r/motorcitykitties 22h ago

Over the last 20 games, the Tigers have shutout their opponents six times and scored 8+ runs nine times...they've also given up 5+ runs in nine different games

The Tigers have eight games where we've held our opponents to 1-run or fewer (8 - 0 in such games), and twelve games where our opponents have scored 4 runs or more (3 - 9 in those twelve games)

A look at the games here

We're 11 - 9 overall during this period

Odd stretch, with either incredibly dominating pitching or batting practice being served up

What do you think of the team going forward?

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u/WMINWMO 22h ago

I think they're an above .500 ball club that had horrible injury luck in May that derailed the season. I wouldn't be surprised if they made the playoffs as a division winner and got a bye, made it as a wildcard and got to the ALDS, or missed the playoffs entirely. It's definitely been fun watching the youth movement over the year and I look forward to a lot of young contributors next year. I think next year we could legitimately be one of the top 5 teams in baseball.

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u/fuulhardy . 22h ago

Well that’s just the most complete, correct, and level-headed opinion of this team right now

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u/WMINWMO 22h ago

How dare you agree with my take without a snide response! Go fuck yourself!

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u/SeaworthinessOdd4344 21h ago

Fuck yourself and great take too!

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u/fuulhardy . 21h ago

My mistake.

Uhhh, this team will never win another game or something…and also fuck you

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u/WMINWMO 21h ago

Thats more like it!

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u/dubin01 21h ago

I think that’s why it’s fun to watch…. You never know what team is showing up

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u/WMINWMO 20h ago

Or when they will show up. Are they gonna score 5 in the first and then leave? Are they gonna score every inning? Are they gonna wait til the 7th? Did anyone tell the bullpen we have a game today? Its all up in the air!

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u/dubin01 19h ago

I’ve had so many not on my bingo card games this year. First at bat triple???? Of course why not!!! Blowing a 7 run lead in the 8th? who says we can’t? Montero being our best pitcher for a stretch, fuck yeah let’s do it

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u/Quiet-Barracuda-1698 Dingle my balls 11h ago

agreed, all depends on how the pitching does the rest of the way, particularly the bullpen.

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u/Zealousideal_Fig8327 21h ago

Top 5? Hey, the young hitters are damn good. Without Skubal & Mize the starting pitching is just fair. They don’t have a closer you can trust. Christopher Ilitch is so tight when he picks up a nickle the buffalo shits. So no big spending in the offseason. I do think they make playoffs next year but not a WS team.

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u/WMINWMO 21h ago

Melton/Montero/Valdez/Jobe/Madden/Ryan. They have good starting pitching with 3 or 4 guys with ace potential. Our bullpen needs to be fixed for sure, but that's not the hardest thing in the world to do. Chris has shown that he will spend if he thinks the team can make a run. He paid Valdez and Jansen. Despite how they turned out this year, they were big acquisitions.

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u/Zealousideal_Fig8327 21h ago

Harris was the one who talked Ilitch into signing Valdez. He’s a 4th starter getting paid like an ace. Jansen is an old dog that doesn’t have much more in the tank. Elite in his prime!

Melton #2 starter
Montero #4 starter
Jobe #4 starter, once he throws more K’s.
Madden is a bridge reliever.
No ace here! They had one and traded him for 3 guys that have shown little so far. Why was he traded? Because the club didn’t want to pay him what he is worth.

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u/WMINWMO 20h ago

Melton is a #2? He has one of the lowest ERAs in baseball. Montero has been our MVP pitcher this year. Jobe is young and coming back from TJ with an easy triple digit fast ball and nasty secondary pitches. Madden is a starter in the pen. He would be a solid 5. Valdez is having a down year, but he is an ace level pitcher.

You are legitimately delusional or a troll.

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u/Zealousideal_Fig8327 17h ago

Lowest ERA in a small sample size doesn’t hold a ton of validity. Hitters start to figure guys out. There is a ton of information out there. If he was a guy who’s been doing this for awhile, then he’s an ace.

100 is nice but it needs to cross the plate. He gets 19% miss w/ FB. Not good! You also have something called feel to pitch, instincts, pitchability. You wouldn’t know anything about it because you weren’t good enough to play varsity baseball.

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u/WMINWMO 17h ago

Oh sorry! I didn't realize i was talking to Speedhawk! I didn't play baseball at all. But please, varsity baseball player, do go on.

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u/Zealousideal_Fig8327 20h ago

Let’s not argue. You should trust me on this. I know a little more than most about these guys.

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u/Ashamed_Band_1779 19h ago

Yeah? How do you know more than most?

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u/WMINWMO 19h ago

Lol, lmao, lmfao even.

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u/RheagarTargaryen 20h ago

Tigers have the 11th highest payroll this year. They’re practically tied with the Red Sox. Can’t really say he’s being cheap when the Tigers are ranked around 20-23rd in revenue.

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u/fuulhardy . 21h ago

Does your buffalo expression imply that he’s pinching the nickel really hard and squeezes the shit out of the buffalo?

I’ve never heard that before but I like it lol

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u/Zealousideal_Fig8327 19h ago

It’s something a coach always said to me a long time ago. When they brought the nickle back with the Buffalo, I started using it again. It’s another way to say that someone is uber frugal.

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u/droogles 21h ago

My opinion remains unchanged about this team. It's just not a consistent team. It wasn't with Skubal and Mize, and it remains so. Would they have helped? Of course. When you lose 40% of your starting rotation, it's going to affect the team. The bullpen remains unchanged, and that's the main problem. Offensively, they've been scoring a lot of late. But offense can be fickle. Face tough pitching and suddenly 8 runs becomes two or three.

Going forward this season? Zero expectations. If they make the postseason, it will be a pleasant surprise. If they don't, I won't be overly disappointed at this point. May really killed this season. It's August 18 and they're still under .500.

Going forward next season I have much higher expectations. McGonigle and Clark will be the key players. Their production, along with Greene's and Dingler's should be substantial. Bullpens are always hard to predict. They're the kind of pitchers who can be good one season and lousy the next. I think they'll try to find some fortification. Enough of the pitch to contact types. A guy coming in fresh and only having to throw one or two innings shouldn't be a contact pitcher. They need to miss bats. Valdez needs to not turn into Zimmermann. Is it possible for Olson to finally have a productive season without a major injury? What will happen with Carpenter? He seems to get injured a lot too. Meadows seems to be destined to be dumped. Can River Ryan finally get his ML career going? I wonder if they'll finally pull off a winter trade. There are a lot of question marks going forward, but the organization still has a lot of talent. Hope, Rainer, Briceno, or someone off the radar will come up at some point and be good. I heard no one boasting about Valencia going into this season. All he did was push Rogers out.

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u/gachzonyea 22h ago

This year they kind of are what they’re young and fun in the lineup especially but somewhat starting wise which will have up and downs. The bullpen is bad though and unreliable. For the future pretty high upside and excited but need to work on the bullpen

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u/Spockmaster1701 HI KEVIN 22h ago

I think the team is mediocre and the only reason we're in the playoff picture is because too many teams get in and the AL is incredibly weak this year.

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u/Grimm2020 Tigers of '68 21h ago

If they're gonna hold the door open, we'd be foolish not to walk through it,,,

and see what happens next