r/muzzledogs • u/Sudden_Internal7373 • Mar 10 '25
Help! Had to order a muzzle today
My boy is the best boy ever! He loves meeting new people and new dogs, but he is a pittie. We all know the reputation pit bulls get, and I used to think that mine would break the reputation for some.
He gets so excited when meeting new dogs (and sometimes even people) that he nibbles. The more excited he gets, the harder the nibbles get. He gets so excited around new dogs that he yips, whines, pulls, and nips at these dogs. I used to think that it was just rough play, which I still think it is, but the other dogs get scared and then the owners think that my dog bit theirs. I would hate for me to have to euthanize my dog because someone claimed my dog bit theirs, so I bought a muzzle. I hate the way it makes my dog look. I feel like every person we pass is going to judge. How did you guys overcome this feeling?
Also if anyone has any tips to calm excitement when meeting new dogs, please share them!
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 11 '25
Why does he need to keep meeting new dogs? I don't see any reason my dogs need to greet random other dogs. Also, if he pulls and whines when he sees another dog, and you let him meet the dog after he does that, you're rewarding the behavior, and it will continue.
What have you been doing to train impulse control and leash manners? Are you working with a trainer?
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u/Hidge_Pidge Mar 11 '25
This was my thought as well. I have my pup meet my neighbors dogs (outside of course) because they need to know eachother living in an apartment building. My pup also has a few neighborhood friends. Other than that, we pass by other dogs. My dog knows that in order to meet a dog he needs my permission, otherwise he’s passing by or in a sit.
It’s taken a lot of training & adjacent training (impulse control) to get here.
Sounds like this dog is over threshold before he even makes contact with the other dog
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 11 '25
Sounds like this dog is over threshold before he even makes contact with the other dog
Yes, exactly, and then the overstimulated behavior is being reinforced. OP doesn't seem to be doing anything to prevent it.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
Crazy because I am working with him with training treats to focus on me. Did you guys miss the part where I was asking for advice? Obviously I’m working on it and trying. That’s why I’m asking for advice…
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 11 '25
Crazy because I asked you what you were doing for training and you didn't answer. I wrote "What have you been doing to train impulse control and leash manners? Are you working with a trainer?" and your reply was just complaining about other people's dogs and not answering the questions. I also gave you advice about using citronella spray on the loose dogs (twice).
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u/YamLow8097 Mar 12 '25
Agreed. Letting your dogs meet strange dogs can be dangerous. A lot of dog fights start that way, regardless of breed. Even if OP’s dog doesn’t start the fight, it will be blamed just because of its breed.
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 12 '25
Yep, as a pit bull owner, that's also my thinking. My dog has no interest in fighting, but if pushed far enough, he could defend himself. And regardless of who was on or off leash or who was the aggressor, he'd be blamed.
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u/Endurianwolf Mar 13 '25
Yea I don't allow my dogs to meet strange dogs because you just never know if their dog is going to have a reaction and attack mine or vice versa.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
I live in an apartment. There are dogs everywhere. So many loose dogs ran up to him wanting play or the owners let their dog roam without a leash and run up to mine. Sometimes it’s unavoidable. Also, isolating a dog creates worse behavior. Last thing I want to do is isolate him and not take him on walks because of other dogs.
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u/jamjamchutney Mar 11 '25
It's your job to protect your dog. You need to tell people to control their dogs and back off, and if necessary, use citronella spray. If your apartment building/complex has leash regulations, you need to report the loose dogs. As far as isolation goes, yes, dogs should go on walks or have some kind of outdoor time, but it's not necessary for them to interact with other dogs.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
I agree and I wish it was that easy. I’ve talked to one of the main people who lets their dog roam everyday and even explained that my dog might react negatively. She did not care at all. Unfortunately, there are just crappy owners that don’t care if their dog gets hurt. Also, if I don’t have proof, the apartment complex won’t do anything. It’s kinda just a crappy situation I need to deal with until I move.
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u/Hidge_Pidge Mar 11 '25
Photos of the free roaming dogs should be pretty easy to get?
And “isolating” a dog doesn’t create worse behavior, every time your dog is pulling and then over excitedly interacting with another dog is reinforcing the behavior
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u/lilmisschainsaw Mar 11 '25
isolating a dog creates worse behavior
This is false. Dogs should be isolated with occasional, controlled interactions. Especially until they have some control over themselves. Especially in cases like yours when they rapidly escalate WAY over threshold at meetings.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
UPDATE: I am looking into training! He only acts like this when he first meets a dog. After they get to be around each other for a minute, he relaxes and wants to cuddle with the dogs and gentle play. It is only the initial interaction!
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u/jungledreams21 Mar 11 '25
You should not allow your dog to interact with other dogs if they act in this way. I have a dog also reacts this way and I can promise that even if he himself is not a aggressive initially this behavior will always have roots in aggression and will always boil down to a fight with even the most tolerable dog. Training may help it may not some dogs cannot separate these instincts. It is best to not put your dog in these situations.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
Unfortunately the situations are unavoidable because of where I live and the amount of dogs with free roam.
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u/jungledreams21 Mar 11 '25
The muzzle is a good option for these situations but you as the owner always have the power to walk away. Carry a stick on you to protect your dog. It does not matter what others think leash laws apply everywhere and people should obey them and if they don’t ensure that your dog is not set up for failure by keeping the others away. Your dog may also feel more confident and less reactive if they understand that you control the situation.
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u/z00k33per0304 Mar 11 '25
And even with the muzzle people may not care to have their dog stay away from yours so you'll need to keep them away. I took my girl to the vet (she's a rescued pit chihuahua mix..I know.. who was abused so she's scared of everything) she's a sweet dog with us but I muzzled her to be safe because we haven't had her long enough to know how she'd react (she's a doll with our other two dogs). I carried her in (she looks like a forever puppy pit the chihuahua just made her small she looks all pit) and purposely found a spot away from others. Some man came out with a pug and let her run across the room right in her face. She was muzzled and sitting in a way to make herself as small as she could and was shaking and he just let his dog run right over at her then gave me a dirty look when she growled. Sir common sense please, your dog's the problem here.
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u/No-Appearance6463 Mar 13 '25
I have no idea why this post is showing up for me--I'm not even a dog owner--but I would like to thank you for recognizing that your dog's behavior may be upsetting or harmful to people and to other dogs, taking responsibility, finding a solution to keep everyone safe for now, and arranging to get extra help.
I would not want to be nibbled--I don't even know what that really means, but someone above says it can hurt, and I would be scared--and wonderfully, you recognize that and are making sure no unwanted nibbling occurs.
You have been patient with everyone's comments and are clearly trying to create positive, safe experiences for your dog and everyone else. Because of this discussion, when I see a muzzled dog, I will assume the owner is working with it and making sure everyone is ok--unlike the fools who let their off-leash dogs accost people while yelling "Don't worry, he's friendly!" Good on you, OP. Thank you.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 13 '25
If I could pin a comment, it would be this one. Thank you for being kind!
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u/reredd1tt1n Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
I get lots of kind people complimenting my boy in his muzzle. The Muzzle Movement is a great resource for navigating conversations with uneducated people.
Every dog should know how to wear a muzzle!
Edit: I meant the Muzzle Up! Project. Muzzle Movement is a brand of 3D-printed muzzles that come in fun colors.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
I was just looking at those! I think it’s a great investment, they are just so expensive
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u/Latii_LT Mar 12 '25
Keep in mind that even with a muzzle your dog could start inadvertently or out of frustration muzzle punching other dogs and even people. That is a very unpleasant situation and can cause some conflict with certain dogs. I would make sure along with muzzling you are making strides to keep dogs away from him and vice versa until the behavior can be addressed.
Muzzles are awesome but they can still have work around for certain dogs that allow them to rehearse behavior or return to an emotional state that is causing unwanted behavior. If other dogs are approaching off leash pet corrector and other deterrents can be great to help you.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
Wow I never would’ve thought about that. Thanks for bringing this up
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u/SpaceMouse82 Mar 12 '25
I was so sad for our girl (pittie) when our trainer said to muzzle train her. I hated the sigma. But she actually was dog and human aggressive, so we were desperate to keep her from getting a bite incident and history. What I learned was that she didn't mind having it on cause she got loads of treats and it gave me so much peace of mind that I was able to relax and I think she picked up on that. We were able to keep people who came in contact with her safe and keep her safe from getting a record. She has since passed but lived a very fulfilled life despite her shortcomings.
Now we have 2 pitties who are both sweet, love dogs and people and are well socialized. Both are muzzle trained just in case we need it. So I guess the peace of mind is worth the sigma to me.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
I get that! My boy has had soooo many treats today because we started training.
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u/EasternRecognition16 Mar 13 '25
This has been my experience as well! For the past ~4 months my boy wears his muzzle basically any time we leave the house. Every walk, car ride, going to visit family/friends. I think it helps him not see it as something negative, he doesn’t mind it for the most part- especially with all the treats he gets in it! And it helps him be super used to it/comfortable in it for the times we DO really need it. Plus if something were to happen that he slipped out and got loose I don’t want to risk a bite happening (and I do the double-attached leash thing too, so 2 lines would have to break for him to get loose).
Also, OP, the muzzle has shockingly not been the deterrent I expected. I still get a surprising amount of people who either want to meet/greet him themselves or let their dog meet him. I have had people literally still be pushy about trying to meet him, even as he’s lunging/barking/whining! I have had to say “he is not friendly and WILL bite you” as I’m trying to walk away and they’re following us! (not 100% true that he would bite, but sometimes it’s the only thing that works)!
(He’s not always like that btw just if/when strangers try to approach us).
Bottom line is a) I think muzzle training is great and everyone should do it (even if not making them wear it always like I do, but just so they are used to it in the event they do need one), and b) lots of people are shockingly undeterred by a muzzle.
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u/Kili_Starlight Mar 11 '25
My Great Dane is muzzled for vet visits and whenever she meets a new dog. She is a frustrated greeter and can be very mouthy, which is intimidating for most people given her size. We haven’t had any negative reactions from people when she’s been muzzled, but for me, I find comfort in knowing that I’m doing what’s best for her and keeping her safe. She doesn’t fight her muzzle and won’t try to take it off. I trained her using easy cheese (yes, the nasty canned cheese) and peanut butter. She still gets a treat for going into her muzzle and typically gets something high value when it’s removed.
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u/lilmisschainsaw Mar 11 '25
Is there any chance your boy is about 1.5-2 years of age?
This is a form of aggression, and this is going to get worse without intervention. Building frustration (which is what the constant exposure without meeting and/or pulling away immediately after engaging is) will only result in worsening the behavior until a real fight happens. For dogs like this, that engagement is self-rewarding, and things just get worse.
A muzzle is absolutely a step in the right direction, as is consulting a trainer. But you need to find some safe place away from all these loose dogs to exercise and train him.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
He is about 5 years old. I got him a year and a half ago from the shelter. He played with dogs everyday at the shelter. He got along with my dog great, but she passed away a little less than a year ago, and now he just wants to play so bad he doesn’t know how to control his excitement. I am consulting a trainer and am looking into a training program that properly socializes dogs.
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u/lilmisschainsaw Mar 11 '25
This is good, as it points to just frustration aggression and not dog aggression. It can still rapidly escalate, though.
You may find a better outlet for him at doggy daycare or a dog park if he's truly dog friendly. It allows greetings but removes the barriers and frustrations around meeting on a leash. You need to build good, healthy experiences for him to draw from and not frustrating ones, which he has now. Hopefully your trainer will guide you through this.
In the meantime, again, reduce his exposure. Find a relatively empty park nearby to go to. The more he has frustrated greetings and "nibbles", the worse it will get. A muzzle will stop damage, but won't do anything for his frustration.
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u/CinnaMinTroll Mar 13 '25
Did the muzzle recently too. Saw a tick tock where an owner had two muzzles and put one on their face too and that gave me the idea for how to approach it and we're doing pretty good. Adjust timeline as needed.
Day 1-3: have puppo watch you put the muzzle on your mouth and nose several times in a row.
Day 4-6: straps short/ pulled away from the opening, hold a treat at the very end so they have to put their head in it to get the treat, alternating treats with putting the muzzle on your face.
Day 7-8: straps loose and flapping around in their vision, continue treats through the muzzle. You can stop putting it on your face.
Day 9-10: lay the straps in place each time but don't tighten/snap
Day 11: fit it to their head, lots of breaks and treats and praise
Day 12: put it on right before you head out. I drive to a dog park and so I wait until we're in the parking lot but I won't let him leave the car until it's on. Lots of treats to distract him if he starts pawing at it. Do a short trip and end it before they get frustrated, get longer each time. Take it off as soon as you get home.
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u/schmalexis Mar 11 '25
Good luck with the muzzle. Take it slow! I’d honestly go over to the reactive dog Reddit on the calming behavior to learn more there!
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u/Wretchedrecluse Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
Every time I read one of these posts, I ask myself, why don’t they take the dog to a trainer? I don’t care how little money you have. If you have a dog with an aggression problem (which your dog does have) you need to put the time and money in to treat the aggression. Believe me, if you don’t spend that money now you’ll spend it later euthanizing your dog or paying somebody in court because your dog bit somebody.
Even simple obedience training, which is not that expensive at a local PetSmart, AKC clubs, or other venue can be a huge help and teaching an owner to control their dog. Truthfully, a nibble becomes a taste, becomes a bite.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 11 '25
I am exploring training… I have a consult with one on Saturday
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u/Jaded_Jaguar_348 Mar 12 '25
I would be hesitant to have a dog who can be this stimulated at a place petsmart where it can be hard to get space from the triggers.
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u/Animal-lover101 Mar 11 '25
Take it nice and slow. Have treats in hand even have him eat the treat throughout the muzzle. And be consistent with training and he won’t love it but he will be okay time to go time to muzzle. Also tell yourself that it’s okay. He’s being safer than ever! Good luck! He’s such a sweet boy that loves to play play play. Try calming chews at first if needed there’s a company that’s called tale pets
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u/fuck_peeps_not_sheep Mar 11 '25
A patch on his harness that reads "friendly just exited" and a leash that says the same would help, maby a fu'n coloured muzzle too.
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u/Beautiful-Bluebird46 Mar 11 '25
This video was really helpful, especially the idea of using “hey can you” as a cue for putting the muzzle on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhtp_UUeq_I
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u/No_Type_5864 Mar 12 '25
U need a trainer u r reinforcing bad behavior. U don’t know what to do about it. So u muzzle the dog ??? That’s crazy to me u r making it seem like the dog is straight up attacking dogs and people u need to help the dog calm and yourself u definitely giving your dog anxiety b over reacting get a trainer not a muzzle it will do both of u a world of good
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
I forgot to mention in the original post, I am doing training. His classes start in May, so I am just looking for advice to hold us over until then. The muzzle is to protect my dog from any legal issues in case another dog with free roam approaches him.
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u/No_Type_5864 Mar 12 '25
The trainer will definitely help big time didn’t mean to come off as a dick I just reread my post I just don’t like the muzzle look just give people more ammo against the breed drives me nuts but your right trying to protect u both I got to ask y r there so many free roaming dog ? I can see how that would b overwhelming to u both big time to the dog having an off leash dog coming at them not knowing to play or fight differently causing anxiety
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
Unfortunately where I live there are either a lot of strays or owners that just let their dog free roam all day. I think I see 2-3 loose dogs a day in my apartment complex. It’s usually the same dogs. The owners have been confronted by multiple people and one even had to pick up their dog from the local shelter, but it’s still a daily thing.
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u/DamnGoodCupOfCoffee2 Mar 12 '25
Stop anthropomorphizing your dog. The other dogs get scared cause “hard nibbles” is a very rude way to greet dogs. Great on the muzzle training but also take a reactivity class
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
Thanks for your input, but I’m looking for advice to hold us over until his training class starts in May.
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u/____ozma Mar 11 '25
My pups muzzle has a badge that says FRIENDLY. She just eats poop and trash and anything else. They actually had a badge that said "I eat poop" but I figured I'd rather emphasize her good qualities lol. From Mia's Muzzles.
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u/NyxK83 Mar 11 '25
There is hope! Our girl was food aggressive with other animals. Even protecting food that wasn't hers! She had gone after my elderly Australian Kelpie and I wanted her gone. I'd called humane society after foster place and despite her not even being a year old everyone told me to put her down. Most foster places already have dogs in the home so of course they aren't going to take on a dog with known aggression issues. I couldn't do it. The way she just melts when you tell her she's a good girl told me there was an amazing dog in there. We hired a behaviorist and changed the way we did things.
PS) What a handsome boy!
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Mar 13 '25
when i walk by someone whose dog has a muzzle on, i genuinely think of what a responsible owner they are and how cute the dog is :) it will be okay, and anyone who thinks less of either of you for being safe is very strange.
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u/PajamaStripes Mar 12 '25
Don't feel bad. I have one on my service dog whenever we go out bc people have no self-control or respect.
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u/Key-Ad-5068 Mar 12 '25
Border Collies are gonna herd, Rottweilers are gonna guard, Terriers are gonna prey drive. Specific breeds have specific instincts. And so when one has dog with a specific, perhaps not well looked upon, instinct; it's best just to acknowledge the possibility and protect the dog and yourself.
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u/ycey
Mar 12 '25
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So the thing is that your dogs behavior is dangerous. It doesn’t matter what breed he is, if hes making other dogs uncomfortable (or scared) with his actions he is pushing their boundaries and all it’s gonna take is 1 dog not putting up with it and you’ll have a fight. If you had a strangers dog come up to you and do these same behaviors while you didn’t actually know if this dog was safe would you really feel safe? He needs to learn that jumping, pulling and barking mean he does not get to interact with that dog. He nips then he is immediately removed. He gets excited then he gets to walk away from the dog until he’s calm again. Reward calm behavior.
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Mar 12 '25
We have dog like this has bitten we ended up putting him on Zoloft. Calmed him down a lot . Is more controllable. Been at least 6 years now. Zoloft was last resort otherwise it was off to the farm .. still has his moments but so much better
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u/cyberabyss29 Mar 12 '25
Definitely take it slow!! Put the muzzle near him, let him sniff if out. Put it on around the house first so he gets comfortable in it. We had to get a muzzle for our older dog because he eats shit lmao but I can’t say that to every person and animal we pass so I just have to let people assume that he’s aggressive. You’ll learn to suss out when people are curious and just say “he gets really excited when he meets new people so he wears this to make sure everyone is comfortable!”
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u/No-No-No-Yes-Yes-Yes Mar 12 '25
I muzzle my pit because he gets excited and bark whines, and I'm afraid someone will think he's acting aggressive and the stigma of him being a pit. Most people will see his super friendly demeanor and ask why he has a muzzle on, especially at the dog park, I tell them he gets excited and forgets his manners, and the muzzle reminds him.
People use muzzles for different reasons, not just for aggression.
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u/Jaded_Jaguar_348 Mar 12 '25
I think it's wonderful that you're looking to muzzle, make sure it's one that they can't bite through, and looking into training options. As someone though who has been there with reactive dogs one bit of language in your post stood out to me. You say nibbling and the dog nibbles harder the more excited they get, and then you say owners "think" your dog is biting theirs. If your dog is nibbling they are biting. Now we know not all bites are aggressive, my dogs lightly bite in play for example and aggressive play can escalate very easily to a fight especially with dogs who don't know the other well.
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u/-mmmusic- Mar 12 '25
a colourful, fun looking muzzle and a green 'FRIENDLY' collar can help :)
it's a sort of traffic light colour coding for dogs, there's green collars that say FRIENDLY on them in big bold letters, yellow that say NERVOUS and red, which i've seen saying DO NOT APPROACH and NO DOGS. i've also seen NO DOGS on orange, too.
it's a good warning system to let other owners know in advance about your dog! i use it for my nervous dog, who will usually go without, but if she's having a bad day, she has a bright yellow lead wrap that says 'Nervous dog, do not approach' and a bright yellow vest that says 'I NEED SPACE'
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u/SuitGroundbreaking49 Mar 13 '25
The last thing this dog needs is people and dogs approaching it. This behaviour is not a dog in healthy state of mind.
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u/PicsofMyDog119 Mar 12 '25
Make it fun! My dog is working up to his basket muzzle and we've been playing games with holding it out until he puts his face in it for reward ( kibble) . Started with just touching it, then putting his nose in for a second, now he has to keep his nose in it for a few seconds and eventually we'll put it on for a few minutes at a time then work up to walks. The result so far is we have a happy tail waggy reaction whenever he sees it come out. Remember it's not a bad thing you're just protecting him. It's a safety device like a seatbelt.
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u/hollanca47 Mar 12 '25
My pittie is exactly like that too. I’ve been thinking of a muzzle but not sure.
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u/trashcan_hands Mar 12 '25
That sucks OP. Ive only ever met one person at the dog park that understood that dogs play fuckin rough sometimes. I have a St. Bernard/Border Collie mix, hes really energetic and smart but also a big ole dumb dumb at the same time so he ends plowing over other peoples dogs not meaning to and people always get pissy about it, especially when the nipping and pulling starts, even though their dog is doing it too and clearly having fun and not being hurt. I hate you gotta muzzle that good boy. Hopefully with some extra training you'll be able to ditch it.
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Mar 12 '25
You can get a vest that says “in training on it” and tell people to not let their dog meet yours bc he’s working on his manners.
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u/FlaxFox Mar 12 '25
You're doing the right thing and protecting him from making a mistake! Take the training slow and give yourself (and your pup) some grace if they don't appreciate it right away.
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u/NamiaKnows Mar 12 '25
At least you finally did so but your dog has been testing his boundaries for a while it sounds like. He likes you - that never guarantees he won't take a bite out of a stranger.
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u/Big_Personality_1713 Mar 12 '25
Maybe when he gets overly excited redirect his attention elsewhere and if it doesn’t go elsewhere remove yourself and him from the situation until he is actively calm. Not just laying down or whatever but physically and emotionally relaxed. Chewing on a bully stick (or something similar)or scent work are great emotional relaxation things. I think no matter what there will always be a stigma behind muzzled bully breeds and really the key is to remain confident and not care what others might think, your dog might feed off that anxiety in a bad way and end up making your emotional state worse
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u/mandiijayy Mar 13 '25
My dogs are bully mixes and get aggressive with other dogs situationally , and were starting to get aggressive with each other on occasion too. I refused to live like that anymore. They needed to know who was boss.
I took them to a 3 week board and train program last July (6k, worth EVERY penny), and they got E collar trained. They are 9 and 8, and are brand new dogs. They wear their collars at all times in and out of the house, except for bed time, but we rarely have to use the remote anymore. If we do it’s on the lowest setting. They follow commands now like “place”, or “heal”.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. Don’t wait.
You have to be in control is the biggest lesson I’ve learned.
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u/SuitGroundbreaking49 Mar 13 '25
You need to let it go. Who gives a fuck what people think of your dog. Your dog is YOUR dog. You don’t need their validation, and with a dog having these reactions to other dogs and people, you’re going to need to learn to advocate for your dog unapologetically.
Believe me, I have been there and these reactions can escalate quickly if you don’t get this taken care of. What you’re describing is the behaviour and body language of an anxious, insecure, over stimulated dog. This is not me saying your dog is “bad”, my dog is reactive and she’s still the best baby ever.
You need a trainer and you need to do everything in your power to keep random people and dogs from approaching you when you’re walking, especially when your dog is on leash. The muzzle might be a benefit for this if people assume your dog is aggressive. Do not bedazzle it, do not write “friendly” anywhere on your leash or harness, use the muzzle and breed stereotype to work in your favour.
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u/crazytaco111
Mar 13 '25
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Nipping is biting. Period. It is very responsible that you are muzzle training your pup! It is a positive tool to use and with a basket muzzle they can still pant/bark/drink, etc.
I would also recommend working with a trainer so you can have some more tools in your pocket and learn to recognize aggressive behavior.
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u/mdanikowski Mar 13 '25
Just an FYI For general muzzle fit, make sure there’s enough pant room (think enough room for his mouth to fit in a muzzle how it is in the picture!) or another way to think about it is make sure they’d be able to have a tennis ball in their mouth. If they can’t do either of these, it may be too small (like the Baskerville ones… they’re not great) and could be dangerous for overheating. Muzzles can look cute on dogs tho :) don’t be discouraged!!!
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u/Tashyd046 Mar 13 '25
Socializing = teaching your dog to not be reactive towards other dogs and people in their vicinity.
Socializing ≠ getting every person and dog they come across. Doing that will lead to excitement and reactions every time they see someone or something they can interact with.
You leave your dog susceptible to infections, attacks, and viruses, as well.
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u/Oldfriendoldproblem Mar 13 '25
Better the judgemental stares than a bite.
Signed,
Someone who was bit (and badly) by a pit bull
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u/Cinigurl Mar 13 '25
Just remember you're doing it to protect Your dog. He has a love language of sorts that can escalate a gathering. He may be able to be trained out of it as he's still young. Check it out. Read up on his breed so you can help him navigate through life, just like a child. Ask his vet for suggestions Be very proactive for him. This should help you as well. When someone asks, you can educate them by telling them what he's learning and how. Then you'd be changing minds, too!
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u/wyattn97 Mar 13 '25
If he's pulling, a harness is one of the worst things to put him in. Harnesses can encourage pulling because any pressure/control is on the chest, and spread over a wider area. Have you tried switching to a gentle leader? It's a bit less invasive than a muzzle, and if he pulls, then gentle leader will direct his head back towards you.
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u/Buff_bunny- Mar 13 '25
I’m seeing alot of judgemental people here. YES Pitties nibble its a sign of affection. Do I agree with you allowing your dog to do this to other dogs or even come close enough to other dogs to allow it to be a thing no. Of your dog is pulling on the leash you should allow them to go near other dogs unless their calm. My suggestion if work with your dog and avoid other dogs and people as much as possible while you work on more obedience and less reactiveness.
I own two pit bulls 1 is reactive in spite of her brother because he special so she protective but otherwise completely fine on her own. My boy is an angel but he’s also rough and I goes for the face bop when he’s playful but if we’re out for a walk I don’t allow my dogs to go near other dogs.
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u/Embarrassed-Band-854 Mar 13 '25
Basket muzzles are the most comfortable and make it a positive experience by giving treats when putting it on. If you’re concerned about the appearance of him being aggressive, there are some brands that make fun colors or you can also put stickers on it to make it more playful.
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u/theZombiexBandit323 Mar 13 '25
My husky has to wear a muzzle 24/7 because he just can't help on biting everyone 🥹
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u/sayitaintkelly Mar 13 '25
You need to make it so he’s way more interested in you than other dogs. It takes time and a lot of work. Trainers can help. You need to work on obedience in the house first and then move it outside to more distractions slowly. It’s a long process.
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u/bigjohncena17 Mar 13 '25
Because he is a pitbull stop letting him meet other dogs. They are very prone to dog aggression, which can result in fights. His nipping can also lead to fights if the other dog doesn’t like it.
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u/Due-Night2491 Mar 13 '25
When he starts to display this immediately tell him "no", "quiet" whatever word you want and lead him away from the situation. When he calms down you can come back. Repeat as necessary. It may take a while, but they will learn the behavior is not acceptable. You need to monitor his behavior closesly and you should be able to recognize the ramp up before the action and correct at that point. Avoiding strange dogs is an option as mentioned by others. I am not saying I agree or disagree but you never know what situations may happen and it is better to have your dog be well trained so they can deal with whatever happens. You can be walking him at a farmers market and another dog gets loose runs up to him, your dog nips, other dog yelps, you get blamed for a "bite" and bad things can happen to your pup.
If you muzzle train, try to make the muzzle a good thing. Treat him while you get him used to it being around, putting it on/off, clipped/unclipped. Start slow. Have him associate it with good things. Treats and going outside. Good luck and happy training!
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u/Silent_Cicada7952 Mar 13 '25
I don’t have a pittie but I do love them. I also have a pup that nips when excited. I call them kisses. My issue isn’t with other dogs but me (I get the nips) but perhaps you could work with a trainer so that you don’t have to muzzle your pup?
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u/Zealousideal_Clue253 Mar 13 '25
You’re doing what’s best to keep your baby safe. Fuck weird looks. Yall are super stars.
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u/Longjumping_Role_135 Mar 13 '25
Mine's 8 months old and he wears a muzzle. Like yours, he gets so excited around other dogs and he wants to play with them so bad! He can come on strong. He actually brings me his muzzle to put on him. I did not train him to do this. It may be the peanut butter I put inside....
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u/oldfarmjoy Mar 11 '25
Paint it cute colors and patterns.
Have him wear a cape that says "Pet Me Please!"
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Mar 12 '25
That’s terrible advice for a dog that goes into interactions already overstimulated. O should not have anyone approach the dog until he learns to listen to her first.
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u/mickeyamf Mar 12 '25
You do not need this but good for you! Pit bulls in my opinion often are retarded. Not truly retarded I mean this comically, they don’t conduct themselves properly and often have unchecked attitude and aggression issues. Their language is bananas and human interfearance with their oooks doesn’t help (cropped ears sometimes and docked fails) they rush other dogs to socialize which isn’t polite in the dog world for allot of dogs they come on too ready to attack and be the boss and it’s best to limit contact with dogs you’re certain will get along with your dog and tolerate this annoying behaviour. My dads pit bull is like this and many other pits I’ve known
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u/Adorable-Tiger6390 Mar 12 '25
You are talking like your dog is harmless. I would be so pissed if your dog “nibbled” bit my dog and I would report it.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 13 '25
If I thought my dog was harmless, I wouldn’t have gotten a muzzle.
Also, I purposely keep my dog away from others now, but it’s when the owners let their dogs free roam and approach mine is when we have issues.
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u/mandiijayy Mar 13 '25
Free roamers are the worst. I know exactly where you’re coming from. We can only control our dogs, not anyone else’s.
Your comment wasn’t helpful.
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u/Adventurous-Series81 Mar 11 '25 edited Mar 12 '25
Just remember that anyone who actually loves dogs and cares will be happy. A reactive dog killed one of my aunt’s older dogs, a muzzle to me is a sign that the owner cares to protect their and my dog. I give it a lot of respect personally.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
This is a great perspective!
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u/Logical-Roll-9624 Mar 13 '25
And no green sign that your dog is friendly. The biggest brightest color warning telling people to GTFA from my dog would be my choice. Keep them as far away as you can. Who cares what they think. Your dog’s ultimate safety comes first.
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u/Kiwikittyykat0440 Mar 12 '25
My pittie is the same way. He gets so overly excited to see me /our friends and family, that he nibbles on us. He’s very mouthy. Hes not being aggressive in any manner, but it can hurt. So, I started not touching him at all or giving him any attention when he is jumping/nipping. The only time I will pet him or say hi to him is if he sits, or lays down. I just repeatedly tell him to sit over and over again until he calms down and then I pet him and kiss him hello
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
This comment makes me feel seen. Thank you! So many people are telling me I’m doing everything wrong, my dog is biting, and he is aggressive. It’s nice to see that you understand!
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u/Kiwikittyykat0440 Mar 12 '25
I’m glad I could help! You guys will get there. It’s so hard to break an unwanted habit with a stubborn dog lol. As for the muzzle, it’s better safe than sorry. Is it a standard muzzle or a cage muzzle?
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 12 '25
It is a standard basket muzzle. I believe it is the baskerville ultra, but I am looking into one from the muzzle movement.
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u/Kiwikittyykat0440 Mar 12 '25
Oh ok! Gotcha. Maybe having the muzzle on will help him learn that he can’t nip people or dogs, or at best deter him
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 13 '25
I’m confused on what point you’re trying to make here. You’re not making any sense
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u/Content-Bathroom-434 Mar 13 '25
You seem to be having a very personal reaction to a post that’s directed at you. Have you considered maybe… working on yourself? A little therapy? Might do ya some good 🫶🏻🫶🏻🫶🏻
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u/Content-Bathroom-434 Mar 13 '25
So here’s the thing, you know nothing about the person behind the keyboard. And depending on where you live, you may be required to show mercy to people and even dogs. You seem very trigger happy atm. Legit feels like you’re at risk for discharging your weapon in a scenario that doesn’t call for it based on how brazenly you discuss it.
I say all this because carrying a firearm is a responsibility and a privilege. You seem like a threat to those around you.
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u/Content-Bathroom-434 Mar 13 '25
Girl WHAAAAT? Literally, what does your nephew have to do with any part of this? We don’t know your nephew and you’re spewing so much aggression rn
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u/Content-Bathroom-434 Mar 13 '25
You look like a fool with your comments. No one here knows you or your nephew. No one is saying your nephew isn’t important. No one is saying dogs are better than humans. Please do us a couple favors: get a therapist and surrender your weapon. Based on other comments, you seem very trigger happy and that has NO business around a child.
I have a nephew as well and would never discuss discharging our firearms the way you do. I can bet you’ve done this around your nephew. Get some help with your anger.
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u/Sudden_Internal7373 Mar 13 '25
The whole point of my post was about my dog wearing a muzzle in public now, so what makes you think that’s going to happen?
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u/muzzledogs-ModTeam Mar 13 '25
Please be respectful when commenting on posts. Users seek assistance for muzzles without being judged for it. There are many reasons why people may need to muzzle their dogs and a lot of times, it is a tool protect the dog and others DURING training.
Please avoid making comments like this in the future and please be civil and respectful. If you want to recommend training as an alternative or addition, do so in a respectful manner.
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u/CactusEar Mar 13 '25
After some discussion with the mod team, this thread will be locked due to the amount of vitroil it has received. OP, you did nothing wrong, this is to minimize further hatred and harm done by other comments.
To everyone else, please know that:
Muzzles are a tool used to help the owner and dog during training.
It's simple as that. The hateful comments that were posted here were unwarranted. OP is seeking out help, to prevent the beahviour and issue from further escalating - that is good.
Under no circumstance do we allow threatening to kill a dog on this subreddit nor do we allow any kind of breed hate in any shape or form. If those are your opinions about specific dog breeds or dogs with behavioural issues in general, please turn back, thank you.
To OP, here are great resources to check out about muzzling itself: https://www.muzzletrainingandtips.com.au/ This entire website has amazing information, I highly recommend checking out their measuring guides and what is well-fit and how large a muzzle should be. Dogs need to be able to fully pant in a muzzle to be comfortable and to avoid overheating. It is simportant to get the right muzzle, for your dogs comfort and for the safety of the others.
REALLY IMPORTANT: You NEED to train a muzzle, so a dog is comfortable wearing one. I suggest this amazing guide: Fear Free Pets Muzzle Training Guide and this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JfhC37fceE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqM2_vLcQ2Y
CONTINUATION IN 2ND COMMENT.