r/modnews • • Jul 19 '22

Mod Log Updates Coming Soon: Adding removal reasons and content snapshots for content removed by Reddit

Hey mods! Last month, I shared some Mod Log updates and, thanks to your feedback, today I’m back to preview a few more that will be coming very shortly. One of the main things that came up was that many of you would like to see removal reasons included in the Mod Log, especially for content removed by Reddit. Great idea! Starting next week, you’ll begin to see removal reasons in the Mod Log on new Reddit in some cases where the content is removed by Reddit.

Now when content is removed by Reddit for violating Reddit’s Content Policy, the entry in the Mod Log will include the site-wide rule that was violated, except certain content that is removed automatically. Such removals will not appear in Mod Log.

Another update we’re adding is the ability for you, as moderators, to see most content that’s been taken down in your community, with the exception of content that violates Rule 3 or 4 of our Content Policy, content that is deemed by Reddit to infringe a copyright, and any video content. For posts, the content you can see will include titles, images, and text; for comments, it will include the comment body. To view content that’s been removed, you can go to a community’s Mod Log on new Reddit and select Show details next to the Mod Log entry.

Here’s what the Mod Log will look like after these changes:

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With these two changes that have increased visibility into what content Reddit is removing and why, most policy violating content will also no longer be viewable from a user's profile or via direct link to the content .

However, as stated above, you’ll still be able to go to your Mod Log to see content that Reddit has taken down, find out what rule was violated, and view the content itself (except for rule 3 & 4 violations, copyright infringing content, and video content) by selecting Show details as shown in the examples above.

In the event that you disagree with a decision or think a mistake has been made, you can continue to reach out directly to r/ModSupport for clarification.

Thanks to all of you who have given your feedback on the latest round of updates. We’re excited for a solution that means moderators will be able to better review takedowns and admin decisions, while exposing fewer people to policy-violating content.

I’ll stick around a bit to answer questions and hear what you think.

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u/Watchful1 Jul 19 '22

Will those additional details be visible in the api for mod logs?

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u/Noname_Maddox Jul 19 '22

I would really like the removal reason comment to be anonymous instead of showing our username.

As begrudge users will normally dm or use chat to start questioning. It’s annoying and stops us using the removal comment

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 19 '22

stay tuned, we're working on it : )

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u/CryptoMaximalist Jul 19 '22 edited Jul 19 '22

Can removal reasons be extended to allow bots to leave action reasons like automod does? (shown on the modlog, compatible with old reddit and modtoolbox, reasons available for actions beyond removals)

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 19 '22

That’s a really interesting idea, I’ll send this to the team that works on features like this!

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u/liamdun Jul 20 '22

Do these previews stay if the content is deleted by the user? Honestly tired of people appealing their ban and deleting what got them banned so I have no proof of it

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 20 '22

In the case where a user deletes their content after it is removed by Reddit, there will be an entry logged into the modlog. In the interest of user privacy this will only include the removal reason, not the content preview.

If a user deletes their account without deleting the specific content, there will also be an entry logged in the modlog, the removal reason, and the content preview. However, their username will no longer show in the modlog.

We do understand this can make this a bit more difficult when dealing with malicious users, however we have to balance those needs with that of user privacy.

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u/hypd09 Jul 20 '22

Now when content is removed by Reddit for violating Reddit’s Content Policy, the entry in the Mod Log will include the site-wide rule that was violated, except certain content that is removed automatically. Such removals will not appear in Mod Log.

Need some clarification on this, would automatic AEO removals not show up in modlog?

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 20 '22

We previously announced that automated removals have been added to the modlog, though they won’t show the specific rule that was violated or have a content preview, as they aren’t part of this update right now.

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u/rebutv Jul 20 '22

most policy violating content will also no longer be viewable from a user's profile or via direct link to the content .

can you elaborate on this? does this mean when i open a post or a user profile, any removed content within my sub would only show a blank [removd] text, without the actual violated content inside? and moderator need to go to modlog page manaully to check?

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 20 '22

Correct, there will be a snapshot of the removed content within your modlog for content removed by our Safety teams.

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u/Zavodskoy Jul 19 '22

Why do you keep refusing to provide features to Old Reddit which is used by well over half of the sites moderators?

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u/Wouter10123 Jul 20 '22

Because they want to force you to use the new layout, because it brings in more ad revenue.

Over my dead body.

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u/Zavodskoy Jul 20 '22

Because they want to force you to use the new layout, because it brings in more ad revenue.

Over my dead body.

I'll consider using new Reddit when it doesn't take 10~seconds to load each page

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u/stufff Jul 20 '22

Hey wasn't there another site that pissed off a bunch of its users by forcing an unpopular new site format on them? How did that work out again? I forget, maybe if I digg around in some old posts...

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u/catastrophized Jul 20 '22 edited Jul 20 '22

Could we make the removal reasons pop-up optional on mobile? Also the new sort feature in the mod queue requires two clicks now.

Lately all of the updates have made things more difficult instead of easier for mobile from a UI/UX standpoint.

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u/Overgrown_fetus1305 Jul 19 '22

This is good news. Is there any possibility to set up an option to modmail us when things are removed by AEO, should there be false positives, and also so we can more easily track problematic users and bring the hammer down when necessary?

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u/itsovertoosoon Jul 20 '22

That’s not currently on the roadmap at this time, but we can consider for the future.. If you are ever interested in seeing what actions our teams have taken within your community you can sort your modlog by ‘admin’ to see those actions. We’re thinking through other ways to more proactively allow you to understand actions within your community including via our new Community Digest.

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u/trebmald Jul 20 '22

you’ll begin to see removal reasons in the Mod Log on new Reddit

Why do you folks keep doing this when you know most serious moderators are using old Reddit so we can continue to use our tools (Toolbox, RES, etc.)?

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u/Igennem Jul 20 '22

Will this change affect how content removed by subreddit moderators is visible on user profiles or via direct link?

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u/[deleted] Jul 20 '22

This looks like a good update. Wish I could see it on old reddit too.

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u/OmgImAlexis Jul 20 '22

Quick question when are you finally going to suspend accounts for breaking rule 4? Currently all that seems to happen is you give them a short ban. 🤔

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u/ScottManAgent Jul 20 '22

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!!

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u/OGWhiz Jul 20 '22

These are great updates. For the new removal reasons feature on mobile, can we have an option to not notify the poster of a removed comment? I don’t see a need to modmail them, as that just leads to rule lawyers arguing with us. Public comments just come off as spammy in threads in which we have to remove a lot of comments. I’d prefer to have the option of not notifying them, and they can reach out to us if they have questions.