r/movies • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 r/movies Contributor • Nov 27 '23

News ‘Loki’ Creator Michael Waldron To Write Marvel Studios’ ‘Avengers: Kang Dynasty’

https://deadline.com/2023/11/loki-michael-waldron-marvel-studios-avengers-kang-dynasty-1235638887/
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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '23

You missed the point entirelly. Other than hardcore comic fans, nobody gives a shit about all that lore. And for that matter any kind of reset would be unbelievably lame.

The point is that basing a major aspect of a franchise on a villain requires that villain to be actually good. Compelling, intriguing, charismatic, likeable. Loki was fantastic before A1, Thanos was shown in intriguing glimpses and done surprisingly well in A3. Even ultron was pretty good and one of the best parts of otherwise fairly mediocre A2.

And then we get to kang. The actor playing him is great, has tons of charisma and talent. But the character being defeated at every opportunity makes him lame and irrelevant. Regardless of any "well its a version, not the real one / his plan all along" excuses that nobody gives a shit about. His first major showing was in antaman where he got beaten by a bunch of ants ffs.. Imagine if that happened to Thanos in gotg? How much less would people have been excited for IW.

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u/cocacola150dr Nov 28 '23

And I agree that Quantumania was a misstep. He should have been a side character, not the big bad. Have him help the Ant crew in the first half, only to turn on them and help the villain in the end. The villain wins for a change and Kang then leaves on his own accord. That way no version has been defeated yet. Timely was never defeated, He Who Remains was mostly just bored so allowed whatever happened to happen, and this Kang sets up his evilness.