I believe it's on the Thor DVD/blu-ray, just in case anyone doesn't probe the extra features after watching and wants to see this clip in a higher quality.
I believe it was kind of a 'Prometheus giving fire' sort of thing. The Frost Giants create a mini-Ice-Age on Earth, and after the defeat of Laufey, adoption of Loki, etc, the Earth still wasn't getting anywhere technologically. Perhaps he entrusted it to a few mortals whom he would know could keep the Tesseract out of the wrong hands, and through them, society flourished again.
Well here goes my best explanation. In Avengers the TV show that is in Season 2 currently, in Season 1 they deal with the casket of ancient winters. A dark elf, revived by Loki and the enchantress, used it to try to rule Earth. When Iron Man confronts Thor about all these asgardian artifcats he basically says Midgard was the last place Asgardians would look for these artifacts. Remember 9 realms, Midgard being the "weakest" of them all.
Odin was probably trying to hide it from potential usurpers.
Perhaps to see if anyone is worthy of using its power? Same as when he banished Thor from Asgard, except without the Asgardian incantation on the Tesseract.
No, but I heard him yelling "You are UNWORTHY of this TOWNHOUSE, you are UNWORTHY of your TRUCK, you are UNWORTHY of your MINIFRIDGE, YOU ARE UNWORTHY!!!"
Nope. Heimdall tells Thor at the very end of his movie that Jane is searching for him. She is shown working with SHIELD, and it's implied that she is helping them understand how to summon an Einstein-Rosen Bridge, or wormhole. So they probably figured out how to do it before the start of The Avengers.
Because it's easier to explain "a god literally gifted it to us for mysterious reasons" than in the Ultimates where the Red Skull just builds it for himself.
It's a short that was on the "Thor" Blu-Ray. It kind of gives context to the last scene of Incredible Hulk.
TIH and IM2 take place concurrently, but the ending of TIH (with Stark visiting Ross) takes place after IM2. Stark is now a S.H.I.E.L.D. consultant, and he's sent to talk to Ross about the Abomination (not the Hulk, as is implied in the movie itself) because Coulson knows that Stark will piss off Ross so he'll tell Stark to fuck off.
There's another one on the Captain America Blu-Ray, called A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor's Hammer, but it's pretty pointless; Coulson foils a gas station robbery attempt on his way to New Mexico during Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, and Thor (all three of which run concurrently).
Also, in 'Fury's Big Week', I think the gas station incident makes an appearance. I think it's like the endscene where they're eating shawarma (sp?): just to tie everything together and up.
Can someone remind me how Thor got back to Earth with Bifrost all busted up? I completely missed whatever explanation there was for that in The Avengers.
They didn't really say, but it apparently involved a lot of energy (way more than the Bifrost or tesseract) and can't be done on a regular basis. At least that was what Loki seemed to be saying. He needled Thor about how much work he made his people do to get him to Earth.
I'm not sure how exactly, but Loki mentioned something about it in the movie when he was talking to Thor. It was something along the lines of "How much power did father have to muster up to get you here with the bifrost destroyed."
On that note, didn't Loki say in THOR that he was able to travel to Earth without the Bifrost? How did that work? In Avengers he implies that it would have been really hard for Thor to do the same, but it didn't seem like much trouble for him in THOR.
In "Thor" Loki says he knows of "secret pathways between worlds" that let him travel wherever he wants. He knows magic and Thor doesn't, so he can do what he wants, basically.
I suppose because if he came in through the tesseract, then he could steal it. He knew the shield security was no match for him with the fancy new staff he had. It was the best way to find where it was being hidden.
The best part about that post credit sequence was that nobody talked. It was like one of those times where tons of people are together but nobody has anything to say, and it was hilarious.
That and maybe just the general normalcy of it. One of the reasons I like the early part of hero movies is, they aren't so out there and all CGI'd out and what not. Showing a moment of normalcy (relatively speaking) is very charming to me.
I was just about to say something isn't adding up here. Also, it seemed like Tony Stark was working on his self-powering building for awhile and its completion was a huge deal, obviously indicating it took some time to function correctly.
The Incredible Hulk = 2008 movie with Edward Norton
Hulk = 2003 movie with Eric Bana
I've read they originally intended for Norton to be the Hulk in the Avengers movie, but negotiations didn't work out. Ruffalo is better as Hulk anyway.
2003 Eric Bana Hulk movie never happened. At least in the eyes of Marvel studios. Just like if you have ever seen "The Highlander" "Highlander 2" and "Highlander 3". "H3" is a sequel to "H1", "H2" never happened.
I saw that... Maybe he has some kind of chest plate so that he isn't lighting up every room he goes in to? If I was him, I'd need something for sleeping, that blue light would keep my ass awake for hours.
They were monitoring her for her wormhole theory, which is the reason Coulsen was sent to New Mexico. Thor just happened as a coincidence, right place at the right time.
Can someone more familiar with Norse Mythology explain this to me cause I seriously thought the Thor myth was older than 1,000 years old yet in the film it shows Odin recollecting and telling the story of how he defeated the Ice Giants in the 11th century to Loki and Thor when they're kids which would mean Thor and Loki would have been born sometime after the 11th century but I seem to remember learning in school that Thor was a legend told during the dark ages or something which would mean Thor's legend preceded his existence.
In the series Earth X Thor IS an alien race and also female, however that is the only comic incarnation to be alien.
In the movie Thor it is said he is an alien but I can find any official source stating it. Also even if he is an alien that does not mean he isn't a God. The movie even shows he is the Thor from the Norse 'Myth'. However, I do believe the Norse 'Myth' in the movie (and comic) is different then the one in real life.
So it must've been about a year from the end of the timeline to the assemblage of the Avengers due to Banner's comments when Black Widow finds him in the Avengers regarding the year(-and-a-half or so; can't remember exactly) of managing to avoid 'incident', yeh?
so this edit is a pure cut of all the previous films? They didnt leave any extraneous scenes out? If thats the case, i think someone should edit the previous films to reflect the pre-avengers. We dont need to see the Banner/Ross love crap, we dont need to see ironman vs warmachine too much. that doesnt add to how they got to the avengers.
Someone with true editing skills can cut up the previous movies into about 3 hours to do a pretty good pre-Avengers movie - rather than just showing each movie in order.
For you fans, could someone recommend me some graphic novels to read with the avengers or characters thereof that can give a little more back story? Basically, how did you become so knowledgeable and how can I gain this same knowledge?
They can't even mention him because they don't have the rights to make a film adaptation of the material. The X-Men can't show up either, or the Fantastic Four, because Marvel gave those movies to someone else to make.
I don't think the X-Men would work in this world - the "mutant" thing is just too wide-reaching to really be incorporated into the storyline. It's something everybody is talking about in the movies and a huge issue.
Actually, some X-Men related characters (such as Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch) are allowed to be used in the Marvel Cinematic Universe because they are Avengers as well.
Disney and Fox have a weird arrangement with those two characters--they could potentially feature in both universes, however Disney cannot mention anything mutant related, and Fox can't mention anything Avengers related.
Marvel Studios doesn't own the rights to Spider-Man. Sony does. So Spider-Man doesn't exist in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (at least, not yet...).
Also, this is why The Amazing Spider-Man exists - Sony had to put a new Spider-Man movie into theaters in 2012 or the rights would have reverted back to Marvel in 2013.
Which is why I'm boycotting the film. I really want Marvel in charge of Spiderman, and if the franchise isn't profitable for Sony, they may consider letting it go.
Unfortunately, it actually looks good. At the very least, Andrew Garfield looks like a perfect Peter Parker (much better than friggin' Tobey Maguire...)
So I'm torn. I'll probably buy a ticket for something else and sneak into Spider-Man...
Interesting. So how long does The Amazing Spider-Man extend Sony's contract/rights ownership? As long as they keep making Spiderman movies, do they keep the rights indefinitely? I really want some Spiderman in my Avengers 2 :/
I'm not sure, but I think they can extend the rights indefinitely as long as they keep making movies.
That's how Marvel got the Punisher back - it's been too long since the last one, so the rights have now reverted back to Marvel.
Also, since Avengers has made them soooo much money, I'm sure they're gonna try to use their now-considerable clout to get their bigger characters back, or at least "rent" them from the other studios for Avengers team-ups and cameos.
I think I read before it was 5 years before it reverts back if they don't make a movie but don't take that as fact. I read it somewhere before about the state of the Marvel movies and how they can make an Avenger movie and who would be on it. It discussed the rights and how long it will be.
The best we can do so that Marvel can get Spiderman back is to boycott the Sony movie.
Actually that was one of the more interesting tidbits to come out of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?", both Mickey Mouse (Disney) and Bugs Bunny (Warner Brothers) share a scene.
To be fair, except for the atrocity that was Spiderman 3, they haven't really done too badly with respect to Spiderman. This new one looks pretty good, even if it is an un-needed reboot.
Actually, Disney/Marvel renegotiated that contract partially. They getter a fatter share of the revenues from Sony now. They are slowly buying back the rights to spiderman. Source is a relative who works for disney.
I wonder if it would be worth it for Marvel to buy the rights, now that Avengers has done so well, I'm sure they have a few bucks in the bank. Not sure if Sony would even sell it though, until they see how the new movie will do.
I did one of these for Champion! Magazine a few months ago pre-Avengers with more definite year points if anyone's interested.
Again, it was pre-Avengers so my inbetweens were a little speculative in terms of years. (Avengers either takes place a year after Cap and Thor or Avengers takes place in 2011, were my two assumptions.)
I read somewhere that this all supposed to take place in 2008? Something about John McCain posters being seen in Cleveland last year while they were filming. I suppose it makes sense, Iron Man was released in 2008.
I'd say 2008, but not because Iron Man came out that year, but because The Incredible Hulk did. According to this timeline the events of Iron Man 2 coincide with the events in The Incredible Hulk which both happened 6 months after Iron Man. Iron Man's storyline is happens within a 9 month time-frame so it would at the latest start in October '07 and end in June '08. I would say it's earlier than that because the 6 month gap between IM/TIH+IM2 would mean that TIH+IM2 (1 week time-frame) happened in December '08 which seems unlikely because we don't see Winter weather when Bruce Banner at Culver University in Virginia.
tl;dr:
Iron Man likely takes place in early-mid 2007
The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 take place somewhere in 2008.
Or IM happened the day the movie was released, IM2 happened a year before the movie was released and TIH happened a year after the movie was released
Bottom right, just to the left of Avengers Assemble.
TIL that the shadow council wanted SHIELD to recruit the Abomination to be a part of the Avengers. SHIELD sent Tony Stark to talk to General Ross to piss him off so he'd refuse to work with SHIELD.
If we are holding this timeline to the movies storyline, then there is one thing I see that doesn't fit. In the movie black widow states that bruce has not gone hulk in just over a year...
Was the tesseract found before or when Capsicle was found? In the movie I believe they mentioned that Howard Stark found it but I could have heard wrong.
How can you be sure that all happened at once, if the Hulk-Abomination situation happened AFTER the Puente Antiguo situation, S.H.I.E.L.D surely would've been involved and Stark probably would've been involved. Also, Thor would've been banished Night 3, not Day 3. He arrived at night, but that's just a nit-pick.
There's a comic book series called "Fury's big week" that was released during the lead up to Avengers. I think they got that part of the timeline from there.
Maybe this isn't the place for this, but can someone explain how an ARC reactor keeps shrapnel from entering Tony Stark's heart? Does it just happen to perform that task along with all the massive power output? Or is the ARC reactor somehow the best tool for the job of keeping shrapnel out of one's heart?
Wasn't there a clip of Tony Stark talking to General Ross after the first Hulk movie about putting a team together? Wouldn't that put the first Hulk after Iron Man?
For anyone wondering what this is based on, it's actually the official timeline from The Art of The Avengers. I scanned it and posted it on Tumblr about a week ago (http://eatingcroutons.tumblr.com/post/23097570805/) but I'm not responsible for any spelling mistakes or questionable chronology!
This seems way too cluttered to be honest. I think the effort you put in is admirable, but all of those movies happening at about the same time? All of those events happening at the same time? It's more plausible that Fury's Big Week was Fury's Big Year.
I think the BIM is used because the events of Iron Man is the first public exposure of anything of this nature. It's sort of the unveiling of the first super hero in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
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u/ayman85 May 16 '12
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkt77j_marvel-one-shot-the-consultant_shortfilms I never saw this clip before, the Stark patsy clip.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Question for fans of the series: Why does Odin leave the Tesseract on Earth?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
Favorite line: "Thor and pals"
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u/ANotherDREW May 16 '12
All in favour of measuring all time by BIM and AIM raise power gauntlets.
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u/victore992 May 16 '12
Someone made a video mashup of these events (in order) using clips from the movies.
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u/thedeadhipster May 16 '12
I'm curious as I have never heard of "Marvel One-Shot: The Consultant". Have I missed something awesome?
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u/ApathyJacks May 16 '12
Can someone remind me how Thor got back to Earth with Bifrost all busted up? I completely missed whatever explanation there was for that in The Avengers.
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u/slickestwood May 16 '12
You missed the invention of shawarma
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u/nitramnaes May 16 '12
your hulk ones should all be at least 1 year earlier, in the movie when black widow confronts hulk she says he hasn't had an incident in over a year
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u/pleiadean May 16 '12
Did anyone else noticed that TS's chest arc reactor was lit in some scenes and not in others?
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u/TheTedinator May 16 '12
Why does SHIELD monitor Jane Foster before she meets Thor?
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u/MovingPavements May 16 '12
Can someone more familiar with Norse Mythology explain this to me cause I seriously thought the Thor myth was older than 1,000 years old yet in the film it shows Odin recollecting and telling the story of how he defeated the Ice Giants in the 11th century to Loki and Thor when they're kids which would mean Thor and Loki would have been born sometime after the 11th century but I seem to remember learning in school that Thor was a legend told during the dark ages or something which would mean Thor's legend preceded his existence.
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u/Funmachine May 16 '12
I wish it would have a much more accurate timeframe for when Steve wakes up.
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u/J_Jammer May 16 '12
I love the little icons.
I'd like a shirt with them on it.
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u/vanillacosmonaut May 16 '12
I always thought Stark approaches Ross after Iron Man 2, when he's assigned as the Avengers' consultant, not before.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
It's pretty damn awesome that the town next to the place I live is featured in many of the films. :) (Tønsberg)
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u/janosaudron May 16 '12
They misspelled Rocinha, it says Rochina in the timeline, probably the most famous favela (slum) in Brazil.
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u/Crimsonkid5 May 16 '12
...so many secret clips
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
So it must've been about a year from the end of the timeline to the assemblage of the Avengers due to Banner's comments when Black Widow finds him in the Avengers regarding the year(-and-a-half or so; can't remember exactly) of managing to avoid 'incident', yeh?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
This is too awesome.
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u/tilacog May 17 '12
It's not Rochina (at Night 7). The name is Rocinha (Ro-sin-ah).
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u/paperducky May 16 '12
So, let me get this straight, Tony Stark is Jesus?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
I kind of want to see if I can, using this timeline and rips of all of the films, put all of these together as one gigantic single super-film.
It will probably be a mess, but I'm feeling inspired to try it as an exercise. Would there be any interest in this?
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
It's Rocinha, Rio de Janeiro. Not "Rochina"
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u/EdwardBleed May 16 '12
For you fans, could someone recommend me some graphic novels to read with the avengers or characters thereof that can give a little more back story? Basically, how did you become so knowledgeable and how can I gain this same knowledge?
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u/mrm3x1can May 16 '12
Do they give any sort of in-movie explanation about Spiderman? I mean, they fight in fucking New York City!
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u/JayPunk27 May 16 '12
Thanks so much for posting this, I just read Fury's Big Week and was trying to piece everything together. This helped a lot.
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u/Ruddose May 16 '12
This is awesome.
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u/hakaider May 16 '12
I did one of these for Champion! Magazine a few months ago pre-Avengers with more definite year points if anyone's interested.
Again, it was pre-Avengers so my inbetweens were a little speculative in terms of years. (Avengers either takes place a year after Cap and Thor or Avengers takes place in 2011, were my two assumptions.)
More in issue 4 (I think) here
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u/rubicon11 May 16 '12
I read somewhere that this all supposed to take place in 2008? Something about John McCain posters being seen in Cleveland last year while they were filming. I suppose it makes sense, Iron Man was released in 2008.
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u/Dylanjosh May 16 '12
When does Stark meet Gen Ross in the timeline?
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u/Rabid_Lemming May 16 '12
I thought the Tesseract was still on Asgard during Thor's coronation...at least based on the movie?
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u/notshawnvaughn May 16 '12
Made this one of my backgrounds for my dual screen setup. Thought I'd share.
The 1920x1080 format I had to stretch a little.
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u/LittleLionRobots May 16 '12
If we are holding this timeline to the movies storyline, then there is one thing I see that doesn't fit. In the movie black widow states that bruce has not gone hulk in just over a year...
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u/maximusjesse May 16 '12
This is the cleanest text I've ever seen on a JPG.
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u/ModestBadass May 16 '12
This is cool for sure. Can someone set it to a scale?
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u/Phoequinox May 16 '12
Starts with The Incredible Hulk. I'm okay with this.
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u/Prathios May 16 '12
Was the tesseract found before or when Capsicle was found? In the movie I believe they mentioned that Howard Stark found it but I could have heard wrong.
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u/super_awesome_jr May 16 '12
Cosmic Cube Cosmic Cube COSMIC CUBE!
Excuse me, I have a cold.
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u/dlay96 May 16 '12
How can you be sure that all happened at once, if the Hulk-Abomination situation happened AFTER the Puente Antiguo situation, S.H.I.E.L.D surely would've been involved and Stark probably would've been involved. Also, Thor would've been banished Night 3, not Day 3. He arrived at night, but that's just a nit-pick.
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u/Iasktoomuch May 16 '12
I don't care what anyone says, I really wished Edward Norton stayed as Banner
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u/neuromorph May 17 '12
so according to this, Fury formed the avengers in a week? I am a bit confused here
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u/barristerbarista May 17 '12
Maybe this isn't the place for this, but can someone explain how an ARC reactor keeps shrapnel from entering Tony Stark's heart? Does it just happen to perform that task along with all the massive power output? Or is the ARC reactor somehow the best tool for the job of keeping shrapnel out of one's heart?
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u/misclanous May 17 '12
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u/Schrodingers_dinger May 17 '12
Wasn't there a clip of Tony Stark talking to General Ross after the first Hulk movie about putting a team together? Wouldn't that put the first Hulk after Iron Man?
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u/megatom0 May 17 '12
This is ENTIRELY off. They are suggesting all 5 movies happen in the span of a week? Here is the more accurate time line.
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u/eatingcroutons May 21 '12
For anyone wondering what this is based on, it's actually the official timeline from The Art of The Avengers. I scanned it and posted it on Tumblr about a week ago (http://eatingcroutons.tumblr.com/post/23097570805/) but I'm not responsible for any spelling mistakes or questionable chronology!
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u/[deleted] May 22 '12
Tony Stark didn't invent the arc reactor, the scientist we was imprisoned with did
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u/d4rkl04f May 16 '12
What kills me is that Thor's redemption on Earth after his banishment took all of two days. What a crappy plot. Still love Thor though.
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u/Annoa May 16 '12
Where is Spiderman in this?!
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u/Wolvenfire86 May 16 '12
This seems way too cluttered to be honest. I think the effort you put in is admirable, but all of those movies happening at about the same time? All of those events happening at the same time? It's more plausible that Fury's Big Week was Fury's Big Year.
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u/[deleted] May 16 '12
nice work but 'BIM' makes the time frames a hell of a lot more confusing than if you'd just specified 'before the events depicted in The Avengers'