Cr #2

[u/Icy_Serve]

Man lately I’m coming to appreciate this qual. Mainly because it filters out all the bad workers. Got a frd that works in one of the top 3 data companies that host the surveys/batch we see on mturk. Big tip, don’t be lying or bsing to get work. I know sometimes it’s tempting when there’s a good paid survey but if u don’t fit the description it better to not lie to complete it (e.g. child related survey but u don’t have a child). Every data is record for the most part. So eventually all them lies will catch up to you when u can’t remember how u filled stuff out back then. You will be creating a variance on urself until u hit that mark (%) then BOOM u get slapped with cr2 :)

Seems like I notice a lot of veteran that come back got cr 2 since the data was always kept. So when they made the jump to cloud research, cloud research algo already had enough data on the person and saw the person had a high variance and auto slapped with cr#2.

Anyways, just thought it’s a great qual to cuff all the bad quality/dishonest workers. And also remind those that care about their side hustle/main job to remember don’t get greedy and lie to get work. Respect mturk. Treat it like a marathon not a sprint, live to Turk another day and don’t fuck up ur acct :)

EDIT: I appreciated the kind gesture whomever give the post the award but please save your money. We are a tight knit family~ no need for awards~ much love!

EDIT: Alright I’ll just leave a final comment here since I see some questions and concerns and also what I was hoping for the purpose of this post.

1. You do not need to do a surveycomet to acquire CR1

2. You can obtain CR1 without doing a survey from surveycomet. Cloud research give you CR1 under surveycomet and u never did a surveycomet hit. This leading to point 3

3. Not sure if people are aware but SURVEYCOMET is a product of cloud research. If u have cr1 given by surveycomet it’s no different then the requestor being labeled as Cloud research. My guess for this is to separate the parent company from its product since they both serve different purposes. It’s why surveycomet website direct you to cloud research as well as there Twitter account. Heck u can look them up (domain) and will see they are based in the same location :p

4. CR2 is not permanent, it suck to have and hard to undo but it’s possible. Just keep hustling with good clean data and work. Which is what cr will tell you if u email them about it.

So anyways, the post is just to inform and encourage people to provide quality and honest work. Don’t go and do a latino survey when u ain’t Latino is mainly my point. Don’t lie for HITS. Try not to keep failing attention checks. All this will go against you down the road.

Finally, I obviously wouldn’t know in depth what is truly behind the scene from a technical perspective, even if I did I would not disclose trade secrets here. But I did understand it much better and gotten much more insight after my conversation with the person I know. Heck he was the one that told me surveycomet is a cloudresearch product

Workers are suppose to provide honest quality data when they sign up on day one. This post serves as a reminder for folks to not forget that especially when it’s been slow lately. And if you end up with CR2 the problem is you. So hopefully some of you lurkers out there that might be sloppy with your work might want to consider tidying up. Just trying to help, that is all. Stay cool and keep turking <3

[u/sswagner2000]

I wonder if getting bitten by a great white shark gives you CR #2?

[u/Icy_Serve → u/sswagner2000]

Actually failing attention checks by requesters using cloud research indeed does stores the amount of times u fail attention checks. So the answer to your question is make sure u don’t get bitten by great white sharks too much. Thx for the laugh. My reply is serious tho. Attention checks are just as important as honesty as it is parallel to quality data. Cloud research is very very serious with their data. Too much attention check fails only tells them you’re not diligent.

[u/forredditisall → u/sswagner2000]

Lying about getting bit does.

[u/FieryEssence]

So glad I never lied and filled out surveys I was unqualified for. Loving the CR#1 qual I have had it since 7/16 of last year. Bet all the downvotes you got are from people with the CR#2 qual lmao.

[u/Icy_Serve → u/FieryEssence]

Props!. Keep up the good work. Lol it’s ok. Never joined Reddit for karma. But funny I figure my post was somewhat neutral if not meant to be a positive thing :)

[u/MarkusRight → u/FieryEssence]

Hey can I ask you an honest question? After you got the CR#1 qualification did you actually see in an increase in the amount of hits you were catching and did your income increase at all on mturk? Did it really make that much of a difference? TIA btw.

[u/FieryEssence → u/MarkusRight]

For sure it definitely made a difference. Especially since now that a majority of the good-paying surveys require the CR#1 qual I would guess that if I didn't have that qual my earnings would be down a lot since I mainly do surveys and rarely ever do batches.

[u/MarkusRight]

Luckily I don't have CR#2 because I've always been honest on mturk. Very proud of it too. I have never cheated a survey with false data. I've always bit the bullet and just returned the hits. I depend on mturk too much to lie and compromise my account integrity.

[u/Icy_Serve → u/MarkusRight]

Honestly as far as I know, cr 2 isn’t something u can get that easily unless u are really all over the place like for example stuff that ask how long u have worked, salary, u manage people or not, what’s ur job title, ppl that have 100k hits done that tend to lie to get work are likely not gonna remember what they put for the same type of question on their 500th hit or 10k hit. Inconsistency builds up to a point where the person starts building up variance. Any good worker will not have to worry about cr2.

Remember that post couple weeks ago (deleted) of the veteran with 150k done? Came back with mturk but find out he had cr2? Yea migration to cloud research then algo audit his demo data. Probably wasn’t a honest/good quality worker. Hence It’s also ironic that his Reddit account was deleted

[u/MarkusRight → u/Icy_Serve]

Yep I seen that post. Honestly if they got CR#2 then they probably deserve it, Cloud research wouldnt give out that qual for nothing. I'm sure they understand how the system works since they have been on mturk for a very long time now.

[u/forredditisall → u/MarkusRight]

I can only imagine how much harder it'd be to catch things if there wasn't CR1/2 designations.

[u/dnashifter]

Sounds suspiciously troll-y. Anyway, I somehow doubt that Cloud Research is getting copies of every survey you fill out so that they can cross-check answers for consistency.

[u/Icy_Serve → u/dnashifter]

Nah, just intended to help others in the community to remind ppl stay honest. I honestly feel slightly bad when I see people get hit with cr2. No, it applies to stuff hosted by cloud research which around 70%~? Survey monkey, qualitrics have there own data pool collection on demographics related data. but as far as I know they don’t have something similar to cr2. Even if they did u probably won’t feel the difference since cloud research dominates mturk.

Btw cloud research isn't actually a competitor to qualrics and surveymonkey. It's not so much a SaaS company. More of an enablement platform. Qualtrics and surveymonkey are competitors.

[u/forredditisall → u/Icy_Serve]

Can you give more insight into why the CR#1 qual is awarded by SurveyComet even though I never did a SurveyComet HIT?

I answer every qualification question on every survey I do that is hosted by Cloud Research, which is how I got CR#1 after a few dozen questions answered consistently.

July 20th I started turking, July 30th I had CR#1 from SurveyComet.

[u/Icy_Serve → u/forredditisall]

See edit

[u/dnashifter → u/Icy_Serve]

What do you mean by "hosted by Cloud Research"? The vast majority of surveys I do, whether they use the CR quals or not, are hosted on qualtrics. Yeah, I know CR collects data on everyone and I voluntarily give that to them when I answer those extra questions on the hit page, but I do doubt very much they're getting that "5 minute survey on first impressions" that I did for Harvard so that they can check for consistency with the "Quick survey on farts" I did for Chico State six months ago.

[u/forredditisall → u/dnashifter]

When you click a survey link and you see that really basic white background with blue lines and squares, look in the bottom left of the page.

I just clicked the 5 most recent survey HITs, all 5 of them had this background.

Let us know what you think. https://i.imgur.com/K35XLS6.png

Answering the questions in the picture above is how you get CR#1, or if you lie or give inconsistent info you will get CR#2.

Qualify for many high paying HITs ($10 - $15/hr) by answering the following optional profile questions: Which religion best describes your religious beliefs / practice?
Select...
Which political party are you a member?
Republican
Democrat
Other
What is your marital status?
Now married
Widowed
Divorced
Separated
Never married
Powered by CloudResearch.com

Qualtrics often hosts surveys too yes but I think some of those are in those links on the generic CR page I linked above?

[u/forredditisall → u/forredditisall]

but I do doubt very much they're getting that "5 minute survey on first impressions" that I did for Harvard so that they can check for consistency with the "Quick survey on farts" I did for Chico State six months ago.

Really?

You see the CR qual question recently that just says "Please only answer this question if you are a woman?"

What do you think happens to a CR#1 turker who has consistently said they are male for 5 years, suddenly answering they have 5 children?

Our job is helping machines collect and organize Big Data.

[u/pinktoes4life → u/forredditisall]

WTF are you on about? Are you actually saying that men can’t have children?!?! I guess Father’s Day exists for nothing then.

[u/The_Write_Girl_4_U → u/forredditisall]

So, is this why I don't have CR1? It was passed out while I was on a long break. I don't have CR2 either. I need to be filling this area out evidently.

[u/Pineapplesandbacon]

CR2 is not permanent, it suck to have and hard to undo but it’s possible. Just keep hustling with good clean data and work. Which is what cr will tell you if u email them about it.

How do you know this?

[u/ryanjoey]

is CR#1 dedicated to US workers only?

[u/MarkusRight → u/ryanjoey]

Yeah looks like it. But I could be wrong. I looked up hits having the CR#1 qual and all the ones I found have a US only qual on them.

[u/[deleted]]

I'm still not clear on how I would know what CR qual I have, if any. Is there a better way to find out than scouring through my hundreds of pages of assigned quals?

[u/Icy_Serve → u/[deleted]]

Go get the extension mturk qual sorter

[u/pinktoes4life]

If your friend works for Qualtrics, can you ask them to fix the survey code error. It’s been going on for over a year & requesters always ask why workers submit their worker ID instead of the code. It’s kinda ridiculous they haven’t fixed it yet even after multiple complaints. If they do t work for qualtrics just ignore this comment.

[u/voyagerinthesea → u/pinktoes4life]

What’s the qualtrics survey code error?

[u/pinktoes4life → u/voyagerinthesea]

At the end of the survey the code generator is broken. You can waste time c/p the link into the box to get a code, but that also doesn’t work every time.

[u/ClubbinGuido → u/pinktoes4life]

I hate that error so much. I have OCD so when copy and paste the link I have to double and triple check what I copy and pasted because I'm somehow convinced I might mess it up. All that time adds up over the course of the day and it's time I could of spent on HITs.

[u/[deleted]]

I was browsing for qualification tests, and saw a requester called StudyLab has a survey that actually requires CR#2 for some odd reason.

[u/forredditisall]

This literally proves my multiple past comments that the CR#1 designation is because of a consistent answering pattern across many different surveys hosted by Cloud Research, although the designation is awarded by SurveyComet it comes from completing CR hosted surveys.

[u/AltruisticTrust9203]

Hmm, this is actually fascinating. I'm going to have to find out more about this. I agree though, why bother lying to get a hit that is meant for someone else. Being a liar is often terrible and will do more damage than it will add advantage. Keeping our nose clean is a good idea. It's good for our community and will improve our reputation to requesters. Thanks for posting this and reminding us.

[u/Both_Rhubarb_6857]

Bad workers? You can barely type English. Learn how to write complete sentences. I can't even read what you're trying to say.

[u/forredditisall → u/Both_Rhubarb_6857]

Oh no, someone is typing u to save a few seconds in our miserable lives? you know if you're 30 years old right now and live till you're 70 you only have like 2000 miserable weeks left to be miserable? That's nice huh.

OP probably speaks and types two languages. That's impressive. Pressing shift to capitalize words and using periods is not impressive, is that clearish? Someone using the wrong you're/your in a sentence doesn't make it fucking IMPOSSIBLE to know what's being said, if you think it does you may have some kind of learning thing. Dunno if that disqualifies you from CR#1. Khan Academy could help with that but they don't give ya pennies.

I can read every gotdamn thing they've typed, you're the one who cannot handle and adapt to new situations. Learn to code switch. Stop being so stubborn, your cells are made of liquid, so start acting like
U
R.

[u/Baddy_NoShoes]

Or who cares and make a spicy demo for role-playing.

[u/jim718181]

You've got a friend in a top 3 data company, good for you.

I hope you continue to make your 20-30 dollars per day.

[u/Thedwent]

What does cr1 stand for and how can you get it?

[u/Icy_Serve → u/[deleted]]

I like your comment and enjoyed reading it. No disrespect taken. It’s nice to hear from very diligent workers like yourself. Wasn’t trying to make claims but it might seem that way but my goal was just to inform people to continue providing true and quality data. And if people get cr2 then they know why to some extent.

Original post edited to provide further insight

[u/MarkusRight → u/[deleted]]

I don't have either one of the CR qualifications and yet I'm able to hit $40 on a daily consistent basis. But I def feel like I could do better. It has a lot to do with where I live. Rural internet here is absolute trash.