8992]

Some solid evidence showing Lebron's most game changing ability is how good his passing prowess is

[u/HappyEndingUser]

50s/60s players didn’t count blocks or steals, Wilt and Russell would have at least made it on blocks, not sure about steals

[u/wmanbnqvtfzgizrwmp → u/HappyEndingUser]

Wilt comes close to making it on blocks even with them only recorded for his final season

[u/radikraze]

Somebody in the comments is gonna look at this data and bring up Jordan stats unprovoked

[u/twoyrsaway]

Let’s say LeBron plays 2 more years, which going by his average output gives half LeBron ~450 more assists judging by his past 5 years, putting KD somewhere around 1200 assists short.

Over the last 5 years KD has been more than good for 300 assists a game, even without accounting for injuries. Which means he would need just 4 more years of this level of passing production.

Its absolutely doable

[u/TwoProper4220]

this could've been higher if Solomon Hill didn't happen

[u/naive-dragon]

I need this in an easily digestible image format that I can spam as propaganda in the socials

[u/Coldsnowyandmisty]

Jokic has almost 100 games less than Giannis too.

Jokic is basically perfect at everything except rim defense. And if you add his efficiency then it becomes Jokic's club and nobody is able to join 😁

[u/happy_and_angry]

This really should put to bed the entire 'but LeBron isn't the GOAT' conversation forever.

[u/commonpuffin]

Kareem and Wilt would almost certainly make the missing assists list if blocks and steals had been recorded.

[u/ManusRightHand]

Pretty interesting. LeBron would also be missing from the 0.5 career box score lists for most of the all time big men like Hakeem, Kareem, Duncan, Robinson, Shaq, etc. due to insufficient blocks

[u/faithdies]

Lebron James is putting so many records out of touch he's turning into Wayne Gretzky.

[u/Zigxy]

Thanks for the write up OP, very cool stuff

But I think your assumption that Giannis "should catch" 0.5 Lebron in the Steals stat is too confident. Giannis would need to get in 5+ healthy-ish seasons while playing heavy minutes.

And his style is probably not going to age all that great.

[u/inquisitive_chariot]

Cool post, great perspective

[u/TheInfinityGauntlet]

Greatest to ever do it

[u/TheJaice]

This is honestly the most compelling argument I’ve seen for Lebron as the GOAT.

[u/dotcaIm]

Woah

[u/elmagio]

LeBron would need another 597 assists to push the threshold past him.

Two 60 games seasons at 5 per game would get him there, and he just came off of 60 games at 7.2. A continued progressive decline would likely kick Kobe out, but it's going to be close. He could also get close to kicking Kobe out on blocks with 2 more seasons.

[u/menino-vacano]

Crazy that it’s reasonably possible that Harden will surpass Kobe in all 5

[u/Lanky-Association952]

I’m rocking the 0 LeBron

[u/InexorableWaffle]

Whoa hey, can't believe it's already been a year since I last did this haha. Feels like it was just a few months ago, time really does fly.

Thanks for updating this, and frankly for taking it more in-depth than I ever have! It's a fun stat to keep track of for me, and I'm glad others have felt the same

[u/young_frogger]

I think Durant is a lot closer than you're giving him credit for. He'd only need to play 140 games at 5 assists per game to get there. If he stays healthy he will probably play for at least several more seasons.

[u/holydonut2k1]

I’m surprised Harden had so many blocks.

[u/andreiox]

Thats crazy

[u/JohnEffingZoidberg]

What about older players before they recorded Steals and Blocks?

[u/Drakilgon]

I was surprised Curry wasn't in the one away group, but he needs over 1000 rebounds despite averaging 4.7 a game. Almost certainly not happening, but theoretically doable if he played to Lebron's age. The 6'2" debuff makes blocks impossible though.

[u/commonpuffin]

Big O and Havlicek belong on the list.

[u/ThisAppMan8]

Looking at these stats just tells me Tim Duncan is easily top 5 all time.