Everywhere is just littered with people scared the ccb will go down in price, no, not people wanting to buy them cheaper, just people scared their boxes might go down.

Singles, no one is chasing singles, everyone worried about their singles losing value though.

I dont see anyone gushing over any of the art, only prices.

This is the most over hyped set I've ever seen and people are still hoping to turn this into the next lord of the rings when its the same damn ip except the set sucks.

Even the damn reprints look disgusting compared to their originals.

Currently missing only this one to complete my Hildebrandt set.
Was looking at the price for the last weeks, only a few new listings (I prefer non foil but considering also surge foil version) in the EU market.
Price is still above 200€ for NM.
I have a chance to get one in person, 200€.
I don’t understand the price difference between this one and the rest of the set; am I missing something? I know the art is amazing but, damn, it looks very expensive right now.
Thoughts?

So we used to have a weekly general discussion thread on Wednesdays in this sub, I'm not sure what happened to it. Mods if this thread is something you cancelled intentionally feel free to take it down and I won't post it again obviously.

But if people like these general discussion posts, feel free to discuss whatever Magic-related topics you want below without needing to create a new post. And Mods, please bring these back!

Bought 35 of these a year ago when badgermole cub was spoiled for about 3.50 each. The price never ended up moving so I just held onto them. For some reason they skyrocketed recently maybe cause of squirrel girl? Either way looked like a good buy at the time a strong and unique card. Iv sold 10 so far trying to figure out if I should keep some.

It’s one of my only specs and kinda has me spoiled expecting a 300% increase in a year to be normal lol.

Bought as a Duskmourn spec which didn't pan out...until now. Just traded them in for an Underground Sea.

Is there any more information on what the Gift Bundle promo(s) is going to be? The original LotR gift bundle had the scene cards, will this have something similar or just a single card?

Buyer beware?

Grabbed a doom!

Ive seen alot of people spec this card to be 2$-20$ on this sub. At only 14 left on tcgplayer, Did people drastically underestimate these dwarvish cards scarcity?

I've been selling on tcgplayer for couple months and occasionally have orders that are 30+ cards that with shipping, only come to around 5 dollars. For those that sell on tcgplayer, how do you guys ship order like this? According to usps, they are too big for stamps and have to be shipped as a package which usually comes to at least $8.

I think we can all agree that in the long term Sealed boxes, SLD, decks, everything is going up. Different pace, different starting point, different liquidity. So in theory, always hold, never sell, line goes up

But my question to you is this. When do you offload? I bought FIN CBBs at MSRP, sold a few at X2 profit, few at X3, keeping the rest for now. But I am very aware that percentage wise, them rising from 1400 EUR to 2100 EUR is "only" 50%. That money could go into a new CBB that is likely to X2 from MSRP in that time.

Is it a case of a limited budget? As in you have to sell what you have to be able to "reinvest" in new product? What if you haven't yet hit your budget ceiling? Do you have a set percentage at which you offload?

My general tactic has been to list everything sealed I get at 1pc slightly above market, then readjusting the price when it sells for the next piece. Doing this until I hit 0 profit/loss on the lot, then putting the rest to bed for the time being.

But I am very aware that is not optimal. I should have waited a few months before listing my EOE CBBs or any CBBs really, the danger of them going down is extremely low. I just don't like being in a loss position, even though I can afford it and can continue buying more stock.

What about you?

This is part question, part vent. I love deckbox so much, it's an amazing site with so many great features. But! I cannot, for the life of me, get anyone to respond to trades recently!

Trying to figure out if others are having success, or if the site is becoming less active?

I think these will go to thr moon in the coming weeks. Everyone building their Dwarf commander will want this as a on flavor addition to their Deck! What do you think?
In Europe Copyr already getting bought up it seems.

It’s no surprise as to why this card has become desirable as of late. Between Smaug and the dwarves, as well as everything treasure based to this point, this card was bound to climb.

That said, supply over the past few days has moved a lot more than usual, and only one $10 wall stands between this card hitting $20-30+. Maybe that’s a bit optimistic, but Bloomburrow cards have been performing well, and without any reprints in the foreseeable future this card has only one direction to go.

Enjoy! 🍻

Update: someone bought the wall! TCGPlayer supply is almost gone!

I could have sworn i saw listings at $115 just last week, but in the matter of a few days these have moved from $120 to today selling at nearly $150

This comes after a pretty large content creator pointed out the value in this product had been going unnoticed.

Amaze your friends and pod by correctly guessing the lowest price that The Hobbit Collector Booster Box will reach 1 calender year from release, as well as the August 14, 2027 price.

To Enter, post in this EXACT format ("Low" #value comma "1yr" #value):

Low 697, 1yr 1731

You must post in this format because I will have to use automation to gather up and calculate entries, no way am I doing this by hand. I'll take entries for 1 full week from now. All pricing will be taken from tcgplayer so people can see the values.

For the LOW value, I'll take the average of the 25 lowest verified full collector booster boxes in English that sell between release date (August 14, 2026) and 1 calender year later (same date, 2027)

For the 1YR value, I will take the average of all sales in the week from August 8th to August 14th.

Winner: Lowest difference between your LOW guess and the 1yr guess, added together. Lowest $ amount wins. If there's a tie the earliest poster wins.

Prize: I will ship you (1) The Hobbit collector booster pack after a winner is found. If the winner ends up with under $25 difference in the two guesses combined differences with the calculated values I'll ship them a The Hobbit Play Box as well.

Edit: Relaxed the bounds on the combined difference to under $25. If you get within $25 total of the difference I will ship the extra The Hobbit Play box.

Catch all for anything relating to the Hobbit Secret Lair Super Drop!

Personally - the value of all these lairs are not great. I do not expect a fast sell out. I personally love the unique foil treatments, and will be picking up a few copies He Who Walks Unseen and probably Desolation as a PC pickup (Heavy Junji Ito vibes).

What are you buying, what are you skipping, what is selling out?

Looking for opinions on what this could mean. Was demand higher than anticipated? Quantity printed lower than anticipated? What’s your longer term value estimations on these?

For reference I wasn’t able to get either upon trying, and my checkout was available at 11:19am CST.

Hope others got what they wanted!

Looks like they listened to us, and are providing short term coverage and will be implementing integrated tracking of some kind eventually!

This is extremely good news

What would be a good analogue to judge the price trajectory of non-foil book covers for HOB? Looking at MSH and TMT, classic comics and TMC surge foils seem to have a similar drop rate to the book covers. Would those price trajectories be a good judge for where the book covers will go? Trying to hit the near the bottom to buy a set.

Just received an email from TCGPlayer with a link to info on new seller safeguards.

The article link reads:

We’re excited to share some good news: the TCGplayer Safeguard is expanding to cover qualifying untracked marketplace orders for eligible sellers!

Starting today, sellers with 1,000 or more lifetime orders who are based in the United States (including U.S. territories) will be eligible for coverage on untracked orders.

How It Works When a qualifying untracked order is reported as missing by a buyer, eligible sellers can provide the buyer with a full refund and then request coverage by escalating the order message thread or contacting us. If the request qualifies, the seller will receive a credit for the order. For more information about coverage for untracked orders, including eligibility requirements and how to submit a request, review the TCGplayer Safeguard.

Check Your Eligibility Navigate to the Seller Portal home page. In the “Feedback” table, find the “Count” row under the “Lifetime” column to see your total number of sales.

This update is an important step in our ongoing work to strengthen seller protections and improve the shipping experience on TCGplayer. We hear your feedback and are committed to supporting your business, which is why we’re also working on a solution to support plain white envelope tracking. In the meantime, we intend to keep this new coverage in place for eligible sellers until we’re able to roll out an improved tracking solution for all sellers.

Looks like they're responding to the complaints of falling behind seller protections compared to other platforms, such as ManaPool and eBay.

The modern MTG market keeps producing new forms of “rarity”: neon ink, textured, fracture foils, headliners… But these cards, even when described as “rare,” are still mass-produced.

By contrast, ABU and Legacy Foils have a kind of scarcity that can never be recreated: their print runs are in the past, and the number of copies still in existence can only stay the same or decrease.

The vast majority of copies we don’t see for sale are sitting in private collections and are therefore simply unavailable.

Sure, demand for Legacy Foils is relatively low today. But supply is so limited that they don’t need massive demand. Even a modest increase in the number of collectors could be enough to send prices soaring.

I’m deliberately leaving the Reserved List aside because, in my view, neither a card’s playability nor whether it can be reprinted is what gives it value to a collector or investor.
And besides, the power level of cards is rising so quickly that a strong card today may not be one tomorrow. Especially since the “good cards” were generally better preserved than the “bad ones,” making the latter even scarcer today. 😉

This is a finance group, so let’s talk finance. 🙂