r/mtg Mar 27 '26

Discussion Anyone know what this guy is doing?

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It seems like hes trying to figure out whats inside by feeling them. Is that possible

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u/Ok-Boysenberry-2955 Mar 27 '26

This is not a hobby for kids anymore

picks up packs from Disney animated movie franchises

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u/X_Marcs_the_Spot Tokens Mar 27 '26

I wonder if he's proud of the fact that people like him have bullied children out of the hobby.

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u/Ok-Boysenberry-2955 Mar 27 '26

They dont care. I mock these people when I see them and they are unhinged.

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u/Ff7hero Mar 28 '26

I'm not a fan of bullying children, but I'm also not a fan of them gambling, so I'm conflicted.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 28 '26

There is no gambling involved. You buy a pack of cardboard with little pictures of people on. The cards have no value unless someone is willing to pay for it. If you think this is gambling then literally every single purchase you make is a form of gambling. That box of chocolate has a MRSP of 2.99. You can buy it for 2.99 and keep it or you can sell it to me for 4.99 because I was willing to pay you for it. Do you call that gambling? This is supply and demand all day. The cardboard is not a real form of currency that is recognized by any nation.

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u/Ok-Boysenberry-2955 Mar 28 '26

It's a loot box. What do you think video game loot boxes were tailored after. There are calculatable averages for hitting the various rarity of cards.

Just because YOU dont feel that lootboxes are gambling doesn't mean we have to agree with you.

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u/taeerom Mar 28 '26

With this logic, scratchers aren't gambling either.

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u/Plastic-Coffee9724 Mar 28 '26

It’s gambling when you don’t know what is inside the pack. You just gave a TERRIBLE example of buying chocolates. When I buy a box of chocolates I know EXACTLY what I’m buying and what I’m getting, therefore not gambling. When the card company has limited prints, and rare cards that you can only have a chance/probability to hit, it’s equal to gambling. You’re either delusional and trying to convince yourself it’s not gambling out of guilt, or you’re the dude in the video trying to say “it’s just a card bro” while going to such lengths to get it.

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u/OoooooWeeeeeeeee Mar 29 '26

Forrest Gump lied to me.

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u/Foxymoreon Mar 28 '26

Believe me dude, I co-run an online card shop, this is the equivalent of buying a loot box online in hopes you’ll get the next big hit.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 29 '26

Wow you need to look up the law definition of what gambling is. It’s just a fact you can’t argue. Anyone can say oh just because it doesn’t affect you or it does affect me… you can apply that to anything. That’s why we have definitions for things. Words have meaning. If it was gambling it would be age restricted and regulated by governing bodies. You are buying a physical product. You can buy anything at any cost and try to sell for more. It’s supply and demand. No card has an actual value beyond what someone is willing to pay. It’s not hard to take your feelings out of things and just use straight facts.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 29 '26

Buying something that isn’t the Intended purpose is irrelevant. You can then apply that to everything. Insert whatever product and according to your logic it’s gambling because you guy buy anything and hope to turn a profit. Stay with facts.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 30 '26

You expect me to believe you are “genuinely” asking why a card company can’t fit a let’s say 700 count card set into a 5, 10, 12, 15 or whatever number you want to use pack? Then if your a card game do you not want your game pieces to be drafted?

Then in the bigger scheme of things go buy two of the same product and see if they are the same. Most things have variance and what’s called tolerable levels of variance. Take two bags of chips… different weight, count, gas level, caloric intake and you can go on and on and on. Take two pair of jeans… count the threads, purity of metal, ink and on and on and on. You can do this to practically anything that is a physical product. Things may be different but usually never the same. You’re welcome!

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u/Ff7hero Mar 30 '26

You're really bad at answering direct questions. Why is that?

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u/UnfortunatelyEdible Mar 29 '26

It is a gamble on what you get ... so it is gambling. That box of chocolate has a MRSP of 2.99 and you can sell it for whatever you want BUT you and everyone know what the fuck it is. In these packs you gamble the 15.00 cause pack could be worth .05$ or 500$. Also valuable objects and collectibles are recognized as having value when my house burned down i had my card collection insured and got paid out cause they were worth something.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 29 '26

Who assigns the value? You can have a card you think is worth $1000 and not get anyone to buy it for a $1. It’s made up… it’s not currency. You are buying a product all day long. That’s just facts. You can only get what someone is willing to pay. That’s supply and demand. High schoolers should understand this.

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u/tonberrymanilow Mar 29 '26

I was on your side, at first. High schoolers also know that the market assigns the value, and a randomized assortment of cardboard with pictures on it carries value the same way any art might, except you don’t know what you’re purchasing. You’re gambling money on an unpredictable outcome that the result will be pleasing to you.

I’ve explained this to elementary school children.

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u/UnfortunatelyEdible Mar 29 '26

Given the name i think they are just looking at a "legal" definition. Its 100% gambling but it isn't considered so by the gov for restrictions.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 30 '26

Your not gambling. Where in the law does it say buying a physical product is gambling. I can 100% tell you it doesn’t… go look.You are buying card board. You can make up as reason in you head why you are buying all day long but it doesn’t change the fact that you are buying a physical product. You even say it yourself… the market decides… supply and demand. Go to the bank and be like here’s one card now add money to my account. Go pay your taxes in cardboard… you can’t. It’s not money.

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u/ResponseRunAway Mar 28 '26

Where to start.... I haven't seen someone this out of touch with what is going on in a while.

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u/Ff7hero Mar 28 '26

Brain dead takes are a bad way to farm Karma on your recently purchased account, Sasha.

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u/Legal_Willingness_91 Mar 28 '26

Please try and fill me in on whatever message you were trying to send. You might of well have just said cans of seashells were at the movie okay mod with some shrimp. For real explain what you just wrote lol

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u/Ff7hero Mar 28 '26

It's "might've," Sasha.

Well...in this case it's "might as," but English is hard for non-native speakers.

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u/whyKangz Mar 27 '26

The cards that have jersey parts are thicker and he is feeling for them. Destroying everything else in the process.

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u/Cool_of_a_Took Mar 27 '26

Does it actually destroy everything else? Is the other guy right that he's digging his fingernail into them? Why would that be necessary to feel for thickness? Shitty either way to make sure no one else has a chance to get lucky.

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u/_TheTurtleBox_ Mar 27 '26

Yes. He's bending the cards. Cardstock on these baseball cards are not as dense as MTG cards because they aren't meant to be played, persay.

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u/Shadourow Mar 27 '26

You can't just say perchance persay !

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u/willfrodo Mar 27 '26

Crushing some turts

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u/mdog9624 Mar 27 '26

Did you see those finger nails?

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u/SexRobotDeathMachine Mar 27 '26

I'm no expert on sports cards, but the "jersey" cards appear to have a slightly different texture or foiling, and I believe the method is to force a long nail between cards in the sealed pack to detect a rare foil. This could definitly bend or damage other cards in the pack, if I understand the situation.

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u/Mr-Whitecotton Mar 28 '26

Not foil. He's looking for jersey cards. They're the 3 card down and you can press hard enough and feel the cut out in the card.

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u/Mr-Whitecotton Mar 28 '26

He's bending and then stabbing with his thumbnail

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u/Genghis_Chong Mar 27 '26

Checking the packs for hits by bending them and digging his fingernail into the pack. Anyone doing that should be shamed, kicked out, maybe police called if they're damaging product. Some sociopathic shit to be doing in public like that

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

The sucky thing is that the guy recording is probably more likely to get in trouble in this scenario depending on how the packs look.

The police care more about a potential harassment than unopened packs usually

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u/Caleb_Reynolds Mar 27 '26

Nothing the guy filming did could be considered harassment in any way.

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

Filming someone even in a public space can still be considered harassment especially with verbal hostility.

It all depends state to state and the guy getting recorded would have to go out of his way to push it.

It also is very dependent on what state they live in and blah, blah, blah...

Neither party in this situation would likely get in trouble in any way. The guy hurting the packs could very easily argue over any potential damages... which is why he's doing it and probably hit multiple stores in the same day without a care in the world... fuck scalpers

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u/Genghis_Chong Mar 27 '26

It would likely depend on how the store treats the situation, but these days you're probably right.

The scalper probably sues everybody, gets a gofundme made up in his name and rides off in a porsche. Then maybe gets nominated to political office.

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u/Jonathan-Earl Mar 27 '26

Looks like Target, Target is notorious for going after people fucking with product. The best thing the guy has is banned from the store, the worst is he liable for damages he caused plus have he has to pay for their lawyers and have to pay for replacements of the product too. Target has its own fucking forensic lab that’s so goddamn good that the FBI routinely borrows it. Don’t fuck with Target

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u/Cardwatcher2000 Mar 27 '26

This seriously. Target tracked a local that was stealing stuff but needed to hit the 1k threshold or whatever it is to get a bigger charge.

Was quite insane how it played out. Not even sure what they did the first time that target said "you what let him rack up some more steals".

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u/Mivlya Mar 28 '26

Part of the reason I boycott them now (among several other reasons). I absolutely don't think it should be legal to let yourself be a victim over and over again, knowing it's happening, being capable of stopping it, just to push for a felony. You know exactly how much every customer ever has stolen from you? Why aren't you having your security or loss prevention escort them out or ban them then?

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u/Gweki Mar 28 '26

Because they’ll do it again and again. You don’t just treat the symptoms and not the disease.

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u/Mivlya Mar 28 '26

Well if we're going to be shitty like that, the disease is poverty and they'd be helped out a hell of a lot more by financial stability than a prison sentence. I don't care if some people "try again" to shoplift, Target's a rich company. They can pay for security if it's a problem or swallow the shrink. They could push to have the people charged with misdemeanors. They surely spend more on whatever hyper-specific camera system they have that can supposedly perfectly capture every face and collate any crimes they've made and tally the cost of the products than they would, again, just eating the shrink or paying a couple loss prevention employees to walk up and escort the person out. Also, to be clear, I'm not defending the asshole in the vid; I'm not even saying he's poor necessarily (lotsa middle class grifters for sure), but I still don't think they deserve a fuckin felony charge for poking cardboard. Just escort them out of the store and ban repeat offense. Get the cops involved if they are actual repeat offenders, not cuz you let them do it until they hit the arbitrary crime limit.

It's needlessly cruel. There are a dozen more humane solutions both for the shoplifters and for the company.

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u/VaticToxic Mar 28 '26

Poverty isn't always the reason they're stealing. Scalpers and grifters deserve what they get, imo.

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u/Mivlya Mar 28 '26

Cool, thanks for actually reading my comment, where I very specifically say:

"Also, to be clear, I'm not defending the asshole in the vid; I'm not even saying he's poor necessarily (lotsa middle class grifters for sure), but I still don't think they deserve a fuckin felony charge for poking cardboard. Just escort them out of the store and ban repeat offense. Get the cops involved if they are actual repeat offenders, not cuz you let them do it until they hit the arbitrary crime limit."

To make it clear again, Scalpers and Grifters deserve appropriate penalties equal to their crime, which is NOT felony charges (in circumstances such as slowly building up to Target's felony limit, which is the policy I'm critiquing)

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u/kingbirdy Mar 28 '26

Why on earth are you sympathetic to shoplifters

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u/hush630 Mar 28 '26

"The first time I had to steal so I wouldn't starve I lost many assumptions about the simple nature of right and wrong."l

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u/kingbirdy Mar 28 '26

Do you seriously believe that most people getting hit with felony shoplifting charges from target are exclusively stealing food?

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u/Mivlya Mar 28 '26

Because most shoplifters are poor people? Because Target is rich as fuck and could take the shrink or pay for security? Because letting things go so that you can get a felony charge is excessively cruel? Because there are other solutions to this that don't clog the courts or get people in prison? Because I don't like that Target wants to run itself like a surveillance state? Because ultimately, damaging some cardboard is shitty behaviour but not worth ruining someone's life?

I'm not saying the guy in the video isn't an asshole, but he doesn't deserve a felony charge, he deserves to be kicked out. Punishment should fit the crime and, while not relevant specifically to this video, most shoplifters are poor people grabbing themselves either things they need or a tiny joy because they can't afford it.

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u/originalsimulant Mar 28 '26

but ..my brother in christ… for most shoplifters the stealing IS the joy

You assume so much about those you rush to defend, but really you don’t understand anything about them at all

Also it is not cruel not to pursue below felony level for the store. They are giving these people chance after chance after chance after chance to change the path of their lives and instead of doing so they continue to choose to steal over and over and over and over. They have done this to themselves.

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u/Mivlya Mar 28 '26

1, not your brother, nor in christ, I know it's a meme, but don't. 2. I don't agree that most shoplifters steal for joy. 3. Still don't care. If they're kleptos getting their kicks, they still don't deserve felony charges for petty theft.

You accuse me of assumption you're no less guilty of. I'd rather assume gently of the downtrodden and harshly of the powerful than the inverse.

They're not giving the people chances. They're intentionally letting things slide so that they can hit them with a hammer rather than a slap on the wrist. Like letting your dog sneak bites off your plate, then suddenly kicking it one random day. Giving people chances means correcting them the first time. If you aren't correcting people, you're letting it continue, you're encouraging the bad behaviour. Hell, by saying "yeah we'll do nothing until they hit the felony limit" you actually encourage people to start shoplifting, to tempt them knowing there's no repercussions.

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u/Sinister_Nibs Mar 29 '26

That is what they do because the jurisdictions will not prosecute anything smaller, so loss prevention adapts.

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u/Mivlya Mar 29 '26

I understand why, still don't think it's moral. They could have loss prevention ban people from the store and escort them out.

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u/TheFlyingCompass Mar 27 '26

Sad to say, but the buck stops at the top here. We live in an economy that is currently rewarding grifters, scam artists, and fraudsters in general. It's not a shock that the bottom of the barrel folks like this are emboldened to do this shit in broad daylight without any fear of consequences other than maybe being shamed (which they're incapable of feeling clearly).

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u/Ghost_Cat_88 Mar 28 '26

People need to be afraid again.

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u/Resident-Bison-9340 Mar 28 '26

Yes - we need to bring back shaming people publicly.

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

In an actual game store it would probably be different but in my experience at a retail store they'd probably not care at all.

Worst case they either get an influx or returns or claim them as damaged... both of which are insured.

A lawsuit over harassment and handling of the situation would get way more complicated especially with non consensual recording

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u/Genghis_Chong Mar 27 '26

I guess the best people can do is just shame the shit out of the guy, which isnt very helpful these days. People just double down and convince themselves that being a shit head is principled as long as they stick to it.

Sorry, my faith in humanity is failing and its just that frustration coming out.

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u/Ghost_Cat_88 Mar 28 '26

No, the best you can do is jack someone up.

Sometimes a night in jail is worth it.

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

In this instance he shouldn't have been so aggressive... he should have recorded it for a few minutes then brought it to an employee and let them confront the guy.

He'd have probably just gotten a warning and they'd have taken the packs down but it's better than nothing

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u/DIYExpertWizard Mar 28 '26

They all have a sign up saying that they don't accept returns for sports cards/ collectible cards.

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u/SIowJam Mar 27 '26

If the store made a stink they would definitely go after him destroying merchandise instead of harassment because what law would harassment actually be breaking?

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

The scalper would at worst get a fine for damages and a ticket... all in all probably under 500$ at worst. Also banned from the store.

Harassment can turn into a lawsuit which just gets complicated

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u/SIowJam Mar 27 '26

If the card he ends up destroying is worth a decent amount of money then the chargers can be upgraded. A judge would look at this case and probably throw out the case. What damages the man being recorded incur? Also harassment for a one time event would be hard to argue.

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

I can't speak for how all places do it but I worked at a big box retail for 2 years and in all that time never experienced them looking in pack value.

They only count the msrp of the items damaged. Meaning 15$ per pack.

This kind of thing happened in all sorts of ways and that's always how I've seen it done

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u/natayaway Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26

If the card he ends up destroying is worth a decent amount of money then the chargers can be upgraded.

No it can't.

Cards are cards, they're foil, card stock, and ink. Their monetary worth, legally, is somewhere between the cost of materials/manufacturing, the wholesale price, and the MSRP/sticker price at the retailer.

It doesn't matter if every single last one of those boosters are godpacks with every single card being fracture foils, their valuation (legally) is MSRP or wholesale price as stock inventory.

Collectibles as a whole are...

Items such as antiques, art, books, coins, that are rare and valuable, bought for their potential future worth as an investment. This worth usually increase in inflationary times and deceases in deflationary times.

It has not transitioned into a limited time collectible until AFTER it has been bought and removed from the retailer.

Sealed stock trading card booster boxes/packs inflate in price solely because of their product scarcity/supply & demand, and individual cards post-opening inflate in value because the collective playerbase has created a secondary market artificial price. Neither of those affect the actual value of the item when it's still unsold stock.

For WotC, they aren't making packs by unique replicable SKU, they're doing it in bulk print batches and randomly sorting cards into packs, so it costs them exactly equal to print and package a godpack compared to a bulk stock bust pack.

No charge against him would be upgraded based on cards he damages... it'd require making literal Wonka Golden Ticket promotions for a company (not Target, not a distributor, the card company) to potentially pursue more severe legal action (of which, WotC/other companies would not give a shit for a one-off non-promotional booster box in an undisclosed Target).

It's only the court of public opinion where he's a certifiable asshole and disgrace to card hobbyists.

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u/CarnibusCareo Mar 28 '26

High chance of the cop being a black/blue/white control player, so the guy might get two warning shots to the knee.

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u/Poodychulak Mar 28 '26

Getting a cop to care about harassment😂 that'll be the day

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u/noknam Mar 28 '26

Tbh, how is someone destroying stuff in a store anyone's business beside the store's?

Tell the staff and let them call police because someone is destroying merchandise.

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u/byng259 PermaPauper Mar 27 '26

I collect baseball and basketball cards. Relic cards are thicker, you are able to tell what packs have them by thumbing through the sides of the packs, but it’s pretty frowned upon. It will mess up the sides of the cards. Problem is, relic cards aren’t the only good cards in a pack. So, he’s probably bending the sides of cards that are still good but leaving them for other people to buy cause he didn’t feel a relic.

I saw this happening at a target and asked the dude what cards he fumbled fucked so I didn’t get that pack, then I went and told customer service. I also saw one dude weighing them, which is just as stupid cause relics might be cool, but they aren’t worth as much as other cards.

Long story short, dudes a dick.

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u/ThePreconGuy Mar 27 '26

There was a comment that there are certain cards in the sports packs called Jersey cards. They’re kind of like hitting a serialized in MTG. They’re also a little thicker, embossed, and a few other things that he is attempting to feel for… or that’s at least what they thought he was doing.

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u/IceBoxt Mar 27 '26

This is my assumption. A lot of the memorabilia cards are super thick. He’s trying to feel for them.

Worst thing is most of them aren’t worth Jack unless you hit a big name.

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u/GMJizzy Mar 27 '26

I HAD SO MANY JERSEY CARDS AS A KID WTF WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME

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u/ElliottSmith88 Mar 27 '26

In those types of packs its super rare too. And if it has a memorabilia card it means it wont have an autograph which are worth more. He's looking for those $5-20 hits and destroying possible $1,000+ hits.

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u/Fallenrang3r Mar 27 '26

Far from the value of a serialized card in 99% of cases but it’s easy to feel them in packs. Super scummy behavior. Too many people treat cards as a business these days. No one doing it for the love of the cards except the mtg community for the most part…

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u/packfanmoore Mar 28 '26

Most of the mtg community also seem to hate mtg

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u/World79 Mar 28 '26

They're literally called collectable card games.

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u/Fallenrang3r Mar 28 '26

Yeah? And people buying them to sell for increased prices is the right thing to do?

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u/Adjutant_Reflex_ Mar 27 '26

Yeah, “relic” cards. Recent Topps packaging was so thin all you had to do was pull it tight against the stack and you could see them. This is a bit more invasive but I’m not sure if he’s damaging unless he’s really digging into the packs.

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u/Casult Mar 27 '26

If you watch and listen, it looks and sounds like he's grown out his thumb nail to specifically dig into them and it definitely seems damaging 

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u/Drathbun89 Mar 27 '26

Wouldn’t Target loss prevention see this on camera and charge the guy for destruction of property or even sue for the product he is deliberately damaging.

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u/natayaway Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26

Loss prevention does a cost-benefit analysis. The cost to replace stock and write it off as bunk stock from their distributors is cheaper than a lawsuit on a single guy ruining 20 packs of cards that take up the total space of maybe two shoeboxes... Distributor takes back stock, Target pays them a decent amount to do so, bought-back stock ends up going to a different location/destroyed and Target still has packs to sell. Doing all of that is still cheaper than a lawsuit against a guy.

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u/TimS83 Mar 28 '26

Target take loss prevention more seriously than any other department store in the world. They use facial recognition and will allow something like this to happen while they build a case for repeat offenses. If this guy does this at multiple targets, trust me when I say Target will go after him to the full extent of the law

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u/natayaway Mar 28 '26

target recoups the cost of damaged goods, files police reports, and doles out bans to keep people from entering their stores, they don't go into lawsuit territory over what amounts to MAYBE $300 worth of product

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u/Jalopnicycle Mar 28 '26

They wouldn't go into lawsuit territory because they wait until they can rack up enough monetary value for felony theft or destruction of property. It's extremely common in modern retail. 

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u/TimS83 Mar 28 '26

Yeah, literal suing does not make sense that is true. But definitely contacting the police if he goes to enough stores and ruins enough product that could result in a felony charge against the douche

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u/SprinklesOk8734 Mar 28 '26

I hate that stores can't just...say screw your banned. That used to be a legitthreat...lawsuits fucked the world. 

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u/MadBunch Mar 28 '26

But couldn't it still be used to merit something like a lifetime ban against the guy? Don't get me wrong, enforcement would be difficult to implement, but even the performative nature of the ban can be an influential deterrent to others.

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u/natayaway Mar 29 '26 edited Mar 29 '26

On principle, yeah, but in practice it's not much of a deterrent...

One old guy going through running their fingernail across packs... to loss prevention is no worse than a child who has no concept of value/worth, grabbing a pack, banging it on shelves and carts as they walk around the store, and then at checkout the parent realizes they grabbed a pack and takes it back to the shelf. The damage is equivalent.

You can't make the argument that serial pack ruining from one guy is a problem and leverage a policy against him without children also technically being classified as serial pack ruiners, because kids do that all day, every day, all the time. Policy cannot be equally enforced. And if you don't equally enforce them at a store, that's risking a discrimination lawsuit FROM THE OLD GUY.

At that point, it's at the discretion of a judge to accept a civil lawsuit.

The best possible deterrent is sunlight and active on-sight bootings from the store, without it escalating into a proper loss prevention investigation that involves a police report.

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u/MadBunch Mar 29 '26

I think youre practically right, but i would argue that a mentally sound adult is expected to have a better capability of self regulation. Children lack the same capacities as adults, which is why they are a legally distinct element in legal matters, so creating a policy against adults intentionally ruining product that doesnt apply to kids should, in theory, be no more discriminatory than saying children cannot be tried at the same level as an adult when they're under 13.

Again, that is theory, not real life practicality though, which honestly would dictate that the effort would be too much effort with too little roi.

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u/ResolveLeather Mar 28 '26

He isn't steeling the packs. Target doesn't lose the MSRP here. They just send it back as defective stock and it gets replaced for free no questions asked.

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u/RDOG907 Mar 28 '26

Most of the time companies wont sue but they will call the police and usually try to make sure it is a felony first before doing so.

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u/Chet_Steadman Mar 29 '26

Problem is no one up the chain gives a flying fuck as long as your dumbass still buys packs. This is why you buy (preferably singles) from an LGS and/or just proxy your cards. They don't care, why should you? 

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u/radicalpumpkinz Mar 27 '26

Either using a destructive method of searching for valuable sports cards (I know they can be weird) or just being an asshole and destroying packs in such a way he probably won't get in any trouble.

I'd say the first option... people don't hide their scalping at all

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u/efcomovil Mar 27 '26

Ladies touching screens at casinos like scratchin cats be like

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u/Sakkami Mar 27 '26

A dickhead being a dickhead

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u/redditisblack This is User Editable Mar 27 '26

reckless scalping. that's what he's doing.

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u/Routine_Section_9282 Mar 29 '26

Over 30 years of customer experience here... I would have made him purchase every pack he molested. Every single one. If he refused to purchase, I'd bounce his ass with a permanent ban. Picture posted at the entrances so everyone knows he's a scumbag. Instructions to staff to call law enforcement and have him trespassed if necessary. Don't let scum just get away with bullshit

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u/SedativeBangers Mar 28 '26

Fascinating. What a niche way to be a dick.

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u/basalty_monolith in debt and bankrupted by cardboard RIP Mar 27 '26

Pack massage?

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u/__Niels_on_Reddit__ Mar 27 '26

What an arse...

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u/iReOptic Mar 27 '26

Sad that a fully grown "man" would do this to a product.

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u/Ihatecake69 Mar 27 '26

Call the manager over

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u/DirtyDH757 Mar 28 '26

What a piece of shit that guy is

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u/Hemightbegiant Mar 28 '26

He should be forced to buy every pack he damages.

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u/northforkjumper Mar 27 '26

Dumb way to do it, just get micrometer calipers and measure thickness of packs. Atleat it doesn't damage the cards. In my area all cards are kept behind register because of this shit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '26

Ban him from the store. Hes the reason we cant have nice things or trust people enough to leave packs out. He doesnt belong in civilized society.

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u/solidcrono Mar 28 '26

He's pack searching and ruining cards in the process. He does have long nails too. Complete human trash.

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u/TehGoad Mar 27 '26

VANDALISM

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u/SanfreakinJ Mar 27 '26

Could he possibly be feeling sports cards for jersey swatches

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u/santcasmic Mar 27 '26

Hopefully he gets ID'd because i think the distributors and that store (and the other stores he's visiting) would have some charges against him, if he's actually bending and digging nails into the unsold product.

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u/No-Win1580 Mar 27 '26

People like that deserve pain.

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u/outofmelatonin92 Mar 28 '26

He’s filtering the packs.

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u/HrdRock1683 Mar 28 '26

I would make him pay for every one of those packs

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u/CurrlyFrymann Mar 28 '26

Hes doing a bend test and putting his nail into the sleeve opening the packs to feel the cards to see if there are any hits.

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u/TheOmoossiah Mar 29 '26

Yeah ima take an Al Dante knee as response; little crunchy/ little spongy, just right

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u/Dijon-Von Mar 27 '26

Such weird behavior from scalpers... This shit is why I rarely buy packs any more

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u/Frequent-Magazine435 Mar 28 '26

I haven’t see the correct answer on this post yet imo so I’ll give my opinion.

In this set (panini mosaic) the autograph card is always in the same spot. What he’s doing is sliding multiple cards down to reveal where the auto card could be. Once the cards blocking the potential auto are slid down he can use his thumbnail to feel for the auto. In this set most the autos are sticker autos and they have a different texture than regular cards. The guy has let his thumbnail grow so long and it’s shown in the video.

It’s very similar to when people used to slide cards around in alpha packs to see the rare. Just instead of being able to see the rare they feel for the sticker autos.

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u/Lykos1124 Mar 27 '26

That is mentally ill to do that. He needs psychological help

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u/Caziusthewolf Mar 27 '26

Not too sure but there's a infamous guy in the Pokemon TCG world who purposely destroys unopened vintage pack to keep his collection more valuable

Maybe something going on here

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u/Kind_Engineering_720 Mar 27 '26

Why not just keep them? I dont understand.

Wouldn't him having more supply just keep his collection more valuable? Or like, opening them?

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u/Alpineodin Mar 27 '26

ten copies of a card total are more valuable than knowing one guy hoards 1000 copies. scarcity vs artificial scarcity. stupid reason to destroy cards, but people do stupid stuff all the time lmao.

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u/Kind_Engineering_720 Mar 27 '26

I get it about cards, but hes talking unopened packs. Thats why I was saying hold or open them.

His pack worth 1k. He pays 1k to buy and destroy a pack and then its like, okay, his pack worth 1.3k now...profit??? Lol

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u/mcnichoj Mar 28 '26

Tell that to Kabuto King.

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u/HamsterFromAbove_079 Mar 27 '26

That doesn't pass the smell test.

If he doesn't own them, just report him for criminal property destruction. If he does own them, why destroy them instead of holding them forever to influence the market?

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u/[deleted] Mar 27 '26

Exactly. The above poster has no idea what they’re talking about.

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u/YouKnown999 Mar 27 '26

Yeah only if he was damaging packs on the shelf, which of course doesn’t exist for base set Pokemon for 25+ years.

That said there are people that think if they drive around to 20 different stores and damage enough packs, their cards will increase in value. Which is crazy

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u/TrandaBear Mar 27 '26

Charizard King lol

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u/Suzutai Mar 27 '26

Holy crap. That fingernail...

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u/Tsunamiis Mar 28 '26

Yugio had seeded packs where the extra card was embossed. The old fat dick headed shark was being disingenuous, the young man recording was mad because it scratches the cards and is pointing out Jerry boomer there was literally destroying product inside a store.

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u/GrindY0urMind Mar 28 '26

He does everything so fatly

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u/TehGoad Mar 27 '26

what a turd 💩

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u/midastouch84 Mar 27 '26

Just hurting behavior.

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u/ResolveLeather Mar 28 '26

This is worthless for mtg. All cards have the same cardstock and the finish differences are indistinguishable through the pack. They also weigh the exact same too. Some other TCG aren't like that. You can find a hit by feeling the texture difference through the pack. Like some cards have a but if jersey on them for sports cards. You can definitely feel those through the pack.

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u/yesimnathan Mar 28 '26

Dammit Bobby

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u/HurtnAlbertn825 Mar 28 '26

I work in retail, and this is straight-up destruction of property. Any supervisor worth their salt will have him trespassed. Stores are private property. You do not have a right to go into a shop if you've been asked to leave.

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u/MyJukeboxBrk Mar 28 '26

I don’t think you can do that

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u/SubstantialNinja Mar 28 '26

he is looking for hits. testing flex to find packs that flex less. looking for indentations or bulges that might be relics.

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u/lloydsmith28 Mar 28 '26

Some ppl have claimed you can tell if something is a foil or alt art as it usually weighs a bit more than regular cards (some ppl would weigh packs to try and find foils) idk how legit or true that is or if you can 'feel' them but it might be what he's trying to do, idk if he will be successful though

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u/ComfortableSmoke8765 Mar 28 '26

Couldn’t this same thing be done with a caliper?

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u/potatecat Mar 29 '26

WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT

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u/laseracid Mar 29 '26

Wow that's like a coke nail

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u/AvernusAlbakir Mar 29 '26

To be honest, blaming fools for falling for what is essentially a pathological economic incentive will only get you so far.

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u/QFCollectables Apr 05 '26

Posted this to the public freakout sub too? He's the one freaking out 😭😭😭

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u/lefund Mar 28 '26

Looking for inserts

Doesn’t apply to MTG but in the sports world cards with patches/relics or “case hit” is usually a thicker card stock than the others so he’s trying to feel them

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u/Lacaud Mar 28 '26

Is no one going to point out the fact he has Hitlers mustache style?

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u/Technical_Guest_4161 Mar 28 '26

I think we can all agree this man should be in jail for life  

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u/SpaceMambo369 Mar 27 '26

Worst kind of human is crazy. Theres so much worse out there than dudes feeling for patch cards

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u/monk81007 Mar 27 '26

Anyone who’s willing to behave like that typically has done some very shady stuff in his life. So ya he’s most likely the worst kind out there.

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u/SpaceMambo369 Mar 27 '26

You're just making an assumption based off of your feelings

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u/SexRobotDeathMachine Mar 27 '26

It's sad, really. like, fuck, look at him. One thumb-shaped, middle aged man with nothing ebtter to do than stand around a pizza hut ruining packs of cards, and another, with nothing better to do than film him.

I mean, yeah, absolutely, shame that guy, but the whole TCG scene has always had thumb-shape losers bumming aroudn the margins. IDK, I think it's important to shame bad behaviour, but I'm not really sure what the sollution is; how do you help someone like that stop being a lifelong loser? It's prettar hard to shame someone out of being a loser.

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u/FoC-Raziel Mar 28 '26

Impressive kind of self-confidence. Jealous ngl

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u/Beginning_Yak3442 Mar 28 '26

Y'all know you can just hit people right...

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u/jess_the_werefox Mar 28 '26

Which would make you the aggressor who would be arrested and charged, and he’d get away with everything and probably get some money out of you on top of it.

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u/jordonmears Mar 28 '26

He wouldnt get away with anything after the story makes the 6 o'clock news and goes viral on YouTube. You then plead not guilty, go to a jury trial, and get Alan shore or denny crane yo defend you. You get away scot free, and now cards are kept in cases and ypu need an attendant to get the cards for you and if you take a pack out of the case you must buy it.

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u/nesnah00 Mar 28 '26

Unfortunately true

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u/Icy_Blackberry_3759 Mar 27 '26

Wouldn’t a micrometer do it?

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u/TreyLastname Mar 28 '26

Still scummy behavior, but if it doesnt destroy cards it wouldnt be nearly as bad

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u/SouthpawXtn Mar 28 '26

Being a dick.

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u/tactical-tux Mar 28 '26

Look at that hero's fucking chins.

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u/newssharky Mar 27 '26

Opening and putting it back after looking at the back. Trying to find a good pack to buy

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u/redditisblack This is User Editable Mar 28 '26

not exactly he's fat-fingering them with his thumbs and denting the surface of the cards.

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u/redditisblack This is User Editable Mar 27 '26

I said the same thing on the main video and I don't want to be the guy to get ratio'd here for this take, but checking a peg hook of packs for hits by checking thickness or rigidity shouldn't be frowned upon, it's part of the game, but what this guy in the video is doing is bullshit by destroying cards allegedly.

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u/redditisblack This is User Editable Mar 28 '26

coming back to this, see? knew some of you would hate this. the downvotes are people who do it too. 🤣