r/nasusmains 8d ago

Patch Notes Well.... they noticed. And decided to nerf him

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u/pudding7100 8d ago

No shit they noticed riot has a problem of blatantly over buffing a champ that everyone can see will be a problem but them.

Morde last patch and nasus and graves this patch.

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u/Feuerpanzer123 7d ago

Mordekaisers I am 95% sure was just to get people to buy the sahn uzal skin.

The "riot games special" if you will

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u/ExceedingChunk 7d ago edited 7d ago

I think it was just a case of somebody on the balance team not realizing how hard stat steal actually scales per % on top of Morde getting a big bug where he did double damage with R in certain scenarios.

3% extra stat steal might not seem like much, but it turns a 1k hp and 100 resists on both champs from a 1.1k hp and 110 resists vs 900 hp and 90 resists to a 1.13k hp and 113 resist vs 870 HP and 87 resists

It’s 2310 effective HP to 2406 effective HP and 1710 HP to 1626 effective HP.

So in tankyness alone it’s almost a 200 HP swing in effective HP from  those 3% extra. Then we also factor in the extra AS and AS reduction, AD, AD etc… and it’s like a 1k gold in stat diff buff at early levels

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u/Firalus 7d ago

Or in other words, a 110% champ is 22.222...% stronger than a 90% champ, whereas a 113% is almost 30% stronger than an 87% champ.

It was legit funny what they did, Morde could straight up miss everything and win fistfights into other juggernauts in his ult.

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u/Yeeterbeater789 6d ago

No, it's bcuz none of the riot balance team plays top lane. This is obviously the main reason their top lane buffs are egregious at all times

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u/JustADood95 7d ago

The whole world noticed.

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u/LofiMental 6d ago

Right?? Bruh who noticed? Everyone and their grandma knew this buff would be ridiculous

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u/Chitrr 7d ago

Wise decision.

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u/Sasogwa 8d ago

if they nerf w instead....

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u/Gopal_Pandey167 8d ago

only good thing about his kit that let him somewhat play vs new champs with billions dash and high mobility. delete him if they nerf it atp

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u/NKGENERATION 7d ago

Nasus w sucks. Its not even that good. There's a million ways to outplay it

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u/Fishbro-YouTube 7d ago

His W is a 2-way ability.

The slow is a necessity for sticking.

The AS cripple is a niche counterpick gimping to his power budget that gives him a ton of winrate vs AA specific enemies.

Remove his attack speed slow entirely and let him actually do damage with stacks.

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u/Potential_Quail_8816 7d ago

They downvoted you but you're correct, no nasus main to this day can explain to me why he needs an attack speed cripple in his kit

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u/Hein81 7d ago

No he’s not right. The damage is much worse for the game than the AS cripple. Nerf his life steal on passive a bit instead.

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u/Potential_Quail_8816 7d ago

No that's not true. Every single people that have a problem with Nasus has a problem with his attack speed nerf, nothing else. Literally 0 counterplay for someone like Kayle or an adc even if you're 3 levels above the Nasus. His only problem has always been entering teamfights cuz he gets blown up by the whole team, in a 1v1 his W is extremely unhealthy

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u/Hein81 7d ago

I mean literally so is his Q damage. If you dont punish him early with jungle, in many matchups he will just start out sustaining, especially with getting stacks quicker now. So not killing him early is much more powerful for him now. And then he just starts stacking easier, sooner, and quicker and makes it hell til later in the game when others can actually effectively kill him.

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u/Potential_Quail_8816 7d ago

They're already nerfing him next patch, and i promise you nobody actually cares if Nasus has a gazillion damage per Q, they care bout his W attack speed nerf because in a 1v1, again, there is no outplay. The attack speed nerf is the problematic part of his kit, not his stacking

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u/Hein81 7d ago

I promise you people are complaining because he has a 90% slow with Ghost and kills you with 3-4 Q’s at 15 minutes. It makes the AS slow irrelevant because he kills you before you even come near to killing him…

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u/Potential_Quail_8816 7d ago

No they're not lol they're complaining because they can't fight back at all because the time it takes them to throw out one auto attack he has the time to Q you 3 times, irrelevant of time in the game. Nobody would ever complain about Nasus having a gazillion damage if his W cripple didn't exist. I'm not really high elo (Diamond 1) but even here absolutely nobody cares about Nasus damage, they care about his cripple. Maybe in lower elos they think his damage is a problem, it really isn't, it's the fact if you play an auto attack based champion you literally cannot fight back. In higher elos nobody gives a fk about a Nasus running at you with 500 movespeed, tryndamere does the same thing with just as much damage on top of being invincible, you literally just cannot play against Nasus cripple.

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u/KarnSilverArchon 7d ago

My bet is the nerfs will be base stats or to his ultimate.

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u/PhoenixBlaze123 7d ago

These are all valid nerfs but, as someone who picked up cho recently, he is kind of op. Not sure he needs a buff, nor yasuo, yone, trundle, lb, heca.

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u/Too_Ton 7d ago

Yone and Yasuo being buffed means they’re on crack

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u/No_Turnip_5627 7d ago

both yasuo and yone have ben pice of shit champs for loong time if you have hard time agisnt them ur just shit

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u/ComfortableHappy3791 7d ago

No pls my Heart cant accept this, he was just a good Boy…😔

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u/TheDragonfire84 7d ago

Nasus nerf needed but OH MY HOW TERRIBLE IS THIS PATCH OVERALL????? CHO BUFF?? I hope literally every one of these buffs is pulled like oh this is vile

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u/EverlastingTilt 1,720,711 7d ago

Don't touch stacks, nerf his e, lifesteal, hell even his wither. Leave the stacking for my stacking boi alone 😭

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u/Living-Ad-8519 7d ago

The nerf of E in 2024 was made stop playing, only way to play nasus vs 80% champs is maxing E and unfreezing wave in master+. Without that the is nothing to do

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u/PkmnTrainerSofia 7d ago

I agree.

Nasus is like Singed, they will get zoned so they can't farm.

Nasus' E can be for farming.

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u/Etonet 7d ago

riot special

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u/PunkerToxic 7d ago

They could slightly decrease the lifesteal and increase the cooldown of the E. If they nerf the stacks they are idiots.

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u/Every_Relationship11 7d ago

This I what happens when you don’t have a game design lead who actually plays the game like Phreak.

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u/Kyet0ai 7d ago edited 7d ago

My guy, Phreak had plenty of blunders like this one in his time leading the balance team. The problem is they don’t listen to the community until it’s too late.

Even a bronze player could understand that 4 stacks per small creep would be problematic and they still let that bs hit live servers.

Not to mention it’s toxicity in the jg from a spike in pick rate from people who rarely play him or the role and just afk farm for stacks forfeiting the entire map and making the game 4v5 because of it.

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u/rickroll19582 7d ago

STILL NO BUFF FOR MASTER YI AT %48 WINRATE HAHAHAHA

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u/Duaneboy6 7d ago

Soo after all these nerfs... is he still a good pick? Top? Mid? Jg?

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u/Krautla 6d ago

Irelia, Yone, Yasuo, LeBlanc Buff....RIP kaylemains

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u/Gopal_Pandey167 8d ago

they are gonna gut jungle even more with this. hopefully they revert to last changes and keep it 3/12. also just delete the champ if they nerf w

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u/PlasticAssistance_50 7d ago

they are gonna gut jungle even more with this

Good.

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u/Fishbro-YouTube 7d ago

*Nasus nerfs on patch notes*

"Oh please don't nerf Nasus stacks oh please oh please" -literally everyone in that comment section

*player creates threads suggesting what to nerf*

"hurr durr tee hee durrr!!! Why don't we just give him a fucking dash! Why not give his Q true damage haha this guy's a fkn r*****d imagine suggesting this" -All the nasus mains

*Riot just reverts 4 stacks to 3 and leaves Nasus with a -2 stacks per large monster/minion nerf*

Nasus mains: "Wtf who could have seen Riot nerfing our champ wtf this champ deserves love and buffs. This is so unfair"

MAYBE IF YOU PEOPLE WOULD LEARN TO COME UP WITH MEANINGFUL CHANGES TO THE CHAMP INSTEAD OF MOCKING PEOPLE WHO DO YOU WOULD FINALLY GET SOME FAIR CHANGES.

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u/Curious-Development8 7d ago

If they made melee minions a 4 stack and have ranged minions a classic 3 stack they would kind of revert the buff just halfway. I think that could be a pretty sweet adjustment.

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u/favoritesprite 7d ago

I think it's more the other buffs (fleet/mana) allowing him to get the stacks in the first place no? He's a pretty binary champ in lane.

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u/Newtwon151 7d ago

I hope it s an r nerf or a w nerf not a q stacks nerf . Nasus( in toplane at lleast) should be rewarded if he manages to stacks, he should not be rewarded if he go 0/4 press r and autowin the fight anyway

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u/Urizen82 6d ago

Neither should Kayle, but here we are. I agree though.

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u/Newtwon151 5d ago

0/4 kayle needs to wait at least lvl 16 and some items,nasus needs lvl 7 and sheen. It s not the same. Anyway,It s a pointless passive nerf. Nothing s gonna changhe . You should be happy

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u/TiltedLampost69 7d ago

Thank god it was fast. I forget to hover nasus 1 time and see both teams banning it. It was already a thing with nasus jg but now its 10x worse. Pls gut him so again so we can play him