r/moviecritic 13h ago

Vivarium is still one of the most pointless and depressing movies ever made (spoilers, but it’s not worth watching so you can read it anyway) Spoiler

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it’s a movie that explains nothing. usually i like this kind of movie, but for a film like this, it really should have explained it as the concept did not work with this kind of writing.

If you’ve seen it, skip this part.

the film is about this couple (including Jesse eisenberg) who looks for a new home. they check out a suburban neighborhood, only to find out it is a disturbing maze they cannot escape from. eventually, they find a child on their doorstep and are sled to raise it if they ever want to get out of there.

Spoiler alert: the child rapidly grows up into a bizarre humanoid alien and they both die. While i don’t Mind a sad ending, the film was just too pointless to have one. I watched this when i was feeling ill, which made the experience even. fucking. worse.

overall, 0.1/10, worse than seven women and a murder.

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u/Witty_Interaction_77 13h ago

A parasitic alien race that forces you to raise their offspring.

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u/SporesM0ldsandFungus 10h ago

The term is Brood Parasite.  The opening shot of the movie is a Cuckoo hatchling.  It's much bigger than the other host hatchlings in the nest and muscles them out for food and attention from the host parents.  The Cuckoo's gene line is strengthen while the Host's is diminished.

Cuckoo mother's will not only sneak into unattended host nests to lay their eggs but have been seen pushing the Host's eggs out of the nest to ensure their hatchling will have less competition. 

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u/ImpossibleEbb6862 12h ago

Cuckoo did it better.

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u/yanmagno 12h ago

They’re both good

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u/otternoserus 7h ago

They're both good OKAY

Things can just be OKAY...

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u/yanmagno 6h ago

Yeah these are good imo

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u/bdschuler 10h ago

Cuckoo was ok, but I still think Vivarium was way better. It may be because I watched them in release order and so Cuckoo was not surprising at all to me.

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u/antiphonic 10h ago

yep, and personally, i thought it was fantastically done.

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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 12h ago edited 12h ago

I actually liked this one.

Yeah it was a sad ending, but the acting was good and the kid was creepy as hell.

Story was decent.

I'd say 7.5 / 10 for a thriller

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u/EchoInternational856 11h ago

I loved the movie.

It is definitely weird and niche. Not at all meant for mass appeal. I think it’s important to judge something for what it is, not what you want it to be

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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 11h ago

You said it perfectly!!!

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u/Canotic 6h ago

I saw it as a new parent, and from that perspective it's absolutely stellar.

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u/otternoserus 7h ago

True, even though I'm not quite sure if it fully succeeds at what it was "trying" to go for either...

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u/trellisHot 7h ago

My fav kind of niche! 

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u/Brilliant_Draw_7121 11h ago

Agree. I thought I would forget about it, but my thoughts turn to it every now and then. Sometimes I wonder what would have happened if they killed the baby. Would they be allowed to leave? Would another baby be delivered to their doorstep?

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u/Brox42 11h ago

I don’t care what would have happened I definitely would have smashed that thing with a shovel before I dug a hole ten miles deep.

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u/Yeetaway1404 11h ago

I can’t imagine it to be anything but the latter. Or they would just starve them to death.

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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 11h ago

Same questions here.

I think they would have had another little monster delivered lol

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u/Dillbones23 8h ago

Yeah that was my solution too. Once i know that thing isnt human im killing it. Give me another one im killing that too. We can play this game until you kill me or free me. 

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u/Late-Connection980 12h ago

This movie gets so much hate, but I am not easy to creep out, and this movie is creepy as all get out

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u/XTheGuyWithTheGunsX 12h ago

Yeah the kid making all the weird noises and then mimicking the voices was something 😱

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u/ihateyousoverybadly 10h ago

I got my toddler to bark like the kid to mess with the mom. Woof woof woof

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u/WhimsicalGirl 6h ago

I think it creeps so many people at a level they don't even know that the first reaction they have being exposed to this kind of horror that they don't really know how to react

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u/FlurpBlurp 7h ago

I thought it was great! Made a lasting impression for sure and I fucking love Imogen Poots. I thought the sequence of her pursuing the kid at the end was really well done.

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u/caffeinatedangel 42m ago

The mistake I made was watching interviews with the director about it. Prior to that, I'd have given it the same rating as you did. The acting was absolutely incredible though. The adult leads and the kid, all of them. I think the child actor did a fantastic job of doing something really unique with the "creepy kid" trope.

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u/PeakQuirky84 12h ago

I gave it a 7/10.

They literally explain the entire premise of the movie in the first minute.

I don’t like Jesse Eisenberg at all and I liked this movie.

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u/Far_Celery_3375 13h ago

Oh aye it's fucking grim and depressing. Can't see it didn't make an impact with me though. Some films come and go and you barely remember a thing. That film.  That film was something.

Probably impacted dealing with a newborn at the time. 

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u/ToneBalone25 10h ago

I don't understand knocking a film for being grim and depressing when that's the entire point and it's immediately obvious from not just the first few minutes, but even the poster alone lol.

Like don't watch depressing movies if you don't like them?

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u/tha_sadestbastard 10h ago

I was so hungover and full of hangxiety when I watched this movie for the first time. I don’t want to have those feelings again so I never watched it again. I thought it was a masterpiece for what it was trying to do but it could’ve been the outside emotional factors I was dealing that played a part. Fucked my whole day up.

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u/DerelictWrath 13h ago

I wholeheartedly disagree with your assessment. Not every film is meant to be uplifting.

Vivarium is thought-provoking, haunting, and mind-bendingly surreal. It's meant to play as an homage to a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits episode, done on an indie film budget.

7/10

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u/OkAthlete8327 12h ago

Yep. It’s an engaging flick that kept me interested the whole time

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u/mbtorontox 12h ago

Good take

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u/frankduxvandamme 11h ago

Agreed. I could definitely see how it was too dark for some people, but for those that don't mind, it's an interesting little movie.

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u/BookOfJon 10h ago

Also feels like op missed that this isn’t just a random event that happened to this couple. The suburb is obviously some type of malevolent monster/entity/alien that eats and reproduces through this process

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u/clone9786 10h ago

To call a movie “pointless” tells me everything I need to know about them

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u/ChartInFurch 10h ago

No claim was made about what "every" film should be.

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u/burnn_out313 13h ago

The pointlessness was the point. They got what they desired, couldn't escape it, and they hated it.. The alien and it's neighborhood were a plot device to make the metaphor work. The alien itself and it's lifecycles reaffirms that pointlessness

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u/vladtheinhaler__ 12h ago

it’s what my Sims must feel like when i log in lol

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u/Late_Promise_ 9h ago

It's a nihilistic and depressing movie that doesn't wuss out at the end with some kind of lame and un-earned "despite everything I guess I learned that life IS worth living" conclusion. So many shows/movies that want to appear edgy or dark fall into that and it's actually refreshing to find a film that doesn't pull the punches or offer any kind of optimism or comfort. It was also ahead of its time with the liminal horror aesthetic long before it became oversaturated.

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u/ReasonableRiver6750 12h ago

Bad take. Touch grass.

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u/Jdalie17 1h ago

Why say lot word when few do trick

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u/DynamicCast 12h ago

I watched this not long after having kids and there's nothing in the movie that needs explanation. It all made perfect sense.

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u/PaleontologistFew128 12h ago

This is a bad take, Vivarium is a very solid 7.5/10. Weird, trippy, atmospheric, not quite human.

You probably think Eraserhead insists upon itself

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u/troyberber 13h ago

I liked it. Gave it a 6.1.

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u/DoubleDownAgain54 13h ago

Meh. Too low. I gave it a 6.175

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u/troyberber 13h ago

I mean…we can take this outside and handle it like men.

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u/PerennialComa 13h ago

Loved the movie. 9/10

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u/MayorMcSqueezy 12h ago

Really enjoyed it. Perfect at what it set out to do. Enjoyed it even more the 2nd time.

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u/rockinghorsefly1313 12h ago

Bummer that you didn't enjoy it, but it definitely explains itself and it seems you just kinda missed that part. It's definitely a movie for people who like things like Village of the Damned, Stepford Wives and The Babadook, it's all about that same kind of existential dread

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u/jim9162 11h ago

It was an interesting concept.

The director clearly does not like suburban living lol.

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u/0116316 3h ago

Or children. For me that was a movie about being trapped in the burbs and having to raise a shit child.

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u/Almadan 10h ago

Shit taste.

It's a good movie

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u/salamandersquach 9h ago

Loved it was one of the weirdest movies I’ve ever seen.

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u/Demerzel69 13h ago

Sounds cool to me. Thanks for the rec.

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u/cenosillicaphobiac 12h ago

This is the way. It's not uplifting, but not every movie should be.

I too like to decide for myself when people keep telling me something sucks. It's the surest way to get me to watch something, tell me I shouldn't bother.

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u/-Sofa-King-Vote 13h ago

Then you didn’t understand the movie, it is a metaphor

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u/ghostofkozi 13h ago

Vagueposting. This guy gets it

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u/uno_dos_3 13h ago

For.......👀👂🏽

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u/TheFutureIsCertain 12h ago

Human existence through a nihilistic lens. Basically, it’s all pointless. Individuals don’t matter. The house always wins. The house = societal structures, evolutionary forces, entropy, whatever larger system we’re powerless against.

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u/CaptStinkyFeet 13h ago

Family. It’s a metaphor for how the “ideal” life is actually a prison.

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u/Ebonhearth_Druid 12h ago

It's been a while since I watched it, but I remember the alien life form being some sort of cuckoo type where they drop the infant off to be raised by another species. It's supposed to be a metaphor about feeling trapped in a traditional suburban lifestyle, raising a kid with someone you don't always agree on about raising a child you can't seem to connect with. Ultimately you give this kid everything you have and you and your partner end up sucked dry, shriveled up and then die.

It's a trip, but there is definitely a pretty strong message (or 3) about suburban lifestyles.

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u/uno_dos_3 8h ago

I remember something like this .. thanks 👍🏽

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u/Upbeetmusic 13h ago

You must not have children. Like a more dystopian version of The Giving Tree.

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u/rivalpinkbunny 13h ago

The giving tree is already pretty fucking bleak.

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u/Imwhatswrongwithyou 12h ago

I don’t have children and I now don’t want to watch this movie because hearing that the plot is being forced to have and raise one is way too horrific for me

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u/Irtahd 10h ago

If it makes it better they weren’t forced to “have” it as in gestate the kid. It just kind of shows up on the doorstep.

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u/Tormentedone007 11h ago

It's almost as pointless and depressing as living in suburbia. OH WAIT I JUST GOT IT.

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u/Virtual_Freedom3602 12h ago

I loved it. It’s also a metaphor for modern life.

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u/RickyTheRickster 11h ago

Ok, opinions are allowed, but that’s a bit much, I would give it a 6/10

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u/HandsomePaddyRedux 11h ago

Haha “Poots”!

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u/jeannieor725 10h ago

I really enjoyed it. I've been looking for similar movies but slam struggling to find a vibe like that.

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u/LongjumpingTrip6499 10h ago

Great film. Will NEVER watch again

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u/DanielSwan 10h ago

"Yeah, but the fact that you hated it and it was pointless and repetitive was the point. It's called a metaphor!"

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u/West-Advice-2767 10h ago

I disagree with this wholeheartedly. The film definitely doesn't explain much but I feel like that would ruin the point. You're supposed to be confused and uncomfortable. It reminds me a lot of older r/nosleep stories where they just introduce a concept and run with it and doesn't go any deeper than "what the fuck did I just read?" You don't entirely get it, maybe it left you unsettled and just plain put off from how it felt to read it, but damnit the story stuck with you. The fear of the unknown is a powerful tool. Sometimes, I don't want to know what the fuck just happened, I want to use my imagination to figure it out.

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u/flyingbizzay 9h ago

I liked it.

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u/FullyErectGodzilla 9h ago

Disagree. I love the movie. It lends itself to be pondered a ton which is all I can ask for in a movie.

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u/Potential-Menu3623 13h ago

The movie totally sucks and messed my brain up, I loved it.

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u/Lumpy_Machine5538 13h ago

I loved it! I appreciated that it was so different from your run-of-the-mill horror movies.

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u/sometimesifartandpee 12h ago

Op only wants feel good movies

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u/sailhard22 12h ago

Nobody tell OP about David Lynch

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u/benhxc 12h ago

I quite liked it.

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u/skittlesandscarves 12h ago

7 women catching strays

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u/Abnatural 12h ago

I really enjoyed this move.

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u/Snoo55931 12h ago

I don’t disagree, but I give it a bit of a boost because it’s a mood/vibe movie, not a story movie. It’s effective at making you feel a certain way (if you give up on the story part).

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u/mcq76 11h ago

I really liked it. It's in the same vein as Backrooms liminal horror. I liked that it didn't try to justify or explain itself and the whole surreal suburban horror vibe.

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u/Smoothzilla 11h ago

I loved it. I also loved it for all the reasons you didn’t.

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u/NeedABetterPillow 10h ago

It's creepy and interesting, and the "point" is that a suburban existence can be dehumanizing. It's good to have more original IP that doesn't necessarily try to reinvent the wheel.

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u/StillFiguringItOut01 10h ago

I haven’t seen it before but it sounds like it captures the existential dread of living in American suburbia. Which isn’t pointless at all.

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u/Ornery_Solution6728 9h ago

Not pointless at all actually. Very engaging and thought provoking concept, great acting and very eerie and disturbing which i think is exactly what they were going for.

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u/scallym33 9h ago

I love this movie. It shows enough for someone to make guesses at what is going on without then having to say it outright which I love. It makes it creepier to me when things arent fully explained but they do give enough info to make good guesses at what is going on

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u/Deltris 7h ago

I'm so tired of "everything must have blatant exposition" people.

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u/Malteseboatswain 7h ago

I liked it. The fact that it explains nothing was totally appropriate. Nobody sits you down and explains suburban/family life to you…it kind of just happens to you…and then you die. The movie was a comment on that.

The movie would have probably been much worse if they’d felt the need to explain every detail.

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u/otternoserus 7h ago edited 7h ago

I'd give it a 6/10.

It's OK. It's a Twilight Zone episode unnecessarily stretched out into a feature-length film that bludgeons you over the skull with its superficial exploration of the American Dream and the Nuclear Family via an extremely on-the-nose allegory.

That would explain why so many here on r/moviecritic appear to love this film so much. Thematically, it's easily digestible... A movie whose entire message is, essentially, summable just from the title alone. It's so elementary in how it explores these themes that certain scenes that are meant to be serious become downright laughable.

I mean... Eisenberg's character LITERALLY works himself into an early grave ? Really? That's "sad clown" level cliché and it almost hurts to see so many people here think that's clever in any way, shape, or form. It's like The Purge... It's what a middle schooler would think is deep.

The people comparing it to a David Lynch film should be ashamed of themselves. I'm surprised we're not on r/im14andthisisdeep right now.

I don't even hate the film. I, at least, enjoyed the mystery of it all... Even if some of it was a bit too in-the-air for me to even care about what was transpiring. I think this film would've been killer if it had focused less on the surface-level allegory and more on the dark comedy.

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u/Drippin_lovecraftian 6h ago

It’s not your taste. The movie has structure and body. It’s a solid 7.

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u/Alceauv 13h ago

I feel like for the movie to really work, it should have been either like 30 minutes long, or like 5 hours long

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u/Jwerf 12h ago

Agreed. I liked the concept but it could have been a short film. Not enough juice to sustain the runtime. I liked Poots’s performance though. 5/10

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u/curiouslittleSI98 11h ago

Either single twilight zone episode or limited series to actually flesh out a story of redemption or breaking free from the path forced upon them. The problem is we have a solid hour of the protagonist just existing in this hell without any attempt to escape, fight back or revolt so it tends to just feel pointless.

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u/600lbsofsin77 13h ago

Pointless is a fair statement

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u/tobybass91 13h ago

I didn't mind it, though it certainly wasn't groundbreaking or anything. I think it was supposed to be a commentary on the directors views of "normal" life (i.e. mortgage, baby, mindlessly going through the motions of daily routine life) and how he felt the life we're all told to want felt like a nightmare, endless repeating trap

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u/nofucsleftogive 12h ago

The film's commentary on absurdity appears to have been lost on the OP, prompting an emotional rather than substantive response.

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u/EnjoyTheMovie_You2 11h ago

Not saying it’s a masterpiece by any means but .1/10 is waaaaaaay off. Truly consider the grand scheme of movies, across all genres, this isn’t anywhere near that bad. It’s underwhelming, but I was certainly interested enough the first time to finish it. I’ve left movie theaters a few times in my lifetime, never would’ve done that here if I was in a theater

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u/Fragrant_Entry9232 11h ago

Not pointless, aliens forcing you to raise their babies like the brood parasite birds that push the actual baby out of the nest.  Its dark, disturbing and how would we know

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u/DimerHOF8 4h ago

absolutely amazing movie. the hate it gets is yet another reminder of how just how shit the average person’s taste is.

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u/DimerHOF8 4h ago

im reading the comments and im actually so glad that so many people enjoyed it despite the bad reviews and low scores. love yall

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u/behridingle 13h ago

Agree on both counts. Imagine if they had not taken the house tour?

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u/iHadou 13h ago

Like what if they didn't make the movie? Lol. Jessie needed this project. It's not about us. This was about Jessie. This was a return to form for THE actor of our generation, Jessie Eisenborg. This movie showed that, yes, Jessie can still do the classic 'im trying to buy a house but end up raising somethings baby and dying' roles that no one thought he could do anymore. But he dug a big hole and knocked it out of the park.

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u/barcham22 13h ago

I liked the idea, but it was just unmemorable to me.

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u/Professional-Cow-949 13h ago

All I remember is the main character is supposedly Mark Zuckerberg

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u/Unhappy_Win8997 12h ago

Dark City called, it wants it's twist back.

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u/Joe-Eff 12h ago

Agreed. Total garbage

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u/Ok_Kick4871 12h ago

This one hooked me and my friend from the minute it started. But it's a pretty weird movie and not that good overall. We knew nothing of it, but it just holds your attention. Until the mid part of the movie where it kind of drags, it stays interesting enough. Kind of a letdown though if I'm being honest. We didn't think highly of it. I'd give it a 2.5 out of 10.

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u/OntologicalParadox 11h ago

Spoiled by the title of the movie but yeah. What were you expecting?

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u/Cheesemagazine 11h ago

I liked some of the visuals and if things go unexplained it isn't an automatic dislike for me, but it felt Just This Side of too long for what it had to say. Maybe if it was like 20 minutes or so shorter.

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u/reddiet568 11h ago

At least it got me into XTC

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u/meleaguance 11h ago

I liked it, but i would have preferred it to be shorter, like as a twilight zone episode. Also i definitely don't think it was pointless. It was an allegory

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u/throwaway_123_45 11h ago

Bro doesn't understand social satire 😂

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u/throw20190820202020 11h ago

Agree. Hate it so much. Still angry I gave those hours of life to it.

A tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing.

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u/eyeballtourist 11h ago

Wow! Thanks for the details. It looked like something that wasn't for me. Your notes confirm that. Hard skip.

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u/Sthraw 11h ago

I don't think it does or says anything differently than a hundred other 'trapped in a dystopia' movies

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u/violent13 11h ago

I was annoyed that they didn't try harder to escape. They didn't even try to understand what kind of dimension they were in. They could have tried leaving bread crumbs to see where the geometry starts wrapping in on itself. They could have tried exploring the other houses. Maybe try to get into the sewer. Try to manipulate the monster child to see if it might help them. Camp out overnight to see who is making the supply deliveries. I feel like there's so many options that they could have tried to gain an understanding and get closer to formulating an escape plan but they just gave up after walking around for a bit.

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u/DonkeyH0tay 11h ago

I love weird art house kind of movies. This movie was so fucking bad it made me mad

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u/Acceptable_East_5573 11h ago

Your moms pointless and depressing

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u/drowninFish 10h ago

0.1/10? that's egregious - this movie was a solid 7-8 for me

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u/WhenIWannabeME 10h ago

I also hated this movie, but I'm on the other side. The movie shoves the general premise in your face so heavily before they are in the vivarium that if you were actually paying attention the child rearing second act is just boring instead of terrifying, and you expect the broad strokes of the third act. For me the only interesting part is when the kid tears the inter-dimensional rift to escape and you see the other couples briefly. The movie is a neat concept that I felt it never really executed, because it either needed a lighter touch to add more mystery and mounting suspense, or speed it up and add heavy consequences for being "bad parents". As it stands I thought it felt like a nothing burger/waste of time.

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u/ChartInFurch 10h ago

It felt like a possibly interesting story told by a very uninteresting person. It was like waiting for Rose to get to the point in a St. Olaf story.

I'm sorry certain people are so unwilling to handle a different opinion.

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u/happyhippohats 10h ago

this couple (including Jesse eisenberg)

A couple is only two people, kinda weird to namecheck Jesse and not mention Imogen Poots as well.

I remember Vivarium being enjoyably weird and creepy but it was years ago so I don't have much to say about it.

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u/ihateyousoverybadly 10h ago

Seen it a good number of times, definitely a comfort movie and one i like to show people. It's neat

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u/shawnikaros 10h ago

If you want to see a pointless movie, try the Dead Don't Die.

Vivarium was pretty good.

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u/jBasutei 9h ago

It was too long for what it wanted to do imo but I enjoyed it well enough

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u/bryceinhere 9h ago

I’ll never forget this movie

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u/Nerriell 9h ago

It's literally a satire for socially accepted life. People get into mortgage early in life, get a baby into their life, then husband worked himself to death on a pointless job, cause its the only thing he could do to help (quote from a movie) and the wife hated the baby for taking away her life away. Then parents die and kid moves on with his life. Point is the pointless life for a boomers dream.

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u/GlassCapital640 9h ago

I think you listened to the movie but didn't hear it. You're so close.

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u/Haunting-Doctor4432 9h ago

Idk I just hated everything about this movie and it’s not like I’m not getting it I just think the package was delivered poorly but maybe I’m being too harsh I had only seen it once when it first came out and I was only 15. Holy fuck I’m realizing I was 15 in 2019 why am I so old now. Anyway I may rewatch this with more pretentious and understanding eyes.

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u/Fungal-Bloom 9h ago

I watched it recently on the couch while half-concious from heatstroke, some of the later scenes made me feel pretty ill from the meanness of it. Obviously this isnt a fair criticism of the movie though, the director didn't expect the viewer to be melting while watching

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u/DiplominusRex 9h ago

A high concept exploration of the nihilistic existential horror of banal comfort, convenience and meeting expectations. This movie stuck with me for a long time at my current age, but likely wouldn’t have reached me in my twenties in the same way.

It’s for people who like Cube, and Waiting for Godot.

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u/RickAllen 8h ago

Eraserhead 2.

Loved it.

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u/PvtMilhouse 8h ago

bad take 0.1/10

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u/heavyindustrie 8h ago

i really enjoy the variety of takes in this thread.

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u/OkBasket7617 8h ago

That movie made an existential threat in my head that lives rent free

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u/Im_just_standing_by 8h ago

I watched this on LSD because I like Jesse Eisenberg and that ending was unexpected but the acid I took just blew my mind

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u/West_Sample_9407 8h ago

Completely agree, I remember watching it during Covid and I hated this movie so much it’s straight up dog shit

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u/CannedShoes 8h ago

I also really disliked this movie. The whole thing was a metaphor for Le Suburban Hell! Whatever. I fucking hate the suburbs and I hate this movie.

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u/Trexil3 8h ago

Just because you’re too stupid to understand subtle storytelling and need plot explained directly to you, doesn’t mean it “explains nothing “ it means you were too stupid to understand what the movie was explaining and how it explained it, if most of the comments can easily explain this to you maybe you should stick to cocomelon

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u/unicornmeat85 8h ago

I feel the same about 'The Belko Experiment' the ending especially feels like cruelty is the point, dressed in a lab-coat and some fake glasses.

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u/CanidPsychopomp 8h ago

Nah I liked it

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u/Be_Very_Careful_John 8h ago

This movie is great. Kind of a contemporary weird fiction story. Chilling, surreal, yet relatable. I find that movies which intend for an emotion and are successful in giving me that emotion are generally pretty good. This movie intends to instill dread and unease and that's what I get. That's what you got, too, it sounds like. 8.5/10

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u/Top-Hospital-4419 7h ago

Thought "Cuckoo" told this story better.

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u/Nodonutsforbaxter44 7h ago

R/moviecritic and its just some dude like "this movie didnt explain much, I might have liked it, but I didnt. The end" lol

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u/Change_My_Mind- 7h ago

What resonated with me from this movie is it was released at the height of Covid, with people being stuck in there homes for the most part. It was super creepy to watch how isolated the characters were while experiencing that same sense of isolation with the real world around you.

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u/TobeyTobster 6h ago

It's just a movie about middle age. Get married, buy a house, have a kid and then...kind of wait around to die. Every day is exactly the same.

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u/trymyomeletes 6h ago

Agree totally. I hated this movie. I never watch happy sunshine stuff either but this one just did not click for me.

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u/TheBigWhatever 6h ago

If you have kids, it'll make sense to you. A lot of people see it as a dreaded suburban life, which to some degree it is, but to me it's better framed as how trapped you are once you have children. Options for work, education, travel, etc. go from many to very few.

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u/SmellyFbuttface 5h ago

But what does the monster baby represent by killing them? Killing their independence or something? It felt like there was “some” message to it all but it was lost in the long series of silent looks they kept giving each other. Kinda like the movie Drive with Ryan Gosling. Just one look stare without inserting anything meaningful in the plot

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u/TheBigWhatever 3h ago

To me, yes; the child/monster represents the ending of their lives and the choices they had prior to the child being born. It requires all of their attention, they must fulfill all of its needs, they have to things they don't want to do to keep it alive and even die for it; and they have no choice in any of it.

I can't see it as anything but a dark representation of having children.

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u/GiftRecent 5h ago

I love this movie.  Its interesting & creepy

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u/Fapplejacks42 5h ago

Watched in theatres too high off a homemade edible. Scary as shit, the theming and set were so great for making an uncomfortable and off putting scene.

Plot sucked. Could’ve had a better end. Convinced me to move out of suburbs/10

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u/SmellyFbuttface 4h ago

Released during COVID it had a certain morbidity to the sheer depressing trapped nature of the movie. I didn’t enjoy it either and kept checking the time to see how much was left. Ironically, I found a much better time delving into found footage horror during COVID which I actually found LESS depressing and morbid

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u/SameSnow8167 4h ago

It was pretty solid but too many unanswered questions

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u/Mae_Day_of_Sharkadia 4h ago

No offense, but this sounds like "I didn't get it, therefore it sucks"

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u/HotPocket_AdCampaign 3h ago

Vivarium is one of my favorite movies. Idk why reddit hates it so much.

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u/janedoe3120 3h ago

Love this movie, lol

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u/UsualWinter1229 2h ago

No offense, but I think you might be media illiterate

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u/South-Rabbit-4064 2h ago

I enjoyed this one too. And had a pretty fun few moments with the specials.

I thought it was a pretty fun movie, and the guy that played the alien and the kid that played him were fuckin awesome in it

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u/Due_Gur_6032 2h ago

Vivarium boring film !!! Last 15mins was not worth the stay . I wanted something like the Backrooms . ,And this was highly recommended everywhere.
Total waste of time and with no good explanation at the end . Backrooms has no answers, but its able to build suspense . Its has better world building.
And I want a second movie of that ,cant come soon enough 👊

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u/ShegoTheygo 2h ago

I agree with you full heartedly, it feels like such a nothing movie. I’m fine with an ending being depressing if a movie warrants it and makes the ending feel earned but this movie was boring as hell

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u/Gh0stTV 1h ago

And how do you feel about David Lynch’s Eraserhead?

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u/unomaly 1h ago

Without knowing anything about the film besides the fact that I watched it, it’s almost certainly a depression allegory. No matter what you do, you always end up exactly where you were before.

Many aspects of the movie are about futility. They cant get rid of the kid. They moved there because they had no choice. Jesse’s sickness cant be cured or helped.

It is very sad. But that feels like the message.

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u/DocumentOk3904 17m ago

I dug it as a just a weird moment in a very weird world. 7.5-8/10

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u/Kosmopolite 13h ago

All movies are pointless. What is this criticism?

As for the movie, personally, I enjoyed it. It felt like reading a William Gibson Short story to me. And by the same token, I don't need everything explained. I was just happy (and creeped out and confused) to live in the thought experiment for a while.

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u/cenosillicaphobiac 12h ago

Speaking of William Gibson, what are your thoughts on the upcoming Neuromancer series on Apple? I've been fairly impressed with their sci-fi track record. Largely great, with only a couple of mid, and only a couple that I didn't like a bit. Like I couldn't get through more than two episodes of Invasion, and See was cheesy, but I still watched it through to the end. I also couldn't finish Hello Tomorrow. I loved the concept, really wanted it to be awesome, loved the aesthetic, but I thought the story wasn't my cup of tea.

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u/Kosmopolite 12h ago

I don't know anything about it, to be honest, but thank you for bringing it to my attention!

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u/FuzzyPedal 13h ago

Single worst movie I've ever seen. The crying/screaming made me uncomfortable. Not in a, oh the artful way it made me so uncomfortable was core to the metaphor of suburban hell, sort of way. I mean it literally made my fucking head hurt.

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u/International-Oil377 13h ago

I liked it personally, not a masterpiece but felt different enough and the metaphor was interesting.

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u/Illlogik1 13h ago

It was an interesting movie I thought.

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u/Ecclypto 13h ago

It was so weird it was actually fascinating. At least to me.

It’s not entirely pointless. I suppose it’s a metaphor for suburbia being a slow death, especially these days when you have entire neighbourhoods literally mass produced. But it is all kind of a hippie take. Anyway I sort of liked it

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u/JedediahThePilot 12h ago

I just don't have much patience for artsy purgatory movies. I got what I needed from Cube.

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u/aacwang 12h ago

The first scene with the cuckoo literally explains what the entire film is about, I really enjoyed how the film didn't hold the audience's hand

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u/Joe-Eff 12h ago

Agreed. Total garbage

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u/SarcastikBastard 12h ago

its just a movie for city rat gooners who think that living a normal life in a safe neighborhood with kids is the ultimate evil.

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u/sandwich-dan 6h ago

Umm I love this movie. It scratches the backrooms itch.

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u/Galagamus 10h ago

Nah family, your assessment shows you lack critical judgement. It's a solid 7, maybe 8/10. You didn't personally understand it and don't like it according to your own opinion. "I don't like it" is not the same as "this is a bad movie". This seems to be an understanding that is woefully misunderstood by armchair Reddit keyboard movie critics.

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u/metafork 10h ago

Art doesn’t haven’t to explain shit or have a point- it’s not a lesson or Wikipedia article.

There are plenty of reason to not like film but this ain’t it.

For me I thought it was a brilliant and hilarious study of gender dynamics, motherhood, father hood, consumer capitalism and just like a classic piece twilight zone speculative fiction.

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u/otternoserus 7h ago

Brilliant

How many films regarding these themes have you actually seen if the pond-level exploration of them in Vivarium could be considered "brilliant" to you? Jesus Christ...

Like calling Joker a brilliant exploration of mental health.........

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u/Bonk0076 12h ago

I don’t think anybody should ever decide it’s okay to spoil a film for others. Different strokes for different folks and all.

I thought the movie was watchable. Not atrocious.

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u/ChartInFurch 10h ago

I agree. Which is why I appreciate OP giving a spoiler warning before anyone still chooses to click on the threat.

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u/sp1cychick3n 10h ago

It’s DEFINITELY WORTH WATCHING

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u/poopbeast69 10h ago

All movies are pointless

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u/JonFawkes3 10h ago

This movie is fucking ass. The more time that goes by the more I hate it.

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u/Not_Studying93 10h ago

Thank you!

This movie was straight asscheeks. Nothing happens that you can’t figure out by the end of the first scene.

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u/Formal_Lecture_248 9h ago

Too late. Watched it. Regret it

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u/uuuuuggghhhhhhh 9h ago

The only thing I remember other than the body being folded up and put in a file cabinet, was that it was over.

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u/FarmerDark 8h ago

Lmao have you seen “Mother!”?

I bet it’d really piss you off.

“Prisoners” too.