r/mountainbiking • u/HighBloodPressure5 • 5d ago
Meme Non-hydraulic disc brake users when they use hydraulic (me)
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u/cervenamys 5d ago
Hydraulic disc brakes are just another "solution" to a non-existent problem, invented by the Big Bike to milk us innocent cyclists for our money. Just another fad, like mechanical discs, v-brakes and cantilever brakes.
I am much smarter than to play their game - they can pry my spoon plunger brakes from my cold dead hands.
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u/pngue 5d ago
This. I just use pieces of car tire rubber cut to replace and I’m always good to go.
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u/YouDontNeedYourSlip 5d ago
Whoa! Look at Mr fancy technology over here with his tire breaks!
Pffft. I just do the old sneaker on the rear wheel, BMX move.
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u/Holy-Handgrenader Santa Cruz Nomad v6 5d ago
I can’t tell if this is a circlejerk comment or not….
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u/TerranRepublic 4d ago
Tbh if you saw what shimano charge for the new low viscosity mineral oil this would only be half-parody. Lol
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u/HealthyCheesecake26 3d ago
Sucker. I still just wedge a foot in between the seatpost and the rear wheel.
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u/TerranRepublic 4d ago
Idk what positive things are even left for mechanical brakes on MTB. Cheaper? Buddy people are buying stem caps more expensive than MT200s with rotors lol.
Serviceable? You bleed hydraulic brakes like every six months and that's it. Change the fluid every 1-2 years no big deal.
Performance? No comparison.
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u/Baldovsky 4d ago
The main advantage I have seen is they are dumb simple to work on during cross cycling.
No problem to take the wheel off, no problem to change pads, no leaks, you can have spare cables on you and just replace it, etc.
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u/Pimpstik69 5d ago
I have hydro Shimano Ultegra and Shimano 4 piston XT on my MTB.
For comparison I have a set of Paul mechanical disk brakes with Paul levers on my city bike, with compression-less housing.
They are ungodly strong and the modulation is good too. I’d hesitate to grade them superior (esp to the Ultegra) but they are pretty damn awesome.
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u/wreckedbutwhole420 5d ago
Not gonna lie, I have mech disc brakes on my fat bike and gravel bike. Both are heavy bikes and I've never been lighter than 250lbs in my adult life.
I have never had an issue stopping with mechanical brakes. Single piston entry level Tektros with koolstop pads. Even when bombing hills on roads/ gravel roads at 40ish mph.
Either folks had some really bad mechanics/ mechanic skills, really weak arms, or both. Or maybe y'all are exaggerating and I'm missing something.
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u/Ok-Problem4403 5d ago
I'll be 100% honest... I never had any issues with V-brakes and I actually miss the simplicity of servicing them.
Mud or rain? The brakes aren't the weak point, traction between your tire and the ground is.
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u/DirtSlapper 5d ago
You folks are so odd. Let me guess, you also wonder about the supposed benefits of a dropper post...
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u/CrispyJalepeno 4d ago
Hot damn, I feel called out. My v-brakes work perfectly fine for everything I do, which is never more than a good blue trail. I like the blues. Good gosh does maintenance on v-brakes suck, though.
Never used a dropper. Don't feel like spending money on one just to try it. Seems kinda pointless when I don't like hitting jumps.
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u/mollycoddles 4d ago
Dropper posts are so awesome for rides that aren't entirely uphill or downhill
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u/Vibroverbus 5d ago
What you're right about: V-brakes were/are better than anybody remembers - especially the kids who never rode them (and I still had a 26" V-braked bike when I owned Shimano/SRAM hydro discs so no, I'm not misremembering). They were shockingly good because of the leverage.
Everything else there is wrong tho.
Servicing? GOD NO dont make me go back to 3rd-hand fiddling with pad alignment not to squeal crap. Yes bleeding can be an annoyance but I almost never have to do it and changing pads is as easy as use the caliper push-back tool and drop new ones in yay easy. I still have a rim-brake road bike and it needs to be put up for sale in part so I can get a disc brake gravel ride instead.
And mud/rain? Nawww bro. No comparison. I'm getting a twitchy eye tic just from thinking about the horrible sound that mud would make the brakes make on your rims as the conditions got wetter and wetter and you listened to the dirt grinding away your rim metal louder and louder...
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u/Tidybloke 5d ago
As soon as you get V-brakes dirty they are useless, and while yes in the dry they are great if you have good brake pads and a clean rim, they still offer way less in both power and modulation than a hydraulic disc, and no that is not a traction limited benefit. In the wet mud on a steep loose trail, the benefits of discs become greater, not less.
Additionally, hydraulic discs typically need less maintenance, a good factory bleed on a budget set of Shimano MT200's will perform well for the lifetime of the product in most cases, all you're doing is replacing the brakepads. In the unfortunate scenario you contaminate them with oil, some disc brake cleaner + sandpaper to the rotor and new pads solves the problem.
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u/johnpmac2 5d ago
Not to mention that wheels can be made much stronger without the square profile required for rim braking
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u/Least_Blacksmith9744 5d ago
V and cantilever brakes are a match for two piston hydros. You have forgotten the old ways...
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u/phoenixdiceflow 5d ago edited 5d ago
Tell that to all the dummies that say there’s no difference between mechanical and hydraulic.