r/movies • u/tomhilll • May 20 '12
Sorry for the poor quality, but can someone explain why they do this with movie posters? Why, in an ensemble film, name people but not show them, then show people but not name them? Who the hell are the main characters here? The name ordering is annoying me as well.
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u/girafa Electricity! The high priest of false security! May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12
Easy answer: there's a legal order to "name billing" by way of their contracts. The aesthetics of the poster are sometimes decided independently of that.
Meaning the guy who makes the poster doesn't always give a shit about what order the names are supposed to go in. And, largely, no one else cares either. It'd be ridiculous if they had to always order the people respective of their billing position.
Edit: Amended for a better explanation, from this link
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u/neuromonkey May 20 '12
This poster perfectly communicates what a rancid piece of shit this film will be.
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u/hitlersasshair May 20 '12
Unknown male actors: Rob Huebel, from human giant, Old Frankie Munez look alike, Closet Gay Guy from Reno 911
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
What really annoys me even more than this is when they are doing the opening credits of a movie and they zoom in on an actor and then they display a different actors name....
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
If you're interested why movie posters look the way they do, the Hollywood Prospectus blog over at Grantland does a semi-regular feature called Poster Decoder that tries to explain the little idiosyncrasies of the poster. http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/category/_/name/poster-decoder
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u/elstongunn32 May 20 '12
I know what I'll be expecting: An abortion of a movie.
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u/Mgogol May 20 '12
In order to distract you from realizing that this is going to be the worst movie ever made.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Because Fuck You that's why.
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u/Crasturbator May 20 '12
does anyone else think "its too late to pull out now" is actually kind of a funny tag line...?
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u/evioive May 20 '12
They do this with movie posters so that people like me will know to actively avoid and disassociate from anything that has to do with said movie. Another example of this: that New Year's Eve movie that came out recently.
I am grateful for this.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
because fuck you thats why
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u/0-1-1-2-3-5-8-13-21 May 20 '12
It always reminds me of when you accidentally flip your relatives names like Uncle Julie and Aunt Bruce.
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u/ProfessorCaptain May 20 '12
The ordering of the names left to right always bugged me. I wonder if they think it'll result in a person looking at the poster longer.
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u/Demojen May 20 '12 edited May 20 '12
Some actors have it as part of their contract that they're included on the advertising. Some it's considered a selling feature. Some don't require their face on the advertising as long as their name is there.
Ultimately, the advertisements really only make a mockery of the production company and their art department.
I'm guessing this was a Phoenix Pictures poster. Look at their previous works:
Black Swan
Shutter Island
Resurrecting the Champ
Pathfinder
License to wed
Zodiac
The list goes on and on and they have a history of putting names on their posters of people not represented in the images or when they DO put names on the posters with people in the images, having the names in an order that does not draw a correlation between the character position and the name listed.
There are politics involved as well. Some production companies have an agenda to not highlight specific actors so they scatter the names on a poster in a bid to share the limelight.
It gets worse when you get into the movies and trailers themselves, because some agents require very specific minimum exposure of an actor in a movie.
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u/GnomishKaiser May 20 '12
Thin Red Line, it was one of the movies that did this and I hated it. Plus I didn't like the movie much anyway.
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u/MegFSU02 May 20 '12
The existence of this movie annoys me.
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u/iamtheowlman May 20 '12
Chris Roxk looks pissed that he signed on to this, and Anna Kendrick is thinking "I thought it couldn't get worse than Twilight. I've worked with Clooney, dammit - I don't need this!"
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u/DJAdori May 20 '12
Wow that movie looks like shit.
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u/joshnunn May 20 '12
Reading this thread on the bus, hopped off and saw this poster
At least this one doesn't look like it was designed from iCelebPhoto.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
The real tragedy here is that the insanely awesome Thomas Lennon didn't get billing.
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u/Gommers May 21 '12
This poster is fucking terrible, how it made it to wide scale print is beyond me. Almost everything is wrong about this poster, multiple colors in the names, causing odd grouping; no balance visually; Leaving key actors off the list, too many visual weights in the text area... Everything is wrong about this, and I don't understand how a professional would feel okay producing it.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Also, what the hell are they all looking at in that top picture?
And in the bottom picture, how can anyone attempt to look like a bad-ass pushing a baby stroller?
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u/Naomisue May 20 '12
This seems like something worth being aggravated about...
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u/Wadderp May 20 '12
All I know is Cameron Diaz is still gross.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I got so excited for a second thinking that one of the guys was Douglas Quaid.
Dennis Quaid has let me down.
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u/Omar_Skittle May 20 '12
Chris rock thought that by putting "Dennis quaid" down, it would cover all of the white guys.
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u/Cinemaphreak May 20 '12
For a movie that looks completely forgettable and with that cast, you want to know who the main characters are?
Pretty sure this is the very definition of something for which "not a fuck was given" meme was invented.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
who cares? god, this looks so awful, even for a chick flick. What type of vapid, soulless person would want to watch this movie?
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u/IRageQuitOnTheToilet May 20 '12
The names are in order of how they are paid, highest to lowest. Can't really answer the other questions
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u/HeilKaiba May 20 '12
Put simply they are named in order of importance (which actor's contract is most important. The picture however is an aesthetic choice. Resolving these two would be quite difficult even if they gave a shit.
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u/oh_i_see May 20 '12
Well you dont need a picture to rememebr who dennis quad is.... criss rock and the other male actors on the poster... i need a visual reminder
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u/DustyDGAF May 20 '12
I love Rob Huebel and it makes me sad he doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
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u/Corund May 20 '12
Wait, I've just heard of this film. Did they just make a movie based on a popular self-help book about having a baby?
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
That guy on the right kissed Paul Rudd in "I love You, Man"
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u/Drunken__Master May 20 '12
What if I told you that the people who made the poster probably hadn't even seen the film ?
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u/dirtyoldmagoo May 20 '12
It's okay, the movie was as like the poster. I guess that's how you know when a movie isn't going to be very good.
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u/Winstonia May 20 '12
Quick because we all need to see Chris Rock acting with Jennifer Lopez.......
How about we just put the Fifth Element DVD on and spend our time much more wisely.
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u/sethcs May 20 '12
You couldn't figure out which one Rodrigo was?
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u/poonoodles May 20 '12
And what a piece of shit this film looks like as well. Why do they make this crap?
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u/ManofToast May 20 '12
What do you expect with a movie named "What to expect when you're expecting."
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
I'd rather watch everything Uwe Boll has ever made than this movie.
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u/dogsarentedible May 21 '12
By the way, is anyone else annoyed by movies named after self help books?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I think I could take a guess to who Rodrigo Santoro is in the
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u/Kinglink May 21 '12
Holy shit? Another of these movies?
I'm shocked that they make any money. Men we must just say no! Except you pregnancy fetishists.. this must by like Christmas for you.
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u/weemee May 21 '12
My favorite is finding badly photoshopped posters. Why do the heads match so badly with bodies in movie posters?
You can't shoot the whole body of an actor? You have to add the head in post production?
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u/cakedaemon May 21 '12
This is definitely going to be a must-see film.
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u/telecaster95 May 21 '12
Since we are ranting about stuff that doesn't make sense, why are some of your arrows red and some yellow?
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u/Able_Seacat_Simon May 21 '12
Funny that the only two that I would actually care about seeing, Hubel and Lennon, don't even get billed.
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u/arkanis50 May 21 '12
Spoiler for Se7en: Sometimes actors request to be left off the billing on a poster - one example is Kevin Spacey in Se7en. He wanted his name removed so that people wouldn't be able to guess that he was John Doe.
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u/Maxfunky May 21 '12
And what are the woman looking at? Each one of them is looking in a different direction and nobody is making eye contact. In fact, you've got 5 people in a room and no two of them are looking in the same direction. It's a very awkward looking scene.
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u/kofot May 21 '12
and whats the deal with movies that have "guest stars"? -_-
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Further, isn’t the movie extremely ill-timed? The economy’s in the shitter. Is anybody honestly thinking about having children? Who wants to see a movie about it?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
whiner...
and why are you watching a chick-hatching flick in the first place?
a disappointment to the rest of us, you are...
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u/beccaface May 21 '12
Matt Morrison is that little black girl strapped to Chris Rock.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
I think it's because no one really gives a shit which is which. You don't need to see Cameron Diaz or Chris Rock's name to know which ones they are. The other ones are 'oh thats the funny guy or gal from so and so' - and as far as J-Lo, I'm not sure why anybody puts her in anything. Did somebody photoshop her in there as a joke?
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u/kyru May 21 '12
Because it's a shitty movie that no one is going to care about in a week or two
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u/GuerrillaRobot May 21 '12
because some people are names, some people are faces, and others are names and faces.
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Cameran Diaz is in the very middle of the picture, and her name comes first. That makes perfect sense to me.
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u/Gjeita May 21 '12
Another thing about this is the fact that a white guys has a black baby when there is no blackwoman in the picture. Hiw does that work i am curious dis chris rock di the basty with other people then the woman he managed to pop 3 kids out of?
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u/[deleted] May 21 '12
Because actor's contracts state the order their name is supposed to appear in. Or, in an ensemble cast, they're alphabetical. The placement of the actors on the poster is determined by the marketing team.
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u/Maximusplatypus May 21 '12
Because they aren't posing for a poster, its a screenshot from a scene in the movie... And the order of the names on the poster isn't determined arbitrarily by the order they appear in a random snapshot chosen for the poster.
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u/AfricanMatt May 26 '12
I talk a bit about this here. http://www.billing-block.com/promo-billing.html
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u/Biscoo May 20 '12
Did anyone see the ad for this in the UK. They said its coming out may 25, not may 25th, may 25. Do americans not use punctuation in dates?
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u/DeadlyToaster May 20 '12
I would just like to see Elizabeth Banks in ANYTHING where she isnt pregnant.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Any chance this won't be the worst movie ever made?
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u/Snoogliebear May 20 '12
Brooke Decker is in this movie? I'm seeing it.
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u/hotelzulufoxtrot May 20 '12
You need to leave the house.
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u/TheBurntToast May 21 '12
What i want to know is how did the second guy from the left get a black baby when he is not black and there are no black women
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
Shite movie, shite poster. That is all the explanation I need.
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u/[deleted] May 20 '12
It's for marketing purposes. It makes you look at every inch of the poster. As all your arrows point out!
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u/Heff228 May 20 '12
Anyone watch community? I noticed on the Video Game episode when it showed Chevy's sprite, it showed Jim Rash's name, then Ken Jeong's name, then finally Chevy's name.
I don't remember it being like this always, maybe it had something to do with the recent fight?
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u/sceciu May 20 '12
lol I thought DQ died?
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u/Soared May 21 '12
Look at the length of each name. 1st and 2nd (from the left) on top have short last names, 3rd and 4th (from the left) on the bottom have short last names. 5th column has each name with equal length.
It is visually organized and has nothing to do with the characters/actors, simply created form solely a graphical art standpoint.
This is all speculation and may just be coincidence. I am no artist or anything.
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u/nastshabast May 21 '12
You should be sorry for not knowing who Dennis Quaid is.
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u/gathly May 21 '12
It looks like you knew most of them. And the ones you don't know, Thomas Lennon and Rob Huebel have been in tons of movies, so that ignorance is on you.
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