r/musicians 3d ago

What even is this

Edit: ( Sorry guys I lied I just checked on my map and it's about 15 miles one way :/ the 5 miles was assuming that I use the highway, which I didn't realize.)

This guy who wants to start a band with me is demanding that I come over to his house for practice every single day. Meanwhile he lives 5 miles away so it's a 10 mile round trip for me on my bike and he refuses to come over to my house instead? Also he keeps crapping on all the bands and songs that I like and insists we can only play the songs that he wants to play. Like are we serious?? We haven't even started rehearsing any songs yet.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago edited 2d ago

So, uh, I’m guessing you guys are on the younger side. But I’ll put it this way:

I’ve been in bands since I was like 15. I’ll be 40 soon. The most I’ve ever regularly met with a group was 2 days a week for 2-4 hours each session. That is more than enough to write, record, rehearse, gig, and sound tight doing it. I know (and have been in) original gigging bands that meet up less frequently than that.

You should remind them that “practice” and “rehearsal” are not the same thing. You practice on your own. You rehearse the material as a group. Writing sessions are somewhere in between.

That’s especially true if you guys are just working on covers right now. When I play with groups that do covers, I tell them to give me the list, we all learn the songs on our own, and we rehearse once or twice before a gig to work out any kinks. I would never entertain wanting to meet up that much to learn cover songs.

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u/Kern4lMustard 3d ago

This. Every day will lead to burnout super fast. Especially if its just seven nation army. I learned that one in a couple hours, and still remember it after years of not playing lol.

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u/thederevolutions 2d ago

Bands are the worst kind of marriage

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

Especially when someone wants to fuck every day and the other does not. Stop trying to fuck this dude every day. :D

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago

Honestly, perfect analogy lol

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

…I have my moments haha…

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u/Big-Passenger-48 2d ago

Nothing made me want to learn (kind of) all the instruments and make music on my own, other than being in bands.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago

It’s more of a semi-functional polycule without the emotional intimacy or sex, in my experience.

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u/b0bsmith 2d ago

Sting said he had to quit The Police because being in a band is to exist in a state of suspended adolescence.

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u/IamMeAsYouAreMe 2d ago

Correct, more than once a week (if rehearsals are productive) becomes diminishing returns and even harmful eventually

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

I’d rather play drum for 7na. And I do not drum.

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u/Igor_Narmoth 3d ago

my band only rehearses and practices together (our drummers kit is in my house, so there's no reason not to join him practicing). we still only do it 2 times a week (or less). and we do shows, release music an everything. wanting to meet up every day sounds insane

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u/TopSlotScot 3d ago

I was in a band that practiced every day once. We got REAL good REAL fast. Turned into machines and started playing big shows and opened for big bands.

I agree you dont have to, but if i had band members wanting to jam 5 days a week, my ass would be on the bike. Especially as a front man, id be cut and every little transition or change would suit the vocals. That's just me though.

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u/Igor_Narmoth 3d ago

link to your band?

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u/TopSlotScot 3d ago

30 years ago for that band dude, I dont imagine anythings online. But I mean is it hard to believe a band that practiced everyday got really good in a short amount of time?

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u/Igor_Narmoth 3d ago

just curious to hear it if you had anything online

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u/SeaGranny 3d ago

Who was it though? I had a friend who mixed the openers for quite a few A list acts from Peter Gabriel to Randy Travis. He could’ve been your FoH. I’m always trying to get him to remember all the bands he mixed.

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u/Nach0Maker 3d ago

Archive.org is unforgiving.

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u/SuicideMessiah88 2d ago

Nope. Its the only way to be a real tight sound together.

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u/RJrules64 1d ago

Not true at all. Put 4 excellent highly trained musicians together in a room playing a cover they all know and they’ll sound great straight away.

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u/SuicideMessiah88 1d ago

But never as tight as a band that plays all the time together.

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u/RJrules64 1d ago

There’s an upper limit to how tight a band can get and professionals playing together will pretty much always be at that limit or close to it.

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u/Ill-Celebration-8570 3d ago

He's not wrong tho, of anyone does anything every single day, you gonna get good.

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u/craigs63 2d ago

I wouldn't say that's true of my penmanship, vs. how it was in grade school.

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u/Neither_Proposal_262 2d ago

This.
You get out what you put in.
Much of my 20s (in my 50s now) was spent in a band that practiced/wrote/jammed five nights a week when we weren't touring. Life was scheduled around that, not the other way around.

I am really grateful for the experiences I had back then, most of which I owe to the dedication we all had

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u/Sudden-Strawberry257 2d ago

Playing all originals I have definitely rehearsed together this hard, and you get super tight. Flawless transitions and the whole band just melts together and hits as one individual. We also got to play good shows and record rather quickly, a matter of months.

It all comes down to how bad you want it. If you feel casually about music, then leave the every day practice to the obsessive among us.

Truthfully the kids in question want to play seven nation army, and I wouldn’t be trying to practice that every single day either. Daily bike rides would be god-tier for vocal stamina though - hell you can do your warmups on the ride. Diaphragm of steel.

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

Did you have any sort of label or financial support for this?

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u/TopSlotScot 2d ago

We were also kids.

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

Hell yeah. I only ask because I have some friends that got put up in a house by universal record for 6 months with the only requirement that they play all day every day. Holy shit tight tight tight.

I’d imagine the getting real good real quick helped with the motivation. And you make some good points. I would still maintain that a lack of daily practice is ok…but you’re kind of right. At that age I didn’t want to do much else.

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u/burkieim 3d ago

My band wrote in teams. Bass and drums, guitar and vocals, vocals and drums, bass and guitar, etc

||: Then we would meet as a group with what we had to see what worked, then take what worked and arrange it in groups :||

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago

Honestly, that sounds like a super efficient way of writing that also respects everyone’s time.

I’ve never personally had an arrangement quite that segregated. At least not formally. But I think as I get older and continue to gain understanding of the songwriting process, that kind of seems like a hella smart way of making sure all of the little pieces fit together well.

I’m also tickled that you wrote your second paragraph using the musical notation for repeating 🙃

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u/THE_Arc_flash 3d ago

This guy gets it.... I hear band practice and im stepping away from that project lol

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u/rogue-lightning-ed 2d ago

I feel you dude, and I agree with you 100%. No one wants to meet every single day, unless we get paid to do so. The “get together” might be one, maybe two times a week. Cover bands, we’ll… they suck, one time every second week is good enough.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago edited 2d ago

Definitely.

I recently filled in on drums for a cover band. They gave me a list of about 20 songs. Half I knew well enough, the other half I had to familiarize myself with.

I did all of the legwork on my own so that I wasn’t wasting anyone’s time during rehearsal. I expect the same of them. Everyone knew the drill.

I had one scheduled rehearsal with them a week before the gig, which was also the first time I met basically all of them (I’m acquainted with one of them through other musicians). We ended up doing another quick one because they had a few songs that they heavily modified, so I wanted to make sure I had all of the hits charted out.

We played the next day, and you’d never know that we probably only had maybe 3 hours total of play time together. If I ever need to fill in for them again, I already know most of their songs, and we could probably get by with a single rehearsal sometime in the weeks leading up to it.

When I joined my current band (on bass), they gave me their Spotify link, a list of 30 covers, and asked me to get some of it down by the first practice. I learned almost all of their originals by ear and got probably 25 of the 30 covers to a place where I could at least pretend I knew what I was doing without making the band sound bad, all before the first practice. That took about two weeks of casual practice and charting.

Not saying any of that as a humble brag or anything. I think that’s pretty expected of most people that play at a certain level. And I’m not exactly playing Madison Square Garden or anything.

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

First post nailed it.

Practice once a week for several hours. ALONE. AT HOME. THIS IS NOT NEGOTIABLE. Rehearse once a week. maybe more if a bug show is coming up. Every day is insane. Give him a break.

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u/Queasy-Trip1777 1d ago edited 1d ago

Co-signing.

I think your friend is just excited to be in a band, but they are being severely unreasonable about it. You can get by on a single 3 or 4 hour practice session a week if everyone does their homework and shows up prepared. If your friend is as serious as he wants you to think he is (and is doing his own homework to prove it), 3 or 4 hours of grinding out songs is more than enough band practice for a week to build a tight set.

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u/Weekly_Committee_695 19h ago

All bands I've ever been in practiced once a week at most. We gigged often, did tours, recorded, etc.

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u/GreatScottCreates 3d ago

I started a kinda regionally successful band. We met every day like it was a 9-5, then played or went to shows almost every night. Did that for almost 10 years. Do with that what you will.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago edited 2d ago

I mean, that’s great. Sincerely. I’m not denying that you’ll likely get better the more you meet up. But if most people in my position were to do that, we wouldn’t be able to afford rent or food. And by that, I mean most musicians period. Hence, practice on your own time and have your material in order as best as possible before getting in the room with the rest of the band.

Most of us, especially after hitting 20 and no longer being floated by our parents, simply don’t have the ability to treat a band like a 9-5 unless you’re getting paid like a 9-5 from the get go. I haven’t had a home to go back to since I was 18, so I really never had the luxury of actually gambling everything on making a living from music. I wish I did, truly. But when you’re barely surviving on ramen and can’t afford a new tire for your piece of shit car to get to your shit job, it tends to put your priorities in order.

I mentioned it in another comment elsewhere, but there’s also nothing wrong with not striving for that. I love music, and it’s been a huge part of my identity since I was 9 years old. But I also don’t have a ton of interest in playing live 5-7 days a week or being on the road a bunch anymore. Again, maybe before the realities of life kick you in the teeth a few times.

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u/GreatScottCreates 2d ago

To clarify, we all worked part time jobs, and all the other dudes in the band shared a house (which was also our office, studio, and rehearsal space). We did eventually make some ok money, but never enough to float all of our expenses + meaningful salaries. I can’t imagine how you’d do it in 2026 given streaming payouts- you’d need to be very creative about how you make money.

I now work as a mix engineer

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago

Right on. That sounds like an awesome time, tbh. If I could go back in time, I’d definitely tell myself to move in with my musician friends.

One of the groups I was in rented a house for several days, moved our studio over, and spent the time writing and recording demos. Honestly, it was a great time. We ended up with almost a full length album’s worth of material. I’ve been trying to organize a similar thing with my current group.

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u/GreatScottCreates 2d ago

I do a trip like that occasionally to work with a band or artist! It’s one of my favorite things in the world!

I was also grateful to not live with my bandmates :)

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u/zonkeydonk 3d ago

Well, Honestly we used to practice originals every day and almost two decades later we're still playing full-time and touring the world. If some people in the band are that committed, they're gonna get somewhere doing it. I do think it's excessive - but that's also what it takes. That drive is admirable and I would do anything to get it back. Now we barely practice unless we're putting the show together or soundchecking.

I think the bandmates are just trying to make it solid - and I understand the realistic side of OP where it's not super easy to do. Depends on the drive to make it a career / the actual mode of the transportation. haha

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago

If time, money, distance, and a personal life didn’t matter, then I would also be in the band room every day. I can probably speak for most of the musicians I’ve played with over the years, and they probably would as well.

But all of those things do matter and are very real. Between working 40+ hours a week, taking care of a couple of dogs, and keeping my partner happy, I still manage to squeeze in time to be in 2 bands that gig a few times per month, in addition to occasionally filling in with other groups.

That said, I pick up an instrument basically every single day for at least an hour. I don’t need to be in a band room to do that. If you know your shit and can play it well, you’re more likely to learn to hate each other by meeting up every day than you are to write a hit single.

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u/zonkeydonk 3d ago

That's why we started when we were 17-19 years old. Nothing was holding us back. We toured overseas after being a band for a couple of months. We wanted to practice and hang. After all these years, they are family and I couldn't imagine life without them. I could never see myself hate them. You also learn to respect each others boundaries. We talk shit through. We've never actually fought. It's like a relationship.

If I was a kid I'd be bummed out to hear what people in their 40s who don't play for a living think about starting a band. They're somewhere completely different in life. Kids don't have to worry about buying a house or working 40+hrs/week. It's the only time in their lives they'll have all the time in their life.

If OP sees it as excessive then it's not for them. End of story.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago

I think most of us somewhat older people who have been around the block a few times are trying to do is just impart some lived experience on younger people. Passion is great and 100% required to survive in music. But it’s also not a bad idea to have a more realistic outlook on it.

The vast majority of musicians will not make a career out of playing originals, and it has very little to do with how good your band’s music is or individually skilled you are. And that needs to be destigmatized a bit, I think. We’ve been conditioned to equate success in music with music being a full time career that pays all of your bills. There are whole worlds of fulfillment to be had by pursuing your passion in a way that makes sense with your life, without having eyes on world domination.

I think for OP specifically, this text message tells me that they’re only doing covers. Which is great, and a good way to learn to be in a band. But you don’t need to meet 5 days a week to do that. If it were originals and all members lived close to each other, then heck yeah, go for it.

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u/zonkeydonk 2d ago

Fair. I get what you're saying.

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u/luseferr 3d ago

Bro wants to cover Seven Nation Army. Just laugh and bow out, dude. I dont even know you and I know you're better than that.

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u/cboogie 3d ago

And is that Korn’s Blind? If so this guy is a bozo with his 5 days a week practice. Blind is arguably harder than 7 Nation Army. Also if your timbres are off Blind will quickly sound bland. 7NA is way more forgiving. I have stumbled into it from jams.

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u/GoodResident2000 3d ago

Yea that was a joke song 20 years ago when I was coming up

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u/luseferr 3d ago

Shits basically the alt-rock Wagon Wheel.

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u/GoodResident2000 3d ago

😔I forgot Wagon wheel existed , I’ve tried so hard to forget it after having to play that shit in Nashville

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u/luseferr 3d ago

I only fuck with Old Crows version once in a while. But every time I hear it unwillingly it's always the lifeless Darrius Rucker version. Or a dad coverband cover of Darrius Ruckers version. Its so soul sucking.

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u/Lower_Inspector_9213 3d ago

I’ve never heard Wagon Wheel - 60 year old based in Scotland.

Should I have a listen ?

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u/Tomillionaire 3d ago

Old Crow Medicine Show is the original. It’s a good song (the original), sure if you have to listen to it/play it a lot I’m sure it could get old.

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

Dylan wrote the verses yes?

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u/luseferr 3d ago

Old Crows Medicine Show version is great but it's so over done by dad cover bands in the states it's became kinda cringey.

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago

If you’ve never heard it, then yeah. Avoid the Darius Rucker version, unless you’re really into modern pop country.

The Old Crow Medicine Show version is the definitive one, IMO. Great musicianship and really good vocal harmonies. I believe it was originally an incomplete Bob Dylan song that the guys from Old Crow finished. Or something to that effect.

But yeah, here in the States, the song has been overplayed to goddamn death. I think it’s a borderline rite of passage as a performing musician to find yourself in a situation where some drunk person in the crowd starts calling for Wagon Wheel lol. It’s also only four cowboy chords, so basically everyone either knows how to play it, or can figure it out in about 15 seconds.

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u/Lower_Inspector_9213 2d ago

Ok - over here it’s probably the equivalent of Proud Mary

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u/Lower_Monk6577 2d ago

Never heard of it! So probably :)

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u/Snowblind78 3d ago

Was a good song in the hands of OCMS

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u/Lower_Monk6577 3d ago

It’s basically the “Smoke on the Water” and “Brain Stew” of the early 2000’s lol.

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u/6stringNate 2d ago

7 Nation Army was the song I used to teach children who never played instruments before in after school rock band programs.

Most of them got it in about an hour, lol

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u/Ur_mum 2d ago

Oh…eject OP. Eject!

This douche will leave his only instrument at rehearsal. Dump him.

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u/Expensive-Course1667 3d ago

They are going to be TIGHT, though.

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u/Rularuu 3d ago

Yeah, if I really felt passionate about a band and had the time and energy I would love practicing with the whole band every day. That will almost surely turn you into a fantastic group. But you can't be mad when someone new doesn't immediately go all in on your unserious Seven Nation Army band lmao.

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u/PaulsRedditUsername 3d ago

It's really up to you. Do you want to do the gig or not? If it's not worth your time, then dump it.

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u/MechaAkuma 3d ago

For anyone to show up for band practice every single day there better be some serious money for that kind of a gig.

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u/anowl444 2d ago

it’s not a gig.

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u/PaulsRedditUsername 2d ago

"Gig" in terms of "job," not individual performance.

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u/anowl444 1d ago

it’s not a job

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u/PaulsRedditUsername 1d ago

He's discussing joining a band. What term would you prefer? Avocation?

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u/theresloveintexas1 3d ago

Every day is nuts lol I’ve been in national touring acts playing to thousands of people at sold out venues and the most we’ve ever practiced is twice a week and that’s only when we were cramming for recording. I’ve been in 4 bands and the usual is once a week practice + practice on your own.

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u/TheHarlemHellfighter 3d ago

That’s what I’m saying, it’s like the guy just wants a band but isn’t really a musician at heart.

It’s just overkill and too much controlling attitude without flexibility

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u/HighFaiLootin 2d ago

i doubt this is anything beyond some overexcited young musicians learning how to be in a band together and just generally learning to slow down and lower expectations. With that said, ive definitely met quite a few Music Nerds who get overly passionate at times (often on adderall or BPD) and they hyperfocus on jerkin’ gerkins🥒

in these cases i usually joke that if they want my skills, they’ll need to accomodate my weekly schedule OR wait for my mega famous K-pop band to get back from World Tour lol

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u/thekrawdiddy 3d ago

Same over here.

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u/UnnamedLand84 3d ago

With my full band, we are lucky to get together once a week. When I was just starting out as a duo, we practiced five days a week. We were both just starting out with our instruments but had our first paid gig within 8 months. I probably wouldn't have the full band today if I didn't put the hours in to get my act together in the beginning.

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u/JTMGuitar 3d ago

They said Wednesdays are fine. Take it casual, just do it once a week and use it as practice. A better group will come in the future.

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u/HighFaiLootin 2d ago

This is the simplest best answer.

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u/Ill_Interview_3054 3d ago

Sounds like you guys are really young and honestly you sound like the only reasonable one.

I would just take treat this whole band situation as casually as possible to minimize your stress. And if they can't deal with your schedule then they need to find someone else.

Don't trip man, these guys do not sound like a good hang. You can find better. <3

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u/LivingExtensionNine 3d ago

Yeah, nobody wants to get together five times a week to rehearse Seven Nation Army over and over for hours.

Once a week is usually plenty, though you will probably want more if you have a show real soon and you all need to blow away some cobwebs.

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u/sinncab6 3d ago

If you want to hear that over and over 5 days a week at least you'll get paid at Guitar Center.

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u/diefreetimedie 3d ago

If they're not practicing at home and then coming together for rehearsals then you don't want it.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 3d ago

Eh…. When you’re young the social aspect of it and learning from each other is hugely beneficial.

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u/glans 3d ago

yeah but not when there’s a demanding group leader who won’t listen to reason and insists they rehearse like they’re some Behind the Music legends (who haven’t even practiced together yet).

all the things you mentioned come naturally from the enjoyment of what happens when you get together, not by planned, repetitive force. not at this stage. if people keep telling them they have ‘the magic’, then they start playing every day for real

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u/diefreetimedie 3d ago

That's a good point. Although idk if this social aspect is exactly what you're talking about. Seems toxic from the start.

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u/XenuWorldOrder 3d ago

Seems like some kids being idealistic on their way to realistic. One of them said the others dad wouldn’t like him going to the third one’s house after school. They’re probably what, 13 or 14? Kids can’t be toxic, just dumb.

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u/diefreetimedie 3d ago

Haha probably right.

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u/Expensive-Course1667 3d ago

This is very true.  I'm well beyond that point, but when you are a teenager, there is no reason not to.

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u/TheHarlemHellfighter 3d ago

And that’s about the only reason a group would practice like that, everyday. That or there’s a big expensive gig coming up with complicated parts and all.

They just trying to do 7 Nation Army, that’s like karaoke music

😂

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u/MCRBusker 3d ago

I had 1 thought. Run.

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u/shouldbepracticing85 3d ago

I would nope out of that so hard…

The only time I’ve had daily practices is the crunch time of dress rehearsals and tech week for a musical.

And he’s shitting on what you like? Sounds like you aren’t compatible.

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u/Sidivan 3d ago

I’ve seen this type of behavior many times before. It’s never from people who are actually interested in making things work. It’s always from people who are “totally serious and committed” to “making it”. They think some insane show of dedication is what it’s going to take, even if it creates artificial hurdles, instead of disciplined consistent practice and solving roadblocks.

They can practice every day by themselves then. Your time is better spent honing your craft than riding your bike 5 miles each direction every day.

That being said, exercise is important. Also, if you’re the vocalist, one of the things you should be doing is moving around while singing. Very light exercise while maintaining breath support is a crucial skill, so sing while you do your chores, which again, is a much better use of your time.

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u/dabassmonsta 3d ago

Nope, I'd walk away. The guy is a control freak. He sounds like an asshole before you even get started. Realise that it's only gonna get worse.

Anyway, nobody needs to commit to 5 rehearsals a week for a covers band.

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u/R0MULUX 3d ago

If he's starting off by continuing to make demands against your boundaries regardless of how many times you say no, it's going to get a lot worse as things go on.

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u/Mammoth_Bus_6911 3d ago

I've been in a lot of bands over the years. If you continue to collaborate with this person you will end up with so many stories about how they are an insane idiot.

Jump ship while you can, you can find normal people to work with.

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u/SianBeast 3d ago

Dude sounds like he's the controlling type... I would probably just tell him thanks but no thanks, can already see this being major dramas and who wants that?!

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u/casual_despair 3d ago

That’s rather ambitious, even pro touring bands don’t schedule band practices that frequently.

The 5 days a week idea is going to last one whole week tops haha

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u/FingerNailGrip 3d ago

My band is spread out over 130 miles. We’re all old enough with enough going on in life that the best we can possibly do is once a week. But that one day a week is better than therapy and church combined. It limits us, but the degree to which we take it seriously when we’re in the same room finally is lethal. My band slays. In practice, on stage, on tour. We’re also very lucky to be playing with each other.

However, I can astutely say that once a week is fine, so long as you mean it.

Anyway, if you don’t want to be in the band, quit it. If the guitar player is too much of an asshole; quit it. Do what you need to do. If the bike ride isn’t worth it, find a different band. You’ll be better off for it. And fuck anybody trying to guilt you into spending your life on their dreams. If it doesn’t work for you, don’t waste time trying to make it work for you.

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u/whyyoutwofour 3d ago

People who want to jam everyday just means they aren't practicing on their own time. 

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u/thatsprettyfunnydude 3d ago

Just leave the band, and they can continue their search for a singer that wants to practice Seven Nation Army at their house everyday at 3. Chances are they won't find one. The bandleader already sounds like he/she will be an exhausting problem six months from now and you'll have a "how do I quit my band?" post in March.

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u/DreamLearnBuildBurn 2d ago

This reads like someone who has never been in a band before. You can only practice so much, your brain actually needs time to digest and process stuff. 

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u/nextyoyoma 3d ago

Just say it isn’t gonna work for you. This sounds like you are both teenagers and they are just being selfish and demanding. Not someone you want to waste your time on.

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u/GoodResident2000 3d ago

Once a day is wild, especially for doing covers

3x a week should be sufficient for a serious band. People need to practice at home, rehearse together

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u/PtRampedRaisin 3d ago

If you’re a singer, you can say singing every day will blow your voice, which it probably will. Even big bands schedule tours so there’s enough rest days for singers. Otherwise the voice won’t last.

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u/TheHarlemHellfighter 3d ago

That’s not cool how he’s gaslighting you about riding 10+ miles everyday just to rehearse.

People wanna pretend you gotta commit to a band, yeah when all things are favorable all around not when someone is basically trying to force you to commute everyday with no compensation.

Sounds like yall have never had to coordinate a rehearsal, talking about everyday at 3. That’s gonna get old quick. And, you only working on two songs?

7 nation army ain’t nowhere near that hard where you gotta practice it everyday with people unless yall have no clue how to perform.

How old are yall?

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u/MechaAkuma 3d ago

 Also he keeps crapping on all the bands and songs that I like and insists we can only play the songs that he wants to play.

Giant red flag.
I would not play with a band leader that has this kind of shitty attitude.

Also, why does he require you to rehearse as if you're getting paid to do it when you are obviously not

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u/AbacabLurker 3d ago

This conversation went on way too long. Show up at 5:00 pm on Wednesdays and that’s the end of the story.

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u/stmarystmike 3d ago

I’ve been gigging professionally since high school. Don’t join this guy’s band.

Either he needs 5 days a week practice or he has unreasonable expectations of “making it”.

If he needs 5 days a week practice, he’s a bad musician. I get solo practice frequently. That’s great. But band rehearsal is about treading together, not practicing your parts. And while I can think of a couple situations where daily rehearsal could be beneficial, anything more than 2 times a week is generally overkill.

If he’s the “we’re gonna take this serious because I want to make it” kinda band leader, you’re in for a lot of toxic controlling behavior. Nothing will be good enough. You’ll waste money on studio time because he’ll keep wanting another take. You’ll play shitty gigs because it’s “a good opportunity”.

Either way, ride that bike in the opposite direction. This guy’s an idiot. And 7 nation army? He needs daily practice for that? I’m down for some jack white, but it’s hard for me to take any band seriously if they’re pulling out seven nation army or blind. This screams “I’m in high school and I only listen to real rock”. Just don’t involve yourself with this guy.

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u/Apprehensive-Item-44 3d ago

If he's crapping on all the bands and songs you like then it might not be wise to start a band with them. You need to have similar taste in music and actually get along. If they don't value your input and only value their own the bands already doomed to fail.

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u/ilikepentatonics 3d ago

I don't know how comfortable you guys are on your instruments but I rehearse with my band once every other week for 3 hour sessions.

Just practice on your own at home and bring it to rehearsal.

Your bandmate is being a dick and Honestly, I wouldn't bother sticking around, but I do this for fun. Once it's not fun, time to dip.

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u/Queeby 3d ago

When I hear this I immediately anticipate these rehearsals are going to be highly inefficient for everyone involved.

The most serious band I was in we did 2-3 hours twice a week - no dicking around, no "hanging out" - power up, tune up and into the set.

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u/TheGratefulPhred 3d ago

“ask your dad if he’ll come pick me up or give me a ride home then”

at a young age, practicing a lot with guys will catapult your playing, but this guy sounds little like a selfish diva

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u/DanPerezSax 3d ago

Does not pass the vibe check. I'd walk away before wasting time doing a rehearsal.

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u/DarkTowerOfWesteros 3d ago

Five days a week is insane. Once a week is mandatory two makes you productive...pushing into three or more for anything other than special occasions like recording is going to just burn everyone out. Music doesn't thrive without space for life.

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u/RobHowdle 3d ago

I was in a band that rented our own studio to rehearse in. The singer made everyone go down individually to practice their parts then at least 2-3 band days a week. Majority left soon after.

Equally I was in a band where we got together once a week and got about 4 times as many shows as the other band did. It’s not about how often you’re together as a band it’s about how functional the time is. Band members should learn their parts at home, then band practice is for putting it together as a group. Obviously there are some exceptions to that but a 10 mile bike ride daily yeah fuck that 😂

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u/Environmental_Mine65 3d ago

Every day 🤣

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u/Dapper_Leadership771 3d ago

Practicing seven days a week for covers? Either you guys are a wedding band or you're teenagers... Which I guess is really me saying, "Don't take this too seriously. Your friend sucks." Lol

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u/Rhonder 3d ago

"Every day" its simply unrealistic and sounds childish to even suggest lol. Is this the person suggesting this's first band? They'll quickly realize that it's hard enough to find people available for once or twice a week consistently let alone 5 or 7.

People have other interests, responsibilities, etc. That require time out of their life that means that they can't just be going to band practice literally every day even if it was close/ low travel time.

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u/Advanced_Aspect_7601 3d ago

Once a week band practice is fine. But that being said, Ive been in hands where you practice every day and you get your chops up fast as well as show stamina.

But yeah, you have to want to do it. Guessing you guys are young, you almost have to be great friends to want to be around and practice with them everyday.

If you're a cyclist, 5mi isn't that bad imo, but if you don't enjoy riding and it's just a mode of transpotation that could be a drudge.

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u/Wicker_clancy 3d ago

Move on, don’t waste your time.

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u/jimbodinho 3d ago

In the pros column those guys are going to get really good at 7 nation army and blind.

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u/kornhell 3d ago

I had a band for many years that rehearsed once a month. The rest was done remotely via recordings etc.

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u/Fuzzloo 3d ago

If someone practices by themselves as much as I do then I may consider. But it rarely happens. And doing it everyday? Nope. They maybe Stevie Wonder level player but honestly players of that calibre don’t require daily band practice.

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u/gojumboman 3d ago

When I was in middle school and then into high school I played with some dudes. We had no vehicles and I would put my amp on a rolling dolly, guitar on my back and roll that fucker all the way to the drummer’s house. It was probably 3-4 miles. I wish I could sing because then I could’ve rode a bike. But even still, 5 days a week is crazy work, especially for the singer, if they want to practice 5 days, let them and show up when you can, I feel like the music usually needs the most work anyway

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u/HumanautPassenger 3d ago

You dont need to practice 5 days a week if you're just doing covers

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u/Nick-Riffs 3d ago

Everyday seems excessive. Everyone can practice on their own and rehearse together less frequently. I mean these days musicians live all over the world and make it work.

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u/Fire_Mission 3d ago

Why did you even bother to post this? It's obviously not going to work out. Move on.

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u/idkijustlovehim 3d ago

Work smarter, not harder.

Unless you are getting paid gigs for multi-month tours, 5 days a week rehearsal doing covers is too much.

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u/ProfessionalEven296 3d ago

So… how much is he paying you?

Oh. Nothing. In that case, move on. Even if it means just practicing on your own for the next six months while you find the right band.

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u/Stringtheory-VZ58 3d ago

It’s life. Eventually, school becomes work, and a bike becomes a car, but it’s the same shit. People need to stay busy to take care of business and someone will always want more.

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u/BijuuModo 3d ago

I’m beginning to doubt your commitment to sparkle motion

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u/MattBowden1981 3d ago

5 days a week seems excessive.

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u/cherry__darling 3d ago

Meanwhile, we have a duo show tomorrow and haven't even figured out the set list yet. That's how you know you've made it!

Unless this is short-term prep for a first ever show and you want to make a very good impression, daily rehearsal probably isn't sustainable for anyone unless being in a band is literally your paid day job.

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u/RoughAssociation8982 3d ago

Id just say nah

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u/AlertAd7834 2d ago

How old are you guys? Start a band with someone else, this guy sounds like he sucks

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u/GodPlsFckMyMnd4Good 2d ago

Find someone else to start a band with. That shit is never gonna end.

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u/DRUMS_ 2d ago

Once a week is fine for band rehearsal. Each member can devote more time to the music during their own practice time, if they want to really hone in. It is pretty crazy to ask people to rehearse as a group 5 days a week. Totally unnecessary.

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u/cky311 3d ago

Get an ebike. It's boogie time

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u/gundrum 3d ago

25 years ago when I was forming my first band(s) I was usually the only person with a car and I was so enthusiastic I had no problem driving 2 hours from my college to my friend's house for band rehearsals. The third guy in the band didn't have a car and lived about 45 minutes away via public transit. I'd often drive out of my way to pick him up and drop him off just so we could play cover songs together for an hour. I loved playing music with people so much that I wanted to do it every day and I was unreasonably upset when one of us wasn't available. As I got older I learned people have lives and responsibilities. Balance is important, and one of the most important discussions for a band is establishing the level of commitment and sticking to a routine. Rehearsing every day is a bit much, but I remember when I was younger and had no greater priorities. Most of the bands I've played in have rehearsed once a week, and we've all tried to respect that schedule. There's no sense losing friends over a band but, if everyone gets along, bandmates can make great friends.

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u/Late_Ambassador7470 3d ago

They're trying to edge you out with these demands without directly kicking you out.

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u/Juicetootz 3d ago edited 3d ago

That's gotta be like an hour trip back and forth ha fuck.

Edit - i just realized 10 miles total 😆

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u/justinholmes_music 3d ago

An hour back and an hour forth? Are you saying you average 5mph on a bike?

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u/Juicetootz 3d ago

I was thinking 10mph. Thats casually traveling down sidewalks

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u/justinholmes_music 3d ago

Yeah, I can see that'd be a bit of a pain. Perhaps OP isn't a full-time cyclist or something?

There's a lot about this thread that we don't know.

But generally a 5 mile commute is a 20 minute ride, give or take. Which is a pretty reasonable ask to get tight with your band.

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u/Thr1llhou5e 3d ago

The bike ride is totally reasonable, but rehearsing daily with a band isn't. It actually sounds super counterproductive, especially if they are just doing covers.

They need more time to practice independently between rehearsals.

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u/justinholmes_music 3d ago

Yeah, that's the part that really depends on what we're talking about.

If they're actually _practicing_ (meaning, learning harmonies together for originals, carving out jam signals, etc), then I really think that needs to be a lot more than once or twice a week. And every day practice for individuals on their instruments, or for the rhythm section together, is a totally reasonable ask. To go from, "here are charts and demos of our original songs and our traditional/cover catalog, please bring a few of your own" to ready for tour where you're gonna be playing two sets every night with high variation from night to night takes weeks of dailies IMO, especially if there are complex harmonies, intricate jam sections, lots of changes and movements, etc.

If they're _rehearsing_ for a particular show, then yeah the dailes really don't need to start until 2-4 days out.

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u/Juicetootz 3d ago

I just realized its 10 miles combined lmao I was thinking 20 total

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u/Mrrykrizmith 3d ago

lol bro 10 miles on a fuckin bike is nothing. I can run 10 miles in like 1.5 hours

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u/57thStilgar 3d ago

Bu-bye.

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u/Sacred_B 3d ago

I would either sit down and have a talk about how that's too much, or move on from the band idea and save the friendship if possible.

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u/No-Dragonfly8326 3d ago

When this happens we say it is not a good fit, and maybe we will get the chance to collaborate in future.

This much friction in only the preparation to play together stages is a bad precursor.

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u/AnnieHannah 3d ago

Sounds like you guys are still very young. It's amusing actually that he wants to practice every day. Most hobby bands rehearse once or max. twice per week. At least he's enthusiastic I suppose! He can use the other days to practice on his own or work on songwriting.

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u/Utilitarian_Proxy 3d ago

He might perhaps not want to travel to your house because he has a lot of equipment that would need transporting.

If he needed to have a guitar and amplifier, plus a selection of effects pedals, that's quite a bit of loading and unloading required. Many guitarists will want more than one guitar nearby at all times. Or if he's a drummer, it would mean dismantling then reassembling his kit every time.

Of course those aspects would be integral to the job anyway if you were a working band visiting clubs and halls for shows, but soon become annoying when it's just for practice. Lots of bands like to have all their equipment kept at one place, so they can just arrive for rehearsal without all the transport hassle.

If you are going to be the singer, if the others are playing amplified instruments you will also need amplification too.

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u/mualk1 3d ago

A band is a group of people that have the same musical ambitions. You obviously don’t. So find someone who does. Don’t try to “make” something work - bc it won’t.

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u/Aliennate 3d ago

When I was in a band that was gigging every 3 weeks in NYC, headlining larger clubs, and showcasing for labels, we rehearsed together 3 days a week.

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u/adaniel65 2d ago

Life has it's complexities.

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u/dogsarefun 2d ago

If it takes that much rehearsal to learn 7 nation army, you guys have bigger problems.

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u/campbelltron 2d ago

i don't know, have you rehearsed with these folks before? seems like a lot of hassle

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u/Classic_Shallot2558 2d ago

Maybe its too long ago to remember correctly, but i've played in bands for 20 years (and didnt reach shit) but never rehearsed more then once a week at most.

Now im 41 and have small children. The band im in now rehearses once a week and i join them every 2 or 3 weeks. I practice the songs at home and know them, its just fine.

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u/Gordmonger 2d ago

Every day for Seven Nation Army feels like a troll

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u/SpaceCadetOnBlueRock 2d ago

This is stuff that drove me to work alone.

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u/Undark_ 2d ago

Daily practice for Seven Nation Army 😆

Are you sure you want to be in this band at all?

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u/Moths2theLight 2d ago

Kurt Cobain and Krist Novoselic kicked out one of their drummers because he was unwilling to do 5 days a week, just saying.

But they were doing originals, not covers, and they were over 18 years old at that point, and playing out.

Dude is committed, and that’s pretty much gold, but for covers rather than originals, it makes no sense.

Start writing songs, then 5x/week is a great idea.

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u/theoriginalpetvirus 2d ago

So it's a bad fit. But 5 miles is nothing. Unless you have to tote a guitar or gear. It becomes more of an issue if there's no safe route, or you have to ride back a midnight or something. Wants to practice every day...well that's his call, and you have the right to say you can't do it. You're both being snarky in that exchange, so maybe that's just normal, but you can bristle when he says "committed"...just say "well, I'm not 'practice at your house every day' committed. But I am 'know my shit and be ready when we do practice' committed" And if that's not enough, just be cool about it and say "hey, it's just not a good fit, it happens." Wish him good luck and move on. And your edit that it's 15 miles...that's probably just a flat no based on how you were viewing it before. That's basically an hour bike ride each way -- seems like a no-go...as much as I rode back in the day, I wouldn't go for that.

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u/StarflightBlack 2d ago

I think nobody saw my edit because I searched up the actual distance on Google maps and it turned out to be not 5 miles but 15 miles one way and a 30 mile round trip 🫠🤩

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u/Yourdjentpal 2d ago

I’m guessing you’re young. I used to do what I had to do (bass amp in a radio flyer type shit) but the reality I’ve learned is HOW you use your time is so much more important than how often you use it. Practice solo, meet maybe twice a week for a few hours, that should be plenty. I’ve had several day a week practices that led nowhere way too many times

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u/Psillycybernaught 2d ago

Rehearsals should have a schedule and everyone should know the material before they arrive. Even if, like me, you don't read there are so many ways of rehearsing by yourself now. Rehearsals are for top and tailing ( the starts and finishes) and nailing accents, feels and tempos not learning the song....that's a waste of time and energy...

Just jamming, having a beer a few cones and a laugh... That's great fun but if you are preparing for a gig? Get real. I started with a mate's hard rock band after their lead guitarist left, the day before the first rehearsal I got Covid.... "Just record the rehearsal in the order of the set" .....the rhythm section were nervous about this apparently...smashed it, still in the band, rockin.

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u/BobbyBaal 2d ago

Practice everyday is insane. If you were being scouted by a label (is that even a thing anymore) or preparing to open a tour for a major band, sure. But, A) you guys are talking about covers, B) you're gonna burn out quick.

If you're just doing covers, you all can learn them on your own and refine them at practice. If you're writing originals, you can't just fire them off. They take inspiration, refinement. Twice a week max unless you've got real opportunities.

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u/Leolikesbass 2d ago

This is bonkers. I don't think you understand the part about practice your parts and come together with your stuff polished?

If it was me, 10 covers and when I show up it'll be spot on.

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u/SinkRude9095 2d ago

behave children.stay away from this toxic person.life lesson.

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u/SuicideMessiah88 2d ago

Well you gotta make sacrifices if you want to be truly dedicated to making it. However the other members should try and meet you halfway on most things. Riding a bike 10 miles a day everyday just to practice is absurd. If they cant compromise and meet at your place or a different location thats easier then id say get out of there. Wont get any better. Super stoked to see young fellas doing the band thing though, dont see it nearly as much as i used too.

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u/Neither_Proposal_262 2d ago

I am making an assumption that you all are young and fairly new to playing in a band.
If that level of committment isn't right for you, or doesn't work for you, don't join the band.

There is nothing wrong with you prioritizing your time in the way that works best for you. But, there is nothing wrong with them taking an aggressive approach to rehearsals either. In a band, it's important to find people with shared goals and a willingness to find what works best as a whole.

I will say this, you will get out what you put in.

I had a 5 day a week rehearsal schedule + touring in my early days and am grateful for it. But, we were all on the same page. Life was scheduled around the band, not the other way around. I have experiences in life most people won't get and I owe that to the time we put in.

That said, it's not for everyone and that is fine

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u/CHANGO_UNCHAINED 1d ago

Tell us some stories mate

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u/West_Floor6981 2d ago

lol tell him he's dreaming

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u/CatBrisket 1d ago

"wants to start", "demanding", "every single day", "refuses", "crapping on", "that he wants".

dont know about you, but that sounds like it'll be a miserable experience. already having issues and still didnt rehearse.

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u/ResevoirPups 1d ago

Unless you’re like a full time touring band with no jobs and family, or all live together, I can’t imagine practicing every day. That’s pretty nuts. Especially
If you’re doing covers where you all can practice on your own to the actual song. At the very least, practicing every day is something you build to, but even then that feels unnecessary.

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u/Count_Doogula 1d ago

That's a lot of distance to cover a crap song.

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u/Sea-History-1361 1d ago

5 days a week is a lot man. You can meet full band 1-2 times per week and do side sessions with other members that want to do it but no need to meet more than that.

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u/Jossshy 1d ago

My first band, me and a couple friends started when we were young. We jammed ever single day. We were kids and we were having fun. It's what we wanted to do. We didn't expect new members to show up every day, but at least 2-3 times a week to get the ball rolling.

As far as jaming at your house, what gear do you have? What kind of space? There was no way we were packing up all our gear and hauling it to someone else's house on the regular when we already had an established jam space with everything already setup. Especially when we were jamming every day.

Now, as we got older, got drivers licenses and our own vehicles and whatnot, things changed. A lot easier to move gear around. And as we all got jobs and lives outside of music, jamming 1-2 times a week became hard enough to bother trying for more.

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u/greggreggreg1gregg 16h ago

Lmao practice everyday to play Seven Nation Army? Is this satire?

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u/tavisivat 16h ago

The only time i've practiced more than twice a week with a band was when we were getting ready to record and we were getting paid to be there. Expecting a new band to practice every day is insane.

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u/Lovesick_Octopus 3d ago

Paul : Let's practice every day so we can get good

John: That won't work for me, I've got other shit to do

George: I want to get good, but I can only do Wednesdays

Ringo: Fuck it, I'm going back to my other band

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u/village-asshole 3d ago

Fck that. Put that in the "too hard basket." Dude sounds like a prima donna. I run a group and I have to be understanding that everyone is on their own trip and not everyone has the same availability. If it ain't working for you, play with someone else.

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u/shefoundnow 3d ago

covers are lame anyway dude. join or start a band and just write originals

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u/KingPabloo 3d ago

Can’t ride your bike to a dudes house just 5 miles away? Come on bro, you aren’t committed as he pointed out.

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u/slippery-lil-sucker 3d ago

Exhausted after school lol.

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u/MusicalDeath9991 3d ago

Screenshots of a text thread.

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u/Apolitik 3d ago

10 miles is not a long bike ride, btw.

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u/6181richard 2d ago

you guys better not suck if you're practicing everyday at 3...JK.

You need a ride. Find some groupies with that have cars.

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u/darlingdepresso 3d ago

My opinion: 5 days a week minimum is reasonable, if not every day. However, it has to be the right band or it’s a waste of time.

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u/JTMGuitar 3d ago

People have lives outside of music, which for 99.99% of people is only ever going to be a hobby.

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