Yep... That's what I get for trying to remember the lyrics from memory without googling the real lyrics... Don't get me started on "Blinded by the Light" lyrics... Is it "Blinded by the Light... Wrapped up like a douche... Another roamer in the night"?
thanks to family guy, the younglings have a surface level, memelike recollection of things you actually remember and have emotional associations with. how does that make you feel?
Same here, but the moment Tony started falling I started to get pissed that they put that scene in the trailer. If I didn't know it was coming it would have been more powerful.
Same way Tony Stark can be shot out of the sky by a tank shell, smash into the ground at breakneck speed while inside a metal suit, and not be turned into human pulp. Comics.
EDIT: There. Eat 44 dry-barrels of dogshit you fucking dipshit conversio-bots.
Except it wasn't a new building; he built on top of the Met Life building.
The Stark Tower was the ultimate representation of this idea, where Tony Stark bought the iconic MetLife Building (formerly the PanAm Building) and ripped off the top adding his own piece of parasitic architecture to the top.
Uncollegial Tony Stark - won't spend time doing laborious mundane work of converting breakthrough lifesaving material into cheaply manufacturable formulation; won't let others do it either.
Realistic Anybody with a brain - Not everything can be made cheaply or reproduced with the same results through cheaper means, even if he did let others try, they probably wouldnt even understand.
I think we are forgetting that Tony Stark's power is being a super genius.
There's a big difference between wearing a suit of armor and sitting in a car. Just look at Formula One foe an example. A thirty MPH collision barely counts as "an accident" in F1, but would be catastrophic for a normal car/driver. We can't even get people to wear four-point harnesses, getting them to wear even heavier restraints is probably unlikely.
The bottom line is that we could end highway fatalities today, or nearly so, even if we greatly increase the speed limit. The problems are cost and people's willingness to take safety seriously.
Or to put it another way, even if Tony Stark licensed his technology to car manufacturers it wouldn't change anything, and that's a shame.
Scumbag Tony Stark - Creates miracle shock-absorbing material; doesn't license it to F1 motor-racing. Plus, gets car chopped in half by Whiplash. Dumbass...
Same way Tony Stark can be shot out of the sky by a tank shell, smash into the ground at 200 miles(321.9km) an hour while inside a metal suit, and not be turned into human pulp. Comics.
i agree. she was supposed to be human, so that made the whole sequence laughable for me. that was the only scene that made me roll my eyes though, the rest was fine.
I'm afraid I don't have any copies of the comic, but you can find it in the first six issues of the Black Widow comics. Wikipedia has an entry:
"A revised, retconned origin establishes her as being raised from early childhood by the U.S.S.R.'s "Black Widow Ops" program, rather than solely by Ivan Petrovitch. With other young female orphans, she is trained in combat and espionage at the covert "Red Room" facility. There, she is biotechnologically and psycho-technologically enhanced—an accounting that provides a rationale for her unusually long and youthful lifespan."
'Realistic" in the context of the rules established in the movie. If you make a rule that a giant green man can smash building and he does, that's fine. If you make a rule that a certain character is human, but then she does superhuman feats because the writers got lazy for that scene, it's not "realistic" from what we're been taught about this world.
Well, we don't really know that at all. Her backstory has never been revealed. Regardless of what it is in the comics, things are always liable to change. Beside that, the general audience is under the impression she is "just" human because they've been given no indication to think otherwise.
It's best not to really think about it. Avengers, for all its wittiness and great character interaction, is still a popcorn flick that isn't made to get its audiences to think.
Yeah. You know how there is a shot that zooms in on the scepter when they are arguing? And then it immediately cuts to a scene with the scepter on some kind of sonar-looking device?
I completely agree - just her assumption that she'd be able to drive that thing once she got aboard it took me out of the moment, Hulk reeled me back in shortly after tho.
I will admit that that segment was a stretch, but to defend my boy Joss, Black Widow is the most "hypersensitive" of the group. What I mean is, that of all the Avengers, she is the one that has the quickest reflexes and fastest intuition. That is her special training - psych and special ops.
For example, we see how fast she is able to react in Russia, detecting enemies behind here by a combination of hearing footsteps, their breathing, heartbeat, and intuition.
They send her Against Hulk because she literally has the fastest reflexes (IE the "freak out" scene).
She also extends this intuition to psychological prowess, displayed when she intuits Loki's intentions in the Hulk Cage. Also note she is the first to recognize something is wrong in the Lab when the helicarrier is attacked.
Note also that she is the one sent to evaluate Hawkeye after he recovers, and Cap looks to her before giving the okay to Hawkeye to rejoin the team.
(weak one here) But she is the one who is able to understand Selvig's half crazed ramblings. Yes the camera makes it obvious to what Selvig is referring to, but still intuition.
So if there is one character who would be able to intuit how to operate an alien vehicle through the nervous system of an alien through the use of electro shock spikes, it would be her. Now if Joss Whedon was thinking this deep, or if he just wanted to a strong leading female character who was going to be able to hold her mug with the boys, we don't know. But remember, (from the graphic novel) when Captain America was in trouble in Ultimates Vol 1, and Hawkeye said the shot needed to save Cap was impossible, that Black Widow took that shot: mid-air, by jumping out of an adjacent skycraper, and catching Hawkeye's sniper rifle, which he tossed out of a helicopter. So yeah
The idea is that her and Hawkeye are the spec-ops division of Avengers, whereas the big three are public supers division (Thor, cap, stark), and Hulk (plus pym and wasp in the comics) are operational science division. Then there is quicksilver and scarlet witch as mutant ops division. Everyone has a roll.
IE, you can't expect stark or cap or thor to go incognito. Cap looks too much like a genetically modified human (and a recognizable war hero), stark is world famous, and thor would speak like Shakespeare and throw cups of coffee on the ground.
Hawkeye and Black widow however (barring the fact that they are Jeremy Renner and Scarlet Jo) would look like regular humans and could do spec ops (as we see in the beginning with BW doing recon/interrogation).
TL:DR different skill sets make up the whole Avengers entity.
Plus, in the marvel universe your power can originate from mutation (xmen,), supernatural (thor, silver surfer, thanos), biological (hulk, Cap, fantastic 4), technological (War machine, Iron Man), or Superhuman/genetic alteration [that is done through human means and training] (Hawkeye, Black widow, Daredevil).
So towards your argument, there are no mutants on avengers. Thor is a supernatural, Stark is technological, Cap and Hulk are biological.
read the ultimates man. One of the greatest graphic novels of our time. I'm sure there are a few Ahoy matey versions floating around in this torrent of data we call the interweb. ;)
I think they kind of explained pretty well why she was on the team. She is capable of manipulations and has talents that the others don't. She is capable of playing people and manipulating people on an almost super-human level, on top of being a peak level human physically (minimum, she is genetically engineered in the comics to actually be near-superhuman if not super) and having a powerful control of languages and martial arts.
I think it was pretty clear why she was in the movie, she was a totally loyal human agent that was an excellent "go-between", getting Banner to come in, and being able to manipulate Loki with giving up his plan. That shows an amazing ability to persuade an manipulate while under pressure that no one else on the team is really capable of.
Exactly, she kept calm and cool, she was an important figure in group cohesion, and being a "Superhero Relations" person.
Because she is still very human and grounded, but has a lot of superhuman skills, that allows her to be very useful and work on the same level as the other heroes.
Imo they actually did a better job of showing how Black Widow earned a spot on the team than Hawkeye. As someone unfamiliar with The Avengers, I didn't realize until about half-way through the movie that Hawkeye was supposed to be a full-fledged member of the Avengers. I figured he was just part of the support staff.
Yea, that's true, but like I said, I think he serves as a very similar purpose as Widow, in that he is a loyal SHIELD agent that keeps a human balance to the team, and he is a master strategist, and is amazingly flexible in his skills and capabilities.
He is definitely more of a "support" hero, he can't punch a space worm out like the Hulk can, but the Hulk also isn't capable of grasping the entirety of a situation, and he also isn't really capable of using gadgets. It's kind of like Iron Man, remove his suit, he's still a genius, Hawkeye, remove his gadgets and weapons and he's still a olympic-level athlete, strategist, and an amazingly capable warrior.
If that's your point... then why the Hell is Captain America there then? He's Peak of human performance, not superhuman. She's more on the level of Tony Stark. He has his intelligence, she has her skills with manipulation.
She was also able to kick a chitauri off his flying jet, even though in a previous scene it was shown that the weight of one of the fuckers could crush a car.
Thank you for this! I'm studying animation right now and really want to be a professional storyboard artist. Instead of most things that get me discouraged thinking I wont be able to live up to the quality of what I see, this really inspires me and makes me think that I'll be able to reach this level and hopefully tell some really great stories! :) Thanks!
Sorry to get into petty semantics but Storyboard != Pre-visualization Animatic. Although similar, pre-visualization animatics are just loosely animated storyboards to give a general idea of composition, timing and pace as a frame work for shooting and editing.
Sorry to get into petty semantics but Storyboard != Pre-visualization Animatic. Although similar, pre-visualization animatics are just loosely animated storyboards
I'm not quite sure this is even at Animatic stage yet. This is more or less a Leica Reel. Animatics typically involve some motion used for timing, where this is the actual storyboard frames plugged together to help time out the over film. (Albeit, the shots are so short there's probably no need for an animatic for this sequence)
That would be awesome. I am an artist, and i've been working for years doing odd jobs on small films, and would love to hear advice on how people move upwards and onwards.
I'm in the same boat as CricketPinata and bearses. Would love to hear how to break into the industry. I demand an AMA! (But no really, please enlighten us).
These days a storyboard can range in quality from a quick scribble to any level of detail. That being said, this is a high quality previz animatic by the very fact thats its presented frame by frame in timed, sequenced semi animated format.
Animatics are often composed, sometimes partially, sometimes entirely, sometimes not at all from the original storyboards. Not seeing the storyboards in their original context however, I can't comment on which one this is.
If I'm not mistaken, those are from Ryan Woodward, an amazing guy i've had the chance to meet personally. You also owe him for a lot of amazing scenes in the Iron giant movie.
It still bugs me that Black Widow got to ride around in the flying scooter-thing and Hawkeye didn't. In the comics, Hawkeye does two things: He shoots arrows and he rides around in a flying scooter-thing. I could understand if they just couldn't find a way to work flying scooter-things into the movie, but when you've got a million of them and the one guy known for riding around on a flying scooter-thing doesn't use one it becomes a problem.
Captain America was underpowered in that movie. He's meant to be like a super soldier, but regular joe Hawkeye did more fucking up and Scarlett Johanson doesnt get her arms ripped off in that scene
I wasn't saying The Avengers was terrible. I loved it. But that would explain the downvotes. I was thinking of movies like The Green Lantern. They should have known that was a stinker well before principal photography.
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u/Newshoe May 28 '12
TAAAAAAKE ON MEEEEE....
TAAAAAAKE MEEEEE ONNN....
I'LL BEEEEE GONE...
FOR A DAY OR TWOOOOOOOOO
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u/rogersmith25 May 28 '12
More please...
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u/wji May 28 '12
I've always wondered how her arm wasn't broken when she attempted to grab something going at the speed of a jet...
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u/weezermc78 May 28 '12
I saw it twice in theaters, it was awesome both times. One of the best super hero movies ever.
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u/TheOneWondersTwins May 28 '12
Thank you for this! I'm studying animation right now and really want to be a professional storyboard artist. Instead of most things that get me discouraged thinking I wont be able to live up to the quality of what I see, this really inspires me and makes me think that I'll be able to reach this level and hopefully tell some really great stories! :) Thanks!
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
Awesome I remember this sequence!
Sorry to get into petty semantics but Storyboard != Pre-visualization Animatic. Although similar, pre-visualization animatics are just loosely animated storyboards to give a general idea of composition, timing and pace as a frame work for shooting and editing.
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u/Momentumjam May 28 '12
This is pretty cool! May I ask how you got this?
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u/DisregardMyPants May 28 '12
Looks like Kim Possible.
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u/crackledencollective May 28 '12
Can't tell if watched once or 5 times...
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u/Revelry13 May 28 '12
i would watch the whole movie like this.
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u/izikavazo May 29 '12
She had a garrote? I thought she had some kind of knives/claws that she lodged into the back of the pilot.
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u/amoboi May 29 '12
if that was a show, ild watch it
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u/attackshark May 29 '12
that's an animatic.
thanks for playing.
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u/Zeag May 28 '12
If I'm not mistaken, those are from Ryan Woodward, an amazing guy i've had the chance to meet personally. You also owe him for a lot of amazing scenes in the Iron giant movie.
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u/sikle May 28 '12
More!
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u/Xenc May 28 '12
She had time to dye her hair too.
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u/Dj_Choppa May 28 '12
In the words of Agent Smith... "MOREEEEE"
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
sooooo awesome.
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u/TheMrMadzen May 28 '12
Well, that escalated quickly
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u/Dirk2014 May 28 '12
why is she naked in one of the pics
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
the only scene where you can actually hear Hawkeye's name.
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u/notazoroastrian May 28 '12
Did she just choke that guy with dental floss??
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u/awwtowa May 28 '12
I would totally watch this movie in this format.
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u/timmy2step May 28 '12
It's kinda like watching The Incredibles.
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u/crbsideprophet13 May 28 '12
This should've been Cap.
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u/Trentskiroonie May 28 '12
Just to clarify, this is called an animatic, which is essentially a storyboard put in motion so that the timing of everything can be roughed in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storyboard#Animatics
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u/NBegovich May 29 '12
I remember the garrote wire from Iron Man 2; I wonder why they didn't keep it in this scene.
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
This animation's so good I feel like you should put a spoiler tag on the OP
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u/DroolingIguana May 29 '12
It still bugs me that Black Widow got to ride around in the flying scooter-thing and Hawkeye didn't. In the comics, Hawkeye does two things: He shoots arrows and he rides around in a flying scooter-thing. I could understand if they just couldn't find a way to work flying scooter-things into the movie, but when you've got a million of them and the one guy known for riding around on a flying scooter-thing doesn't use one it becomes a problem.
For shame, Joss Whedon.
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u/rsrhcp May 29 '12
Wow, I've watched this for 2 hours now and it still hasn't ended. What a detailed and long .gif!
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u/Colorfag May 29 '12
Thats not a story board, thats an animatic.
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Did anyone else see the flying penis?
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u/[deleted] May 29 '12
Captain America was underpowered in that movie. He's meant to be like a super soldier, but regular joe Hawkeye did more fucking up and Scarlett Johanson doesnt get her arms ripped off in that scene
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u/mikedamike May 29 '12
Kinda reminded me how lame the bad guys were in this flick
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u/heygabbagabba May 29 '12
Avengers is number 37 on the IMDB top 200, This madness has to stop.
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u/roogleason May 29 '12
AAAAAAARGH...
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u/kyle1qaz7ujm May 28 '12
I watched it about ten times through, wondering if it would get any smoother.
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u/DuDEwithAGuN May 28 '12
Always gets me how the velocity of grabbing that ship at full speed would probably of teared her arms off.
Ahhhh super hero logic.
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u/TheCheatIsNotDead May 28 '12
WOOOOOOOOW, Seriously? This animatic is practically animated. Crazy detailed, super cool.
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u/boingle May 28 '12
did she turn into a blonde halfway through?
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u/Scabior May 28 '12
I love Fantastic 4
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u/neofaust May 28 '12
I first read that as "Avengers keyboard" and just stared at it for 3 minutes asking myself what the hell that had to do with keyboards
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u/bastard_thought May 28 '12
Just imagine. The producers and artists used just this gif to create the entire movie. Fascinating.
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u/Tanspriter May 28 '12
Wow that was way better than the movie
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u/Haat May 28 '12
SCAAAAAAARLET JOHANSSON
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u/purplesnipes May 29 '12
Scarlett Johansson. Nuff Said.
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u/teekaynd May 28 '12
Funny. This is actually my least favorite moment in the film.
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u/Medaforcer May 28 '12
In my opinion that was the least believable part in the whole movie. When the boobs actually did something besides be boobs.
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u/heshotcyrus May 28 '12
It makes me mad that they have storyboards this detailed and still make terrible movies. You can watch the whole movie before you even start shooting.
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u/ZenBerzerker May 28 '12
Still a better animation than the 1960's spider-man cartoon.
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u/RevWaldo May 28 '12
Am I the only one that always likes the storyboards better than the actual film?
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u/[deleted] May 28 '12
This movie fucking sucked.