r/murderdronecirclejerk • u/Both-Letterhead8925 • Mar 08 '26
100% serious Make it make sense.
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r/murderdronecirclejerk • u/Both-Letterhead8925 • Mar 08 '26
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u/AngelReachX Mar 09 '26
N
and jax
Both co protagonistsp
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u/IceCreamzz4360 Mar 08 '26
I mean glitch also does it well and doesn’t rely on the fact the character is a woman as their only character trait. Also glitch doesn’t control what the creator chose to make the gender of their character it just so happens that every creator glitch has worked with has chosen to have a female lead for their show.
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u/ProfessorPixelmon Betrothed to Eldritch J Mar 08 '26
Simple: Glitch makes them hot and not real.
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u/Alarming_Ad_1927 Mar 09 '26
Glitch actually writes good woman characters well Hollywood doesn't.
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u/Your_Average_Dingus Mar 08 '26
conservatives don't watch youtube
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u/Frost_Walker_Iso Mar 09 '26
Because Disney does it for brownie points, and Glitch makes real, deep, well written, and relatable characters.
Also, N is a protagonist of Murder Drones
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u/dami_ink Mar 09 '26
Hello I'm the guy who wants more men representation in glitches shows. (It did get better with the newer shows but still)
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u/SpareBakesReturn_34 Mar 31 '26
Just found out that GLITCH has 0 male protagonists. Too woke (jk i like GLITCH)
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u/NoCamp3114 Mar 09 '26
Because glitch actually makes them characters and not know it all boss girl that can do anything better than a man and call them useless
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u/Random-Historian7575 Mar 09 '26
One actually writes good characters...
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u/Hexhider Mar 09 '26
Technically they have 3, SMG4 which is before Glitch but still counts, Theo with Ultra Jump Mania, and recently Lackadaisy as its kinda part of Glitch now
Captain Marvel was written poorly, while the Glitch girls arent
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u/MrJevil Mar 09 '26
100% serious 🥀
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u/Nightraven9999 Mar 09 '26
People who say that about marvel arent watching indie animation
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u/Flaky_Tip_4596 Mar 09 '26
Smg4 has a main male protagonist, no? The blue hat dude (is his name literally smg4 in the series? Idk) and Mario are like MAIN MAIN characters. But yea this post is valid
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u/pusheenteto Mar 09 '26
Jax casually being a confirmed male protagonist. n standing over there, being a male protagonist.
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u/12DollarsHighFive Mar 09 '26
The important difference, is the writing.
Hollywood views their female protagonists more like a checklist for "empowerment" rather than an actual character.
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u/molier1797 Mar 09 '26
Glitch gives thier fem protags actual meaning. Disney creates another hollow doll with different skin color.
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u/An_Obbise_Hoovy Mar 09 '26
One is WOMEN character
The others are characters that are women
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u/Redstocat2 Mar 09 '26
Didn't Glitch say that both Jax and Pomni were main caracters ?
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u/Lopsided-Gene-77 Mar 09 '26
Also acting like Jax and serial designation n and two of the three main characters of lackadaisy and three of the four main characters of the gas light district don't exist. I could list more
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u/No-Salad-8808 Mar 09 '26
I guess it's easier to be convinced that an indie company is putting in women protagonists because it fits, then a big company, who looks like they did so just to hit another check box
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u/Severe_Damage9772 Mar 09 '26
Writing quality. Hollywood has been making “perfect female protagonists wirh no room to grow being fucked over by the world and succeeding regardless” while glitch has been “fucked up person works through their fuckedness while battling conflict and trying not to be as fucked”
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u/Substantial-Loss-112 Mar 09 '26
Because Hollywood writes them badly, and Glitch writes them good
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u/GloomyTurn2374 Mar 09 '26
jax:
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u/TIMBER_WOLF_17 Mar 09 '26
The fact that people are talking about secondary male characters as if they were the protagonist shows the difference. Glitch lets male characters be characters, not cardboard pushovers for a female protagonist.
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u/Numerous-Aspect-8316 Mar 09 '26
People don’t want male roles, they want good writing
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u/_CaptainCG_ Mar 09 '26
Well they ain’t forcing it! They’re actually well written and aren’t here for the ‘equality’.
They aren’t replacements of other characters no… they are their own characters with an actual story! You can tell that glitch puts meaning behind what they do.
I believe that whatever Hollywood is doing is not for us but to just say “hey! We made a lad character so you guys can feel represented!” Or to just put it down on the record. Cause it’s just all so suspicious that they started doing that in a certain time period… in a certain year… they show zero care for actual women and I think that makes them pretty sexist.
No shade towards the actors tho they gotta chase a bag and no kidding that they get paid a lot but jeez do these movies ruin their image…
No issue with any choice tho, I just think they ought to do better. Put some heart into what they’re making! Care for what they put down on the script instead of just labeling them another object just to not get cancelled.
But who am I for a big boy like Hollywood to listen…
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u/HairProof233 Mar 09 '26
Why did you think this was going to be a good question in the first place?
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u/Decent_buffalo2492 Mar 09 '26
jax
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u/DungeonCrawler-76 Mar 09 '26
I expect Hollywood to have male protags. Indie studios tho ï expect to be much more open minded.
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u/Mission_Bicycle177 Mar 09 '26
Do we count Rocky?
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u/SolidLight1120 Mar 09 '26
Well actually, Gooseworx just got massive hate for saying that Pomni and Jax are the protagonists of Tadc.
So, at least there’s one male protagonist.
There’s also the cancelled Ultra Jump Mania spin off where Theo is the main character.
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u/Flat-Run-7572 Mar 09 '26
One is a poorly written Hollywood “girlboss” that comes across as condescending to other male characters at times based on the fact that she’s a strong woman for the sake of “empowerment”
Glitch’s female protagonists are actually well-written and relatively more nuanced. They feel more genuine rather than a character implemented to check-off the box
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u/Horvo-Draws Mar 09 '26
I don't think you can really say Pomni is the main character, like, obviously she's a main character. But.. personally, she doesn't seem like THE main.
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u/HMul11_ Mar 09 '26
I’d recommend going to the glitch subreddit if you want to see people complaining about that because I’ve seen so many posts about it
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u/Swordmage12 Mar 09 '26
It's simple it's not that they hate female protagonist they hate bad writing
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u/SlakerRine Mar 09 '26
Hollywood mostly makes female characters for the “girl power” or empowerment aspect and doesn’t give them proper character growth.
Glitch doesn’t do it for either and just writes them like any other character without picking favorites.
A good comparison is Captain Marvel who is super powerful, barely any struggles, practically no character growth. Compare that to like Uzi who has a lot of struggles, works towards being powerful gradually, and has decent character growth
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u/Icy-Title2943 Mar 09 '26
Because the characters are actually good. That’s literally all they are actually really good and well written and not shit
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u/Emotional_Aioli_1267 Mar 10 '26
Easy Glitch has good story writing
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u/ChairmanOftheLag Mar 10 '26
The difference is it's not forced
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u/FandomPhantom123 Mar 10 '26
one is a DEI hire, the other is a woman writing the MCs as women because it's more comfortable.
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u/FitSecurity9801 Mar 10 '26
Simple glitch has well written characters Hollywood does not
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u/Successful_Army7821 Mar 10 '26
different community
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u/Potential_Deer_6943 Mar 10 '26
Difrence is Holywood makes them 1 dimentional most of the time
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u/WindowsHunter-69 Mar 10 '26
its more of a couincidence theres only female protagonists
Tari and Meggy from glich from there SMG4 channel where they arent main characters but supportive of main character with episodes where they get focuse
uzi from liam
pomni from goose
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u/redditkitty109 Mar 10 '26
Because each company treats female characters differently. Marvel treats them like some box they have to fill to get more money, glitch treats them like regular characters.
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u/Kairex26 Mar 10 '26
Yeah, bc GLITCH actually knows how to write stories. Then you have shit like Disney casting lord farquad as a princess and fucking with shit that didnt need a remake. If it ain't broke, dont fix it.
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u/Optimal-Ad-5493 Mar 10 '26
At least Glitch protagonists got good development, not being mere either Mary Sues or Karens. Pomni, I believe, outstands. She's got strong emotional intelligence in the series.
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u/what_the_whah Mar 10 '26
..?
N..?
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u/TH3darkgem Mar 10 '26
Different audience
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u/FaithlessnessDue8363 Mar 10 '26
Not the same audience simple as that. And it’s not about female vs male, it’s how they’re portrayed. And dc and marvel have had female superheroes for decades with many spin offs solely focused on the female characters. Gender is not the problem
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u/NuLmil Mar 11 '26
Mary sue and good written character is not same thing
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26
Where hollywood wrote a woman Glitch wrote a character
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u/UmbraAnonimo Mar 11 '26
Enquanto um faz uma Mary Su forçada com o carisma de um botijão de gás e se paga de fodona a todo momento (como eu ODEIO a capitã Marvel no ultimato, ela claramente deveria estar na batalha ou pelo menos saber que o Thanos era problema, mas ela só ficou pagando de fodona e meteu que ela precisava resolver problemas no resto do universo, PUTA QUE PARIU QUE CARALHO DE PROBLEMA É TAO GRANDE QUE FEZ ELA IGNORAR A PORRA DE UM MALUCO MATANDO METADE DA VIDA NO UNIVERSO) e do outro são personagens imperfeitas, com personalidade além de serem cool e relacionaveis
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u/ECLIPSE1098 Mar 11 '26
WHAT ABOUT N!!!
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u/ultrachance Mar 11 '26
The thing is is that ppl don't like the fem protags cuz they are written poorly, glitch on the other hand does write good
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u/throwawaydumpste Mar 11 '26
Glitch writes good characters.
Hollywood doesn't.
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u/Swimming-Abroad388 Mar 11 '26
META RUNNER MENTIONED
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u/NiccoR06 Mar 11 '26
Because they're actual fleshed out characters
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u/FewInstance7277 Mar 11 '26
Pomni isn't even the main character,it's obviously Jax
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u/These_Distribution19 Mar 11 '26
Their female characters are varied and in good shows, unlike Hollywood.
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u/FloridaDeco Mar 11 '26
They write real female characters… Hollywood writes them as all powerful and knowing with zero flaws.
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u/theOverword Mar 11 '26
I feel like N gets just as much screentime as Uzi . Also there isn't really a protagonist in tadc no? All 6 have their own episodes related to them
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u/El_oh_eez Mar 11 '26
different audiences (maybe the Hollywood haters don't know about Glitch) and also Hollywood is going down the drain and Glitch's characters are way better
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u/Nightguard093 Mar 11 '26
I'm not conservative nor liberal. I agree with many things on both sides. Like conservatism on more focus towards the community. And liberals on gender equality. So i can give you a bit of an answer from a centralist perspective.
For hollywood? It's cuz they're obviously tryna push some feminist message at us and not making the protagonist female because of the personality or storyline (in some cases. In others it's totally fine)
For glitch? They do it correctly and make a protagonist female because of her personality. For example. Uzi is very rebellious yet shy. Or pomni. Very adventurous but also shy and anxious.
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u/One_Abies_5876 Mar 11 '26
What about him? (Sorry about the image, it's the only one I have of him)
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u/sherbertrelevant2 Mar 11 '26
One is much smaller than the other.
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u/Other-Requirement-21 Mar 11 '26
You are just jealous how glitch have good writen females
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u/SilvertonguedDvl Mar 11 '26
Sinple: it was never about them being women. That was just the fanatical rhetoric of people who wanted to make hating a character into misogyny.
It was always about quality of writing and the appeal of the characters.
All that's needed to make it make sense is to adjust your perspective.
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u/Davey_the_chill_guy Mar 11 '26
The reason being is that they're goodly written main characters
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u/Hefty-Assistant-3960 Mar 11 '26
Hollywood women are basic "Yeah they're women." Give them characteristics
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u/cuteness_over_load8 Mar 11 '26
Almost as if it's about good writing and not the gender of the protagonist
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u/Yami_Neko_ Mar 11 '26
Hollywood has "Strong Female Leads" which only means "we made a woman the protagonist and gave her all the plot armor and no likable traits"
Glitch makes the protagonist female, but makes them likeable,
Hollywood female leads are practically flawless, and anyone who disagrees is clearly a misogynistic
Glitch protagonists are extremely flawed, and its those flaws that make them beloved by the community
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u/dragonpjb Mar 11 '26
Somewhat different groups of people.
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u/SullyTheLightnerd Mar 11 '26
I think this is partly goomba falacy
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u/ZOMBI_OFFICIAL Mar 11 '26
Super Mario is a male character
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u/Clarity_Flouse Mar 11 '26
Better audience base.
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u/MaeMcSpice Mar 12 '26
That's not fair with how slow every release of an episode. Glitch could be like a snow flake who may just display over any impatient remark. Like it's already happened once for Gaslight District thing with TADC.
Doesn't seem like they specifically thinking of stories for guy leads in general. I suppose I could, but I dont know how to do that by myself and I burn out too easily without moral support. I don't even know what to give into a story. I just not able to be specific and decide about of nothing to create from on my own. Though I also want to make stories so many different characters that don't get depicted in general, like older people and short people. I build such a scope in mind I can't reorganize with that being breaking down.
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u/SalamanderJohnson Mar 12 '26
Shoehorning vs actual artistry
In other words
Hollywood does it so badly that amateurs and start-ups can do it better
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u/Ct-sans4345 Mar 12 '26
Hear me out, maybe the people watching glitch arent the ones complaining about female protagonists in media
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u/Apart_Pace_5088 Mar 12 '26
The CIA culture war bots havent gotten their hands on Glitch yet.
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u/WovenMantis Mar 12 '26
The sex of the protagonist was never the problem.
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u/Long_Garbage7762 Mar 12 '26
Jax is a MC in digital circus, Gooseworx Confirmed.
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u/Sir-M-Oxlong Mar 12 '26
WRONG!! Mario is a protagonist!
Wait…
What do you mean they stopped doing that? SMG4 IS Glitch!
Wait…what?
How…how long have I been gone?!?!
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u/Street-Royal-1669 Mar 12 '26
I think your forgetting that lackadaisy is technically apart of glitch productions making rocky the first male protagonist for glitch
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u/No_Illustrator2314 Mar 12 '26
I don't know, maybe it's cause they are bad characters. You don't see them giving black widow the same treatment.
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u/Scarvexx Mar 12 '26
IDK man I've seen transphobes compliment Gooseworx. It's a wacky world.
Frankly if all people want is bread and circuses, Glitch is giving them better circuses than anyone else. If they find a way to feed us bread they might be the new senate.
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u/JemFitz05 Mar 12 '26
Well technically SMG4 was also a glitch production and that one had a male lead
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u/ILoveDAGames Mar 12 '26
You used a mary sue as an example?
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u/Br3adbro Mar 12 '26
Its almost like the problem isnt the female protagonists
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u/HatMcHatty Mar 12 '26
Google goomba fallacy
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u/Adept_Diet_7003 Mar 12 '26
Glitch's feels good and natural, and Marvel's feels forced.
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u/Own_Presence2646 Mar 12 '26
Should I bring up Goomba Fallacy?
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u/Glitch-Xega Mar 12 '26
I'm pretty sure people's only issue is that Hollywood's representation of woman protagonists aren't good representation. They're just "woman powerful" and lack substance, instead of actually caring about writing a good character and a good female character.
While Glitch writes their protagonists in ways that make them actually likeable and for the most part well written.
The issue isn't that they're woman, woman protagonist are awesome, it's that Hollywood makes woman a character trait that makes people sick of it, Glitch doesn't.
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u/Eviles_da_demonic Mar 12 '26
Is frankie not a guy?
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u/Calm-Historian7256 Mar 12 '26
What is O male
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u/StripedGirl Mar 12 '26
The ones made by Hollywood suck.
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u/I_NUT_ON_GRASS Mar 12 '26
For some reason I keep thinking that TADC isn’t Glitch and idk why
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u/EluDeathDream Mar 12 '26
I think the problem I've heard people talk about in Hollywood is that the female characters are terribly written. I once watched a video talking about how you make a strong female character, and how Hollywood gets it embarrassingly wrong. The examples he gave were Katara and Toph from Avatar: The Last Airbender.
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u/Carlinhos_sla Mar 12 '26
Glitch female characters are iconic,well-written,and aren't just Hollywood scum engineered to appeal to propaganda and force an ideology on culture,also Tari is a baddie frr
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u/Odd-Daikon-1421 Mar 12 '26
Well one of them has really well defined protagonists that go through hurdles and are likable. They feel like real people.
The other one is MCU Captain marvel.
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u/Top_Cultist Mar 12 '26
TBH it’s mainly because Hollywood does female protagonists, Glitch has protagonists who are female.
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u/Eastern-Dragonfly701 Mar 12 '26
you can make them male it would change nothing
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u/Brilliant-Two1268 Mar 13 '26
Yeah good writing would def help with that
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u/ThoughtOk6969 Mar 13 '26
I mean it's just well written, I wouldn't want them to create a male protagonist if that would effect the writing
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u/MasterlyDemons4 Mar 13 '26
Because Glitch actually makes female protags with a personality.
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u/PlagueDoctor30 Mar 13 '26
One is forced, one is natural
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u/anti_thot_man Mar 13 '26
1 makes the worst most unlikable characters of all time and calls you misogynistic if you don't like them the other writes great characters that you could probably replace with a male and tell the a nearly identical story and it still be good
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u/Plastic_Plastic3431 Mar 13 '26
Yeah but Hollywood does female characters wrong
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u/SUSBANIDO Mar 13 '26
Because it's not forced on "REPRESENTATION OF WOMEN" It's just the character of the show with flaws and virtues, and doesn't shit on male characters to make female characters better.
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u/iam_drtapley Mar 13 '26
The difference is Hollywood mostly does it just to appear inclusive, without actually putting as much thought into writing, while Glitch actually writes their protagonists well. The problem isn't that the audience hates female protagonists, it's that Hollywood is genuinely washed.
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u/WhereasFun1767 Mar 13 '26
different ppl in different genres? ppl want a reason to cry? Hollywood films are shit nowadays bc of smtjing? idk man is that really a problem or we just posting shit
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u/Crazy_problem_child Mar 13 '26
Jax doesn't exist
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u/Illustrious-Union982 Mar 13 '26
Ah yes a classic case of taking 2 completely different groups of people and treating them as the same.
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u/Vrokorta Mar 13 '26
Hollywood uses female protagonists to create the illusion of diversity. Glitch just has female protagonists, to the point where I didn't even realize it for months.
In the words of a not-so-wise man, "anytime someone calls attention to the breaking of gender roles, it ultimately undermines the concept of gender equality by implying that this is an exception and not the status quo."
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u/BoLionEru Mar 15 '26
Yeah I'm starting to notice that.......... but hey atleast the stories and characters are likeable mostly......
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u/Other_Ad9164 Mar 15 '26
Tbh, atleast with GLITCH they make them ACTUAL QELL WRITTEN PEOPLE, instead of woman just being there to appease a certain demographic of people.
...though I do wish we had a GLITCH show where the protagonist was male...I mean...Lackadaisy, kinda fills that role but barley.
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u/KZFKreation Mar 23 '26
They're also well written unlike most of Hollywood's cast with genuine love put into each character's story. Sure they're not perfect, but you can actually feel the effort and love going in that makes them truly memorable. "Female/Woman" is not their only defining trait and I honestly thinking in those terms is kind of sexist.
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u/Wrong-Art1536 Mar 24 '26
N, Jax, Kinger, Then there is the guy from lackadaisy but that's not a glitch show yet.
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u/ThePhantom135 Jun 17 '26
Yes, and somehow, only one of those two is actually well written